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Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - Durty Nelly - 08-27-2017

I only watched the game on a stream, but I do not recall seeing the following players on the field.  I am correct?  Where there other notable absences?

Hall, Tyler, Peek, Arcega-Whiteside, Tucker, Palma, Speights

A few thoughts.

Malik Antoine seemed to be very active.  Does anyone have a view on how the second DL played? 

Cameron Scarlett seems to have taken a big step forward.  Wonder if his high school injury hampered his performance last year.

The debuts of Wedington and Parkinson were impressive.

Run blocking was as expected and the pass protection was solid.

Glad the delay of game bug only got us a few times. 

Was hoping to see more from Robinson and the outside linebackers.  Seemed that they lost the edge too often and were not getting to the QB in passing situations.

Our TE's and going to be a match up nightmare for opponents.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - OutsiderFan - 08-27-2017

Palma played.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - pcgoode - 08-27-2017

JJAW was on the sideline.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - winflop - 08-27-2017

Hall didn't even make the trip. No news on whether that was due to injury or something else like team rules.

The other guys were all injured to varying degrees.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - OutsiderFan - 08-27-2017

Based on my one viewing of the contest, which included some in-game DVR rewinding and re-watching, here are some things that grabbed my attention.  I'm leaving out the expected or not particularly noteworthy and focusing on the good and not good around question marks we have had about this team.

The Good
Offense
- Herbig was dominant
- Burkett looked much better than I can ever remember him being
- Insane OL depth in general
- Walker Little sure can bend his hips and move his feet; he and Sarell played together a lot
- Best TEs in the country?
- Parkinson and Wedington look like best True Frosh receiving options in a long time
- Costello (so clearly better than Burns)
Defense
- Phillips was pretty much unblockable
- Cotton really seemed to have an impact
- Did they even throw a single ball at Meeks?
- Reid really strong performance
- Malik Antoine looks like the top Nickel option, seems to have surpassed Buncom
- Nice to see Barton, Okereke, and Alfieri get most of the reps with 1st unit

The not Good
Offense
- Burns is a capable #3, but he's a #3, the passing game is just too fast for him
- Hamilton clear weak link; Hall was presumably #1, but I don't see how Little isn't the starter at RT very soon
Defense
- Nothing I saw against Rice in any way changes my DL concern, in fact, I'm now more concerned*

* I'm guessing Rice got 2/3 of its rushing yards when Phillips wasn't playing.

Overall, what is there to really complain about?  As I mentioned last week, a blowout doesn't guarantee a championship team, but only teams that blowout teams like Rice can be considered that caliber.  It was great to see validation of Shaw's assertion the offense would be more productive because they