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Better perspective from the Daily on "Listgate" - Leftcoast - 03-10-2011

You\'ll like this take better -  A Daily reporter who didn\'t frame the subject as a list of "Easy A\'s".   It\'s not the one the media is running with.

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2011/03/09/perspective-on-the-list/


Re: Better perspective from the Daily on - Leftcoast - 03-10-2011

Plus a "Letter from the Editor" and a request for a retraction from the professor who made the disability comparison:

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2011/03/10/letter-from-the-editor-story-on-list-of-courses/

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From the comments section of the Daily:

“Dear Ryan and Julie,

I want you to know that I was shocked and deeply offended in reading a news story in which you egregiously misquoted me. I must ask that you immediately retract your story, and notify all those who have quoted it of your error.

During the brief interview one of you had with me during my office hours, I explained that I, as other faculty, sometimes accommodate student-athletes’ off-campus competition schedules by arranging with the coaching staff for the proctoring of examinations. As I explained to you, we also do this for other students involved in certain types of extracurricular activities.

At no point during our brief conversation did I discuss the University’s policies towards providing reasonable accommodation for students with disabilities. Neither did I compare the accommodations provided for athletes to the accommodations provided for students with disabilities. It is for this reason that I request that you immediately retract your story, and publicly correct your error. Failure to do would, I believe, violate core ethical principles of journalism.

I am copying Mark Katches on this message. As the instructor in the course for which you wrote your story, I believe he shares in the responsibility for correcting the error.

As an additional concern, the student who interviewed me never raised the issue of the academic rigor of my course. Nevertheless the published article implies that course grading is lenient. I believe the academic rigor of the course is reflected in its selection by the University as meeting the General Education Requirement in Education for Citizenship/American Cultures. In addition, at the request of a national publisher, I have written a textbook covering the material covered in the course. That text is in use at colleges and universities throughout the country.

Donald Barr, MD, PhD
Associate Professor (Teaching), Department of Pediatrics”


Re: Better perspective from the Daily on "Listgate - washingtonismoney - 03-10-2011

Ever since the story came out, I wondered how so many Stanford students could work on the story without informing the Chronicle people (or whomever it was came up with this) that the idea was trash.

Well, now the stakes are raised.


Re: Better perspective from the Daily on "Listgate - fullmetal - 03-10-2011

I don\'t know how anyone at the Daily thought this was a good story to run.  Well, maybe the person didn\'t think about the fact that there is no boundary between the world and the Daily...and maybe the person doesn\'t know the average student-athlete.


Re: Better perspective from the Daily on "Listgate - Pastor - 03-10-2011

Perhaps someone closer to Stanford can answer this question.

Quote:coaching staff for the proctoring of examinations

When I was at Stanford, the honor code precluded proctors...has that changed?


Re: Better perspective from the Daily on "Listgate - Kathy - 03-10-2011

A more balanced view from Inside Higher Ed:

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/03/10/stanford_defends_courses_of_interest_list_for_athletes

and this tidbit that indicates the list has NOT been pulled, thereby knocking out the teeny bit of news value that gave the story legs:
Quote:[Stanford spokeswoman Lisa Lapin] took issue with the student news story\'s assertion that the practice of distributing this list to athletes had been discontinued. She said no formal action had occurred, but added that certain administrators felt that such a list might no longer be necessary, as students can search for courses which do not conflict with their athletic responsibilities on their own.



Re: Better perspective from the Daily on "Listgate - fullmetal - 03-10-2011

Quote:Perhaps someone closer to Stanford can answer this question.

Quote:coaching staff for the proctoring of examinations

When I was at Stanford, the honor code precluded proctors...has that changed?

It\'s better rephrased as the \'administration\' of exams while teams are traveling.  At least, that\'s the context from which I\'m assuming your phrase was taken...