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Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - Papa John - 11-10-2016

There hasn't been a lot of chatter about Men's BB. With the season upon us, I'm cautiously optimistic that Stanford will make it to postseason play this year, but I'm curious how others on this board are feeling. It will be interesting to revisit the poll after the season!

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - 2006alum - 11-10-2016

(11-10-2016, 11:28 AM)Papa John link Wrote:There hasn't been a lot of chatter about Men's BB. With the season upon us, I'm cautiously optimistic that Stanford will make it to postseason play this year, but I'm curious how others on this board are feeling. It will be interesting to revisit the poll after the season!

I feel like it's really hard to assess as yet. New coach, new approach, and while we return largely the same team, we lose our leading scorer and have two key players who sat out most or all of last season. I feel like it's realistic that we could either fail to make the NIT or make the first weekend of the NCAA. It just seems like a pretty noisy prediction until we see how Haase has reassembled our team.

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - JJJ - 11-10-2016

I'd have to watch at least the Harvard game tomorrow before I proffer an opinion. But I am excited for the season to begin!

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - BobK - 11-10-2016

Excited for the season but I'm with jjj

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - 2 for 2028 - 11-10-2016

If we don't make the sweet sixteen this year that will make three years in a row . . .  ??? 

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - Papa John - 11-10-2016

(11-10-2016, 04:55 PM)JJJ link Wrote:I'd have to watch at least the Harvard game tomorrow before I proffer an opinion.

Good point, JJJ. That's why I kept the poll open until November 30. Feel free to give it a couple of weeks!

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - burger - 11-11-2016

Has Haase said anything about the starting lineup?  Assuming that Cartwright is 100%, I'd like to see Travis-Humphrey-Sheffield-Pickens-Cartwright.  But I have no idea what Haase is thinking.  Any news?  A quick search didn't turn anything up.

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - washingtonismoney - 11-11-2016

Feels way too uncertain to make a really solid guess. I'm excited for Haase era in general but somehow surprised if this is an instant turnaround job.

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - fullmetal - 11-11-2016

What does it say about me that I'm not very optimistic about MBB but way optimistic about FB? 

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - CTcard - 11-11-2016

(11-11-2016, 02:22 PM)fullmetal link Wrote:What does it say about me that I'm not very optimistic about MBB but way optimistic about FB? 

That you have watched both teams for the past eight years?

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - SamuelMcF - 11-11-2016

CBS experts are pretty down on us:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/pac-12-expert-picks-what-you-need-to-know-arizona-to-challenge-oregon/

Not sure how much this means, but we were picked to finish no higher than 10th in the PAC-12.

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - winflop - 11-11-2016

(11-10-2016, 11:28 AM)Papa John link Wrote:There hasn't been a lot of chatter about Men's BB. With the season upon us, I'm cautiously optimistic that Stanford will make it to postseason play this year, but I'm curious how others on this board are feeling. It will be interesting to revisit the poll after the season!

Keeping an open mind but low expectations.  I did buy tickets for the first time in five years - a 3-pack for Arizona, Colorado, and CSU-East Bay (North Campus) aka Low APR U

I am more interested in the level of energy the team brings to the floor.  I wanna see some EUTM!!

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - scorecard - 11-11-2016

If the players are supposed to have EUTM, then I'm going to have some EUTM too. 

I anticipate that we will be surprised.  I'm going with top half of the Pac-12 finish.  Good coaching can go a long way.  The team already has great size/length, and I think the players have versatility that will be much better served with a decent system.  I think Dawkins was a good recruiter of talent, but he never seemed to be able to utilize that talent in a cohesive manner.  I already can see that Haase is going to be more vocal and animated than Dawkins (not hard), and I think that should translate to team effort.

We should be better on the defensive end, because anything has to be better than the coaching we had before.  We often played an absolutely porous zone with players doubling back to the post for no reason, and then chasing back to 3 point shooters without any kind of control.  This only worked against bad teams who couldn't shoot or penetrate.  Our rebounding should be better with Travis back.  We are very long with Humphrey and Sharma in the back. 

