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MBB Commit - BostonCard - 10-26-2016

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/stanford-lands-german-forward-da-silva

6'9" 220 lb German.  Otherwise I don't know much about him.

BC

Re: MBB Commit - SamuelMcF - 10-26-2016

Quick article here, also includes some tape on him from an international U18 tournament earlier this year:
http://www.pacifictakes.com/2016/10/26/13427308/2017-german-forward-oscar-da-silva-commits-stanford

Same tape as above, if you'd rather not read fluff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPEShCradBk

Re: MBB Commit - washingtonismoney - 10-26-2016

FWIW the German Basketball Bund lists Oscar as a SF: http://www.basketball-bund.de/spieler/oscar-leon-silva

He also apparently plays for a team called MTSV Friendsfactory.

This blogger -- apparently a scouting service approved by the NCAA, if the site's twitter page is to be believed -- writes of da Silva:

Quote: Da Silva is not really a discovery but still wasn’t widely recognized few months before [this April tournament] He is like a living mismatch on the court. Too big for guards , too quick for forwards and too smart for equally athletic and versitale [sic] players. Da Silva was the most important contributor for unbeaten team beside Freudenberg and Mushidi. He provided great energy and ability to play above the rim. Young german finished tournament with the third best field-goal percentage – 69%.

http://newbasketballgeneration.com/tag/oscar-leon-da-silva/

EDIT: Da Silva's also a member of an "absolutely loaded" under-18 German national basketball team. He apparently had a "strong season" in Germany's youth basketball league and a "a strong all-around performance on the wing" in a European youth basketball tournament in August. http://www.fiba.com/news/germany-take-important-step-with-albert-schweitzer-tournament-victory

EDIT2: Another random blogger writes:

Quote:He’s definitely the prospect with the lowest level of technical and tactical development of the young German generation, but probably with one of the highest ceilings. He has an amazing structure on which to build up some muscle without losing agility and quickness, furthermore he already has a superb body control and balance. He has solid fundamentals and he’s definitely an effective rebounder for the role, but he definitely has to work on his confidence. His shot is promising and he seldom forces shot, usually being in control. Definitely a prospect to monitor and track. He closed the tournament with 7.0 points, 5.4 rebounds, 1.7 blocks, 69% FG in 19.3 minutes per game.

Said blogger also describes him as a small forward.

http://www.nbadraft.net/albert-schweitzer-tournament-top-prospects

Re: MBB Commit - BostonCard - 10-26-2016

Sounds generally good.  We did alright with Rosco Allen (not German but close), although obviously I wished he had stayed one more year.  I hope that Hasse is good at developing talent and that we get Da Silva to his high ceiling.

BC

Re: MBB Commit - Phogge - 10-26-2016

Read "Project."

Re: MBB Commit - OutsiderFan - 10-27-2016

"Project" is usually a term associated with post players who don't have great athleticism.  But to a degree, everyone is a project.  That said, DaSilva seems to be a superior athlete who plays above the rim.  I've never heard of a guy who plays above the rim called a "project."  The term usually used for a guy with great athleticism who maybe needs to develop his skills, is "raw, with a big upside." 

Re: MBB Commit - Bruce Wang - 10-27-2016

Glad to hear Haase is looking overseas.  I've believed for a long time that the Stanford brand would give us a significant advantage beyond our shores and borders.  I think we could beat Duke in recruiting head to head overseas.

Re: MBB Commit - CTcard - 10-27-2016

(10-27-2016, 06:05 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:"Project" is usually a term associated with post players who don't have great athleticism.  But to a degree, everyone is a project.  That said, DaSilva seems to be a superior athlete who plays above the rim.  I've never heard of a guy who plays above the rim called a "project."  The term usually used for a guy with great athleticism who maybe needs to develop his skills, is "raw, with a big upside." 


Hmmm.

That is not the way I have seen the term "project" used.

As I have seen the term used it refers to a guy who does not have well developed skills and on-the-court instincts and perhaps hasn't played the game very much but likely has superior athletic ability so that he might be able to become good if those skills are developed.

I would say, "raw, with a big upside" is a synonym, perhaps with a more positive connotation.


