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Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - Renaissance Man - 10-05-2015
From his "Grading the Week" blog for C.al
"*** Couldnt help but notice the crowd: 42,042. For an undefeated team. On Homecoming.
What in the world "
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - FarmBoy - 10-05-2015
All I heard from Ca'l fans the last 5 years was that if THEY had a good team, they'd be filling the stands, SRO.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - washingtonismoney - 10-05-2015
Wilner ranges from harsh-but-fair to trollish in his Stanford assessment: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2015/10/05/stanford-football-grading-the-week-64/
Because I feel like being grumpy, here's the objectionable part:
Quote:Without quarterback Anu Solomon and Scooby Wright and others, Arizona was completely overmatched.
Anything closer than three or four touchdowns would have been a surprise.
... If it was such a surprise, why did the spread get bet down from -17.5 to -10? I'm not saying you have to take the gambling public's views as gospel, but you should at least account for it.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - Roberton3 - 10-05-2015
(10-05-2015, 12:11 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Wilner ranges from harsh-but-fair to trollish in his Stanford assessment: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2015/10/05/stanford-football-grading-the-week-64/
Because I feel like being grumpy, here's the objectionable part:
Quote:Without quarterback Anu Solomon and Scooby Wright and others, Arizona was completely overmatched.
Anything closer than three or four touchdowns would have been a surprise.
... If it was such a surprise, why did the spread get bet down from -17.5 to -10? I'm not saying you have to take the gambling public's views as gospel, but you should at least account for it.
In Wilner's defense (a phrase you won't hear very often from me), in his Pac-12 Picks of the Week he picked Stanford, giving 17.5 points. So he's being consistent.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - BostonCard - 10-05-2015
Quote:Then again: Are there any top-notch defenses on the Cardinal schedule?
UCLA might be if healthy, but the Bruins are missing three starters.
Washington? Nope.
Umm, maybe not "elite", but Washington has a top-30 total defense (#13 if you go by yards/play) and a #17 scoring defense.
They are going to be the second best defense we face all year.
BC
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - fullmetal - 10-05-2015
Two performances define Washington's defense thus far this year--giving up 16 pts to Boise St. (in a loss), and giving up 30 pts to kal (in a loss). Is BSU that good? But "holding" kal to "only" 30 pts...okay, maybe the Huskies have something going on there. Is the reunion game a trap game?
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - French Rage - 10-05-2015
(10-05-2015, 04:29 PM)fullmetal link Wrote:Two performances define Washington's defense thus far this year--giving up 16 pts to Boise St. (in a loss), and giving up 30 pts to kal (in a loss). Is BSU that good? But "holding" kal to "only" 30 pts...okay, maybe the Huskies have something going on there. Is the reunion game a trap game?
Certainly never good to overlook anyone, especially a team that always seems amp-ed to play us. I would hope having a 9 day rest would give the team enough time to concentrate, though.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - CTcard - 10-05-2015
(10-05-2015, 02:49 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Umm, maybe not "elite", but Washington has a top-30 total defense (#13 if you go by yards/play) and a #17 scoring defense.
They are going to be the second best defense we face all year.
Well, I am not yet convinced UW has a better defense than und. They're close in overall raw stats. We'll see how things play out.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - winflop - 10-05-2015
(10-05-2015, 12:11 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:why did the spread get bet down from -17.5 to -10? I'm not saying you have to take the gambling public's views as gospel, but you should at least account for it.
Movement of the line has much more to do with where the money is being bet than what it "should" be.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - CornFed - 10-05-2015
But the bettors are, on balance, attempting to estimate what the score should be.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - washingtonismoney - 10-05-2015
(10-05-2015, 07:02 PM)CornFed link Wrote:But the bettors are, on balance, attempting to estimate what the score should be.
Leave it to the guy with the Milton Friedman quote to understand the relevance of the efficient market hypothesis here.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - CornFed - 10-05-2015
(10-05-2015, 07:08 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:[quote author=CornFed link=topic=13053.msg132938#msg132938 date=1444096951]
But the bettors are, on balance, attempting to estimate what the score should be.
Leave it to the guy with the Milton Friedman quote to understand the relevance of the efficient market hypothesis here.
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OTOH, I would have to admit that I have had what in retrospect would have to be called a free lunch.
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - BostonCard - 10-08-2015
Wilner keeps trolling the Bears:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2015/10/06/pac-12-football-power-ratings-utah-remains-on-top-shuffling-elsewhere/
He has them as #7 in his power rankings, behind two 2-loss teams (Oregon and ASU).
BC
Re: Wilner wrote this for the Cardboard - stupac2 - 10-08-2015
(10-08-2015, 01:29 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Wilner keeps trolling the 59ers:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2015/10/06/pac-12-football-power-ratings-utah-remains-on-top-shuffling-elsewhere/
He has them as #7 in his power rankings, behind two 2-loss teams (Oregon and ASU).
BC
I wouldn't be surprised if Wilner considered Oregon getting creamed by Utah a better result than Cal squeaking past WSU.