On offense, it will help to have Cartwright back, since we had so much trouble just bringing up the ball last year against teams that could pressure.  If we can get some 3 point shooting (Pickens can shoot, hopefully we'll get some consistency from Sheffield and Cartwright), we can be dangerous.   

I will be interested to see how much time Pugh and Stanback get -- I think Pugh will be an early contributor.

Maybe I'm crazy, we'll see tonight...

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - winflop - 11-12-2016

(11-11-2016, 06:50 PM)scorecard link Wrote:If the players are supposed to have EUTM, then I'm going to have some EUTM too.

Exactly.

Watched the game last night.  The good:
- Reid Travis is a complete beast
- Pretty obvious Cartwright should start
- Love how Pickens & Sheffield are developing but both have a ways to go
- Humphrey is a threat from anywhere on the floor

The not so good:
- Not even sure Sanders should be backing up Cartwright
- Humphrey has to stay on the floor - still too many bad fouls
- Clear they are still learning Haase's half-court O.  It was pretty sloppy

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - OutsiderFan - 11-12-2016

I think the mere fact Haase seems to be a very good coach puts Stanford in good position to make the NCAA tournament. 

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - Hurlburt88 - 11-12-2016

I watched this morning.  Both teams seemed a bit cold in terms of shooting . . . maybe jet-lag? 

Most impressive thing to me besides Reid TraBeast was defense.  some probably due to Harvard freshman showing inexperience, but I'll also give some credit. 

Expecting them to moderately exceed expectations this year! 

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - HisKneeWasDown - 11-12-2016

(11-12-2016, 09:51 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:I think the mere fact Haase seems to be a very good coach puts Stanford in good position to make the NCAA tournament. 

I hope you're right, but a tournament-bound team probably should have outplayed Harvard more than they did.

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - YellowRiver15 - 11-12-2016

Long time reader first time poster, but here's my 2 cents. I graduated in '15 and was at every game when I was on campus except when I studied abroad my junior year (aka the year that saved Dawkins), so I witnessed some pretty lifeless bball in my time on the Farm. Last night's game encouraged me, and I think they'll end up surprising some people and finishing better than 10th in the Pac 12. That said, the team is still clearly adjusting to the new system and while I obviously hope for a tourney bid I'm not banking my life savings on it. I pretty much agree with Winflop's assessment, but want to add that Grant played a great game off the bench. Our man defense could use some work and definitely gave up some wide open looks, but that's to be expected after spending so much time in the zone under JD. Hopefully that continues to improve along with the team. Not sure about you guys, but I'm actually excited about this year!

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - fullmetal - 11-13-2016

Ah, welcome YellowRiver15!  (The captchas go away after your first 10 posts.)

Haase has this team looking motivated and playing some good ball...I'm trying not to let one game get me too enthusiastic, but Muir seems to have found a guy here.  Haase, from Kansas, should know what a great program/dynasty looks like from the inside, and hopefully he's building that kind of program right now.

Re: Predictions for Stanford MBB 2016-17 Postseason - winflop - 11-14-2016

(11-12-2016, 05:59 PM)YellowRiver15 link Wrote:Long time reader first time poster, but here's my 2 cents. I graduated in '15 and was at every game when I was on campus except when I studied abroad my junior year (aka the year that saved Dawkins), so I witnessed some pretty lifeless bball in my time on the Farm. Last night's game encouraged me, and I think they'll end up surprising some people and finishing better than 10th in the Pac 12. That said, the team is still clearly adjusting to the new system and while I obviously hope for a tourney bid I'm not banking my life savings on it. I pretty much agree with Winflop's assessment, but want to add that Grant played a great game off the bench. Our man defense could use some work and definitely gave up some wide open looks, but that's to be expected after spending so much time in the zone under JD. Hopefully that continues to improve along with the team. Not sure about you guys, but I'm actually excited about this year!

Good point about Grant, of whom I have been critical in the past.  He shows signs of being a strong contributor off the bench.  The other thing I liked is the energy of the team, and I think a part of that comes from a coach with a very different demeanor.