Re: MBB Commit - BobK - 10-27-2016

I don't gather raw or a project.  Lots of info about him on another board.  He is slim I gather.

If an American we would know a lot more.  An be more impressed.  Or do I'm told



RE Oscar Da Silva - coachr - 10-27-2016

Hello

I saw this link regarding Oscar Da Silva so I registered on CARD board and thought I would post something about Oscar. Back in the summer of 2014, Oscar, along with his German club team members, played in the FAB 48. After they played, they made the trip to the prestigious Snow Valley Basketball camp. I have been privileged to be part of that coaching fraternity and had the chance to draft Oscar for the week long camp. I thought he was the best all-around player at the camp as a freshman!!! He was a lanky 6'7' kid who could handle the ball, good mid range shot (off the pass), could rebound and was long, very long to change shots. He brought the ball up the floor in transition. I knew this kid could develop into a wonderful player. I had NO doubt in my mind that this kid play major D1 in the U.S. I think Stanford has themselves a hidden gem!!!!

Re: MBB Commit - Treebound - 10-27-2016

Thanks for signing up and posting this information, Coachr!  There are a few posters here that are a bit down on Stanford hoops at this time, given the slow and steady decline that the Dawkins regime brought to the program.  Your first hand knowledge is helpful and I'm optimistic that we have landed a "hidden gem" with this new recruit.  I too, think that Stanford can out recruit most/all other programs in Europe and I'm glad our new coach is mixing things up.    I haven't looked forward to our hoops season in some time, but I'm getting excited by what I see and hear of Coach H's impact. 

As for "project" - that can be used to describe the program as well.  All I care about is that we improve this year and develop the student athletes that we have.  Coach 'em up!

Re: MBB Commit - BobK - 10-27-2016

Thanks posting coach

Here's more

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/stanford-lands-german-forward-da-silva

Re: MBB Commit - fullmetal - 10-27-2016

coachr, welcome to the board (the captchas go away after ten posts), and please come by and share your insights!

Treebound is right--the whole program is a project, but we can only be optimistic that Haase will put together a rebuilt team.

Re: MBB Commit - Ratmandoo - 10-27-2016

(10-27-2016, 06:10 AM)Publius link Wrote:Glad to hear Haase is looking overseas.  I've believed for a long time that the Stanford brand would give us a significant advantage beyond our shores and borders.  I think we could beat Duke in recruiting head to head overseas.

But can the international athletes get into Stanford? Isn't this the problem we have with the Men's tennis team now? All the good NCAA men's tennis teams are stocked with international players who can't get into Stanford. Will this be any different in basketball?

Re: MBB Commit - BobK - 10-27-2016

Per many Stanford coaches ratmando nailed the problem. 

Re: MBB Commit - OutsiderFan - 10-28-2016

Is this drop-off in Stanford-eligible athletes because more and more kids in Europe and abroad are foregoing rigorous academic study to develop their sports skills? 

This seems to be the trend in the U.S.  Look at something like Prolific Prep in Napa.  It's a hoops development academy that offers kids schooling, but I'm not sure of its rigor.  It's got to prepare athletes for the UC system, but does it even offer AP level courses?

Re: MBB Commit - fullmetal - 10-28-2016

I don't know if international basketball players forgo college development in the USA at the same rate that they do in tennis--and yes, it's substantial.  A lot of tennis players hit the pro circuit right out of high school, but I'm not certain that the same is true for basketball players.

In any case, I sat in on a Dick Gould talk where, yep, he mentioned the prevalence of international athletes changing the landscape of college tennis.  Guess how many of them want to go through the Stanford admissions wringer?

Re: MBB Commit - BobK - 10-28-2016

Outsider Prolific Prep is not a school.  They offer no classes. The kids go to regular High schools in the area.  Last year several to Justin Siena a Napa private school with boarding

Re: MBB Commit - OutsiderFan - 10-28-2016

That's strange.  I thought I saw the PP website last year and read something about academics. Perhaps I missed that they don't offer classes. So it's essentially an AAU squad that plays high school teams?

Re: MBB Commit - BobK - 10-28-2016

They play travel. It's not a HS

Here learn more  :)

http://www.prolificprep.org/Schedule.html