The CardBoard
How many wake up calls does this team need? - Printable Version

+- The CardBoard (https://thecardboard.org/board)
+-- Forum: C-House! (https://thecardboard.org/board/forum-4.html)
+--- Forum: The CardBoard (https://thecardboard.org/board/forum-5.html)
+--- Thread: How many wake up calls does this team need? (/thread-4128.html)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - Robbie - 11-04-2012

(11-04-2012, 04:05 AM)Rando90 link Wrote:[quote author=optimistic link=topic=6762.msg51308#msg51308 date=1351986238]
[quote author=johnnyo53 link=topic=6762.msg51305#msg51305 date=1351984010]
That's hilarious.  You really think Shaw is the QB whisperer?  And we've blown a BCS shot with losses to two teams we should've beaten because Hogan was his master plan?  I've heard it all now.  So, when Shaw said, "we're 4-5 games away from being the team we should be" he was thinking Hogan all along?  You're nucking futs.  ROTFLMFAO

I can't speak for everyone, but I doubt I'm the only one who is tired of posts like this. I think your tone may be suited for a different board.
[/quote]

You can speak for me. Can I put this guy on ignore? Or can we ban him? Tired of reading caps. Tired of reading the same posts over and over again. Tired of the tone in his posts.
[/quote]

I'm not a big fan of banning. I'm not a big fan of his posting style. But I am a fan of his being a part of and knowledgable about Stanford football and its history in ways that the test of us only dream about.

My guess is that he will develop to be comfortable with the relatively irenic tone of The Cardboard, or he will choose to stop participating.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - Kathy - 11-04-2012

The board isn't a nanny state. You can ignore his posts on your own. No one is forcing you to read John's comments.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - Kathy - 11-04-2012

The board isn't a nanny state. You can ignore his posts on your own. No one is forcing you to read John's comments.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - JohnR34231 - 11-04-2012

I don't have a problem with johnnyo being here.

As he has pointed out in other forums he is what he is. People who feel annoyed or uncomfortable with his posts and posting style should just not read him.

I hope no one is expecting him to morph into Mother Teresa though. Because that isn't going to happen.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - JohnR34231 - 11-04-2012

I don't have a problem with johnnyo being here.

As he has pointed out in other forums he is what he is. People who feel annoyed or uncomfortable with his posts and posting style should just not read him.

I hope no one is expecting him to morph into Mother Teresa though. Because that isn't going to happen.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - shinsengumi - 11-04-2012

(11-04-2012, 04:05 AM)Rando90 link Wrote:[quote author=optimistic link=topic=6762.msg51308#msg51308 date=1351986238]
[quote author=johnnyo53 link=topic=6762.msg51305#msg51305 date=1351984010]
That's hilarious.  You really think Shaw is the QB whisperer?  And we've blown a BCS shot with losses to two teams we should've beaten because Hogan was his master plan?  I've heard it all now.  So, when Shaw said, "we're 4-5 games away from being the team we should be" he was thinking Hogan all along?  You're nucking futs.  ROTFLMFAO

I can't speak for everyone, but I doubt I'm the only one who is tired of posts like this. I think your tone may be suited for a different board.
[/quote]

You can speak for me. Can I put this guy on ignore? Or can we ban him? Tired of reading caps. Tired of reading the same posts over and over again. Tired of the tone in his posts.
[/quote]

I've followed johnnyo53's shtick on the bootleg. He's got his coterie there and these guys managed to squeeze their own board from the mods (Thunderdome!). They occasionally post funny stuff, and like to think of themselves as football experts, but they most certainly aren't. Some of this guy's public proclamations:
1. Circa 2006: Idiotface is not the problem and should not be fired. No new coach can succeed at Stanford.
2. Circa 2007: I'm not gonna bother watching the USC game - let me know if they win by less than 50.
3. Circa 2008: Ron Lynn is a great, great coach (even though he's probably the least effective DC we've had under Harbaugh/Shaw regimes)
4. Circa 2009: Andrew Luck has a problem with his arm. He can't throw a deep ball.
5. Circa 2010: The Marecic experiment will fail.
6. Circa 2011: Stanford will win less than 8 games in 2011.

He has been p*ssed with the Shaw hire from day 1, and will stick to his guns no matter what happens on the field! Best just to treat this guy as an entertainer.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - shinsengumi - 11-04-2012

(11-04-2012, 04:05 AM)Rando90 link Wrote:[quote author=optimistic link=topic=6762.msg51308#msg51308 date=1351986238]
[quote author=johnnyo53 link=topic=6762.msg51305#msg51305 date=1351984010]
That's hilarious.  You really think Shaw is the QB whisperer?  And we've blown a BCS shot with losses to two teams we should've beaten because Hogan was his master plan?  I've heard it all now.  So, when Shaw said, "we're 4-5 games away from being the team we should be" he was thinking Hogan all along?  You're nucking futs.  ROTFLMFAO

I can't speak for everyone, but I doubt I'm the only one who is tired of posts like this. I think your tone may be suited for a different board.
[/quote]

You can speak for me. Can I put this guy on ignore? Or can we ban him? Tired of reading caps. Tired of reading the same posts over and over again. Tired of the tone in his posts.
[/quote]

I've followed johnnyo53's shtick on the bootleg. He's got his coterie there and these guys managed to squeeze their own board from the mods (Thunderdome!). They occasionally post funny stuff, and like to think of themselves as football experts, but they most certainly aren't. Some of this guy's public proclamations:
1. Circa 2006: Idiotface is not the problem and should not be fired. No new coach can succeed at Stanford.
2. Circa 2007: I'm not gonna bother watching the USC game - let me know if they win by less than 50.
3. Circa 2008: Ron Lynn is a great, great coach (even though he's probably the least effective DC we've had under Harbaugh/Shaw regimes)
4. Circa 2009: Andrew Luck has a problem with his arm. He can't throw a deep ball.
5. Circa 2010: The Marecic experiment will fail.
6. Circa 2011: Stanford will win less than 8 games in 2011.

He has been p*ssed with the Shaw hire from day 1, and will stick to his guns no matter what happens on the field! Best just to treat this guy as an entertainer.

Speaking of entertainment - JohnR34231 - 11-04-2012

It will be interesting to see johnnyo's response to Shinsengumi's post.

Just keep your wife and kids away from the computer when you are reading it. :)

Speaking of entertainment - JohnR34231 - 11-04-2012

It will be interesting to see johnnyo's response to Shinsengumi's post.

Just keep your wife and kids away from the computer when you are reading it. :)

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - Roberton3 - 11-04-2012

(11-04-2012, 08:03 AM)JPRI link Wrote:I don't have a problem with johnnyo being here.

As he has pointed out in other forums he is what he is. People who feel annoyed or uncomfortable with his posts and posting style should just not read him.

I hope no one is expecting him to morph into Mother Teresa though. Because that isn't going to happen.

Ignoring one angry, ranting, all-caps poster is easy, and not a big deal at all.  But sometimes having one poster like that gradually changes the tone for the whole board: it draws in more angry ranting posters, and makes people think that kind of behavior is acceptable.  I've seen formerly good discussion boards killed by that kind of thing.  I think that's unlikely here; this board has a strong community of thoughtful, relatively calm posters, and I doubt that'll fall apart.  But it's not impossible, and that possibility -- even though it's small -- worries me.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - Roberton3 - 11-04-2012

(11-04-2012, 08:03 AM)JPRI link Wrote:I don't have a problem with johnnyo being here.

As he has pointed out in other forums he is what he is. People who feel annoyed or uncomfortable with his posts and posting style should just not read him.

I hope no one is expecting him to morph into Mother Teresa though. Because that isn't going to happen.

Ignoring one angry, ranting, all-caps poster is easy, and not a big deal at all.  But sometimes having one poster like that gradually changes the tone for the whole board: it draws in more angry ranting posters, and makes people think that kind of behavior is acceptable.  I've seen formerly good discussion boards killed by that kind of thing.  I think that's unlikely here; this board has a strong community of thoughtful, relatively calm posters, and I doubt that'll fall apart.  But it's not impossible, and that possibility -- even though it's small -- worries me.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - Roberton3 - 11-04-2012

(11-04-2012, 08:04 AM)shinsengumi link Wrote:He has been p*ssed with the Shaw hire from day 1, and will stick to his guns no matter what happens on the field! Best just to treat this guy as an entertainer.

It'd be a lot easier to treat him as an entertainer if his posts were at least mildly entertaining.  They're not.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - Roberton3 - 11-04-2012

(11-04-2012, 08:04 AM)shinsengumi link Wrote:He has been p*ssed with the Shaw hire from day 1, and will stick to his guns no matter what happens on the field! Best just to treat this guy as an entertainer.

It'd be a lot easier to treat him as an entertainer if his posts were at least mildly entertaining.  They're not.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - fullmetal - 11-04-2012

Among all of us, johnnyo alone has earned the greatest right to hold the football program to an exacting standard.  None of you, unless you've successfully concealed your past as a Stanford football letterman, will get that.

And also, it's fine to have been wrong in the past.  Past performance is not an indication of future performance, as they say.  There's one way to not ever be wrong and that's to never speak your opinion.  I'm happy to read opinions of all kinds whether I agree with them or not.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need? - fullmetal - 11-04-2012

Among all of us, johnnyo alone has earned the greatest right to hold the football program to an exacting standard.  None of you, unless you've successfully concealed your past as a Stanford football letterman, will get that.

And also, it's fine to have been wrong in the past.  Past performance is not an indication of future performance, as they say.  There's one way to not ever be wrong and that's to never speak your opinion.  I'm happy to read opinions of all kinds whether I agree with them or not.

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need?IM NOT - JohnOlenchalk - 11-04-2012

ALWAYS RIGHT, BUT IM NEVER WRONG! How's that for irony?  The biggest problem most people have with my posts, is the content, not the tone.  The tone is pure schtick, and for the most part, I don't hammer it here.  At  T-Dome, I've even hosted lunches, and invited my board adversaries to my tailgate, and turned them into friends or at least respected board critics.  Shinsengumi's obviously avoided those entreaties. I'll be happy to go through Shinsengumi's critique, point by point, but it's obvious the subtleties of context were lost on him at the times, if not an outright misunderstanding of what I was trying to incite, ignite, contest, or explain. You've got a nice board here, pretty civil, some good insights, some overly simplistic or just naive, just like any other. But you're pro Stanford football, and that's what counts. Thanks for the kind words, as Dr Evil said, "the details of my life are quite inconsequential".  I challenge orthodoxies I find absurd in the context of being a fan, promoter, and critic of Stanford football.  I like David Shaw, respect him personally and professionally, but I'm as hard on him as I was on Harbs, BOWLSBY, Leland, etchemendi, Hennessy, players,assistant coaches, crosswalk attendants, you name it.  Supporting something doesn't mean you've got to go along with every nuance, policy, personnel decision or scheme.  I've got the mental toughness to take beating, verbal or otherwise, and get off the floor and keep coming.  And a little secret, nobody who's in the business of coaching pays any attention to our blather anyway...they don't have the time, and aren't going to learn anything from us anyway.  It will be interesting to see if Shaw quits parsing himself and fully invests the offense in Hogan.  I don't see any other choice, he MOVED the team.  Yes, it wasn't a great test in terms of opposition, but Nunes was, well, Nunes against them.  Hogan's throwing mechanics must improve, but at least he's decisive and makes things happen, he's a playmaker, not a game manager, and that's what we need now, the rest will come with time. Both Shaw and Harbs, three of the last 4 years, have asked me to come work with long snappers at their summer specialists camps at Stanford.  I donate the time, and refuse the stipend.  If you really think my opinions or bombast are so negative or harmful, don't you think they'd have cut that relationship?  Really, none of this stuff is worth wadding your panties over.  If I've offended some of you, I'm sorry, I apologize, and tough sh*t, you can't play the game without getting your uniform dirty, IT'LL PROBABLY HAPPEN AGAIN.  I'll keep it real, and try to refrain from the all caps, ad hominems, invective, and locker room references.  Now, Shihtzu or whatever your name is, what would you like to discuss first? (Note ironic juxtapositioning next to "apology").

Re: How many wake up calls does this team need?IM NOT - JohnOlenchalk - 11-04-2012

ALWAYS RIGHT, BUT IM NEVER WRONG! How's that for irony?  The biggest problem most people have with my posts, is the content, not the tone.  The tone is pure schtick, and for the most part, I don't hammer it here.  At  T-Dome, I've even hosted lunches, and invited my board adversaries to my tailgate, and turned them into friends or at least respected board critics.  Shinsengumi's obviously avoided those entreaties. I'll be happy to go through Shinsengumi's critique, point by point, but it's obvious the subtleties of context were lost on him at the times, if not an outright misunderstanding of what I was trying to incite, ignite, contest, or explain. You've got a nice board here, pretty civil, some good insights, some overly simplistic or just naive, just like any other. But you're pro Stanford football, and that's what counts. Thanks for the kind words, as Dr Evil said, "the details of my life are quite inconsequential".  I challenge orthodoxies I find absurd in the context of being a fan, promoter, and critic of Stanford football.  I like David Shaw, respect him personally and professionally, but I'm as hard on him as I was on Harbs, BOWLSBY, Leland, etchemendi, Hennessy, players,assistant coaches, crosswalk attendants, you name it.  Supporting something doesn't mean you've got to go along with every nuance, policy, personnel decision or scheme.  I've got the mental toughness to take beating, verbal or otherwise, and get off the floor and keep coming.  And a little secret, nobody who's in the business of coaching pays any attention to our blather anyway...they don't have the time, and aren't going to learn anything from us anyway.  It will be interesting to see if Shaw quits parsing himself and fully invests the offense in Hogan.  I don't see any other choice, he MOVED the team.  Yes, it wasn't a great test in terms of opposition, but Nunes was, well, Nunes against them.  Hogan's throwing mechanics must improve, but at least he's decisive and makes things happen, he's a playmaker, not a game manager, and that's what we need now, the rest will come with time. Both Shaw and Harbs, three of the last 4 years, have asked me to come work with long snappers at their summer specialists camps at Stanford.  I donate the time, and refuse the stipend.  If you really think my opinions or bombast are so negative or harmful, don't you think they'd have cut that relationship?  Really, none of this stuff is worth wadding your panties over.  If I've offended some of you, I'm sorry, I apologize, and tough sh*t, you can't play the game without getting your uniform dirty, IT'LL PROBABLY HAPPEN AGAIN.  I'll keep it real, and try to refrain from the all caps, ad hominems, invective, and locker room references.  Now, Shihtzu or whatever your name is, what would you like to discuss first? (Note ironic juxtapositioning next to "apology").