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coaching staff changes already under Helton - ChicagoCard - 12-06-2015

Thought this could be a new thread. Defensive coordinator Wilcox and several other coaches are out at S,C,
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Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - BostonCard - 12-06-2015

LOL.  How do you miss McCaffrey.

And yes, Wilcox is confirmed out:

https://twitter.com/LindseyThiry/status/673659554937237504

BC

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 12-06-2015

(12-06-2015, 06:01 PM)ChicagoVisitor link Wrote:[tweet]673658557485735937[/tweet]

Not a good look

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - dabigv13 - 12-06-2015

Impossible to prove the veracity of that. Wouldn't be suprised if it was Stalinist style smear job to justify his firing.

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - Oasis - 12-06-2015

The unintended best comedy on radio is the USC post-game call-in show, which pretty much had poor Coach Wilcox at the bottom of Santa Monica Bay last night.

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - Farm93 - 12-06-2015

(12-06-2015, 06:01 PM)ChicagoVisitor link Wrote:[tweet]673658557485735937[/tweet]
There were 4 or 5 players too busy doing crowd leading jumping jacks to actually know what they were supposed to do on that play.

Moments before the snap the two players in the ILB positions switched places while maintaining their pre-snap aerobics routine.  My guess is one or the other got caught up in the moment and forgot to take the RB coming out of the backfield.  However, it seemed crazy that either one was actually going to cover CMac coming out of the backfield.

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - Hurlburt88 - 12-06-2015

As has previously been discussed, they also didn't account for McCaffrey too well on that 28 yard TD pass

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - BostonCard - 12-06-2015

(12-06-2015, 07:30 PM)hurlburt88 link Wrote:As has previously been discussed, they also didn't account for McCaffrey too well on that 28 yard TD pass

And then there was accounting for Hogan on his TD reception...

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Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - washingtonismoney - 12-06-2015

Well, aside from the missed/covered assignments, there's the whole defensive strategy -- as spectacularly ill-conceived as I've ever seen. Every time we set up in shotgun SC left the box with six or seven defenders. Their safeties played deep. Sometimes they spread their defenders way wide horizontally, as if we were Oregon or something, with dangerous bubble screen threats.

Combine that with the Stanford OL's dominance, and we just gashed them all game from runs out of the shotgun. Even Remound Wright got in the action.

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - rudruff - 12-06-2015

I remember how impressed I was with Wilcox the first year he was the Washington DC and they played Stanford. Worried that he had things figured out against us. Not sad to see him go.

SC now has a chance to screw things up again.

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - stupac2 - 12-06-2015

(12-06-2015, 08:58 PM)rudruff link Wrote:SC now has a chance to screw things up again.

Or to get it right.

Then again, I'm really unimpressed with Helton. Did anyone else notice that he made a complete hash of their second-half timeouts? I don't remember what they did with their first, but IIRC it was something like our traditional TO to avoid delay of game. Then he threw away one on that pointless challenge of the strip-sack, which I guess isn't a terrible use because it was such a big play, but it was utterly futile since that was so obviously the right call and the booth had plenty of time to look at it if they wanted to. The last one was taken during a USC injury timeout, after we'd already run down the playclock a bunch, so not even a good use of one on defense. It obviously didn't make a difference in the game, but this is something that's not hard to get close to right and he completely botched it. Not a good sign IMO.

Well, not good for USC, pretty good for us.

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - BostonCard - 12-06-2015

By the way, the P12 championship loser is 0-4 in their subsequent bowl game.  If Helton continues the trend, then the Helton era will have started out 0-2.

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I wonder if Haden's health problems factored into this - Redrum - 12-06-2015

Not a well man, or at least a guy with some health challenges.  I wonder if Helton got a boost because he was already in place and, at the time, functioning well.  Looked good at the time?

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - DC - 12-06-2015

(12-06-2015, 09:23 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:By the way, the P12 championship loser is 0-4 in their subsequent bowl game.  If Helton continues the trend, then the Helton era will have started out 0-2.

BC

Noted.  And they start out with Alabama next season.  On the SC boards they are talking about the possibility of the Helton era starting out 0-3.  ;D

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - French Rage - 12-06-2015

(12-06-2015, 09:13 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:[quote author=rudruff link=topic=13954.msg146436#msg146436 date=1449460719]SC now has a chance to screw things up again.

Or to get it right.

Then again, I'm really unimpressed with Helton. Did anyone else notice that he made a complete hash of their second-half timeouts? I don't remember what they did with their first, but IIRC it was something like our traditional TO to avoid delay of game. Then he threw away one on that pointless challenge of the strip-sack, which I guess isn't a terrible use because it was such a big play, but it was utterly futile since that was so obviously the right call and the booth had plenty of time to look at it if they wanted to. The last one was taken during a Unbelievably Spoiled Children injury timeout, after we'd already run down the playclock a bunch, so not even a good use of one on defense. It obviously didn't make a difference in the game, but this is something that's not hard to get close to right and he completely botched it. Not a good sign IMO.

Well, not good for Unbelievably Spoiled Children, pretty good for us.
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Yeah, there was a lot of talk about that in my section when they went for the challenge.  To be down to one TO and coming from behind was not a good situation for them.

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - CowboyIndian - 12-06-2015

(12-06-2015, 08:58 PM)rudruff link Wrote:I remember how impressed I was with Wilcox the first year he was the Washington DC....

Capital, sir, capital!

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - akCard - 12-07-2015

(12-06-2015, 06:51 PM)dabigv link Wrote:Impossible to prove the veracity of that. Wouldn't be suprised if it was Stalinist style smear job to justify his firing.

Dunno 'bout that. I lost track of the tweet but a conference PR flack tweeted mid-game that the cursing coming from the SC coaches box (presumably that's where Wilcox was) during the game was getting so loud and constant that it was "the best thing ever."



EDIT: I should say that I was basking in the after-game euphoria and was zipping around the interwebs reading the early, early stories about the game. On the LA Times site, I saw a posted comment which mentioned that an SC AD employee warned the SC coaching staff that their cursing could be clearly heard in other press boxes.

Aaaaaand I just found the tweet: https://twitter.com/jskarp/status/673335423792373760

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - ChicagoCard - 12-07-2015

I picked up on that too. There was also this tweet from Scott Wolf (LA Daily News)...
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And the same person tweets that Helton might hire his brother as offensive coordinator...
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Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - winflop - 12-07-2015

(12-06-2015, 11:06 PM)DC link Wrote:[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=13954.msg146448#msg146448 date=1449462238]
By the way, the P12 championship loser is 0-4 in their subsequent bowl game.  If Helton continues the trend, then the Helton era will have started out 0-2.

BC

Noted.  And they start out with Alabama next season.  On the SC boards they are talking about the possibility of the Helton era starting out 0-3.  ;D
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Hard for that to happen since the Helton era began 5-3 with the 3 losses all to Top 15 teams in this weeks CFPB poll

Re: coaching staff changes already under Helton - Leftcoast - 12-07-2015

USC lost their second time out on the reasonable Kessler fumble challenge.  How did they lose their first?