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WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - winflop - 06-22-2017

Granted it's only one side of the story, but the way her issues were handled does not reflect well on Stanford. Muir had better get into this, and quickly. It looks like her medical issues were horribly mishandled.

http://www.hayleyhodson.com/blog

I wish Hayley well, hope she is able to improve her health and graduate. Her 40-year decision is still out there.

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - BobK - 06-22-2017

One should also read her instragram post for a fuller understanding.



Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - BostonCard - 06-22-2017

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVnKBbjAW_m/?taken-by=hhodson

Looks like Oxford next for Hodson.  Best of luck to her.  Big loss for Stanford, but her health has to come first, and if her concussive symptoms were that bad, she absolutely made the right decision.

BC

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - fullmetal - 06-22-2017

Her concussions should have been taken very seriously at Stanford :(  It's a loss for Stanford WVB, but Hodson has the whole world ahead of her now, and she should enjoy that.

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - CTcard - 06-22-2017

(06-22-2017, 05:01 AM)winflop link Wrote:Granted it's only one side of the story, but the way her issues were handled does not reflect well on Stanford. Muir had better get into this, and quickly. It looks like her medical issues were horribly mishandled.

While there are certainly some things described in that blog post that concern me about how Hodson's concussions were handled, based upon what I have learned about concussions from my physician wife and brother, and my own experiences with the problem; I would also note that it is difficult to know just what happened from that post and that nobody really knows how to handle concussions in a general, all-encompassing kind of way.

Stanford AD is certainly no stranger to concussion issues, and neither is any AD in the country. A bunch of Stanford's more high profile cases have been with the women's basketball team.
There's the current ongoing case of Anna Wilson:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2690875-with-big-brother-russells-help-anna-wilson-fights-for-her-basketball-career
There was Toni Kokenis who eventually retired:
http://www.stanforddaily.com/2014/05/23/a-serious-concussion-problem-in-athletics/
There was Jamie Carey who transferred to Texas so she could play:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/06/sports/college-basketball-concussions-are-just-part-of-game-for-longhorns-carey.html

The comments upon Stanford's actions run the gamut.
There is no real comment upon Stanford on the Wilson case, though it seems she found help elsewhere.
There is a sense of dissatisfaction with Stanford procedures in the Kokenis article for not restricting her further, along with an acknowledgement that nobody really knows what to do.
There is a sense that Stanford was too stringent in the Carey case, after all she went on to play at Texas and the WNBA with apparently no adverse effects (that I have heard about anyway - though what I may have heard is pretty limited).

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - 2006alum - 06-22-2017

Wow. Her story is profoundly sad. It's true it is one-sided, but it still seems like not enough is being done to recognize the seriousness of potential concussions when they first happen. I wish her the best going forward; it sounds like she found a lot of inner strength to get through all of this, and hopefully it will only help her in life going forward.

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - fullmetal - 06-22-2017

Certainly the sense that she was estranged from her team leads me to think that she suffered additional consequences from the concussion that ought not to have been so.  If anything, that's when she would have needed her coaches and teammates the most.  That she was able to call upon friends to help her through dark times is a blessing--I certainly wished I had the understanding and humility to have leaned more on friends during hard times at Stanford.

Hopefully she'll remember her undergraduate years with fondness; there is certainly time enough to make good memories and live well at Stanford.

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - BobK - 06-22-2017

Yet so many teammates liked and commented with affection on her instragram post. 

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - fullmetal - 06-23-2017

Social media is now the face you want others to see...not your true face.

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - BobK - 06-23-2017

820 likes many comments and doubt it's so the posters trying to look good
Or I sit behind the bench and never noticed any thing but affection and caring with Haley and her teammates.



Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - fullmetal - 06-23-2017

I believe you Bob!  You know I always do.  But what's perceived by Hodson on a day-to-day basis is something we can't know, despite the glimpses of her life we catch in the public eye.  I do sympathize with her.

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - BobK - 06-23-2017

I also sympathize with Hayley

Do all realize the concussion she talks about at Stanford occurred not this past season but 2015 ? 

Thanks full metal 😀

Also great post Ct Card

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - 2006alum - 06-23-2017

It's totally compatible for her teammates at times to be less than fully understanding of her predicament, possibly thought her issues were more about the shin splints than the concussions, and therefore to question her decision to take the year off, only to realize now, in hindsight, things were much worse, and now they wish her all the best. That version of events would be completely understandable to me, and doesn't impugn their character or require the Hodson not be telling the truth. With medical issues that involve a certain amount of privacy, there is often a disconnect between what the patient knows and is experiencing and what third parties perceive and assume.

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - BobK - 06-23-2017

Nicely said 2006.   

Re: WVB: Hayley Hodson medical retirement - BostonCard - 06-23-2017

A while ago I spoke to a Stanford parent of a player (different team) whose son lost a year to injury.  The kid (now graduated) was a team leader but felt many of the same feelings of isolation, depression, etc. that Hodson felt, though not to the same degree.  It was a mixture of guilt at feeling like he let his team down, frustration at the slow progress of his healing, isolation that he couldn't participate in many team activities and that his fellow teammates struggled at the right way to correspond to an injured player, sadness that he wasn't with the team to witness its accomplishments.  Simply put, even under the best of circumstances, it is very difficult for an elite athlete, for whom the sport is a large part of their identity, to be injured for a prolonged period of time.

The good news is that this player did recover and got a redshirt year, did not get hurt again, and went on to be a star.  But of course, it doesn't happen for all.

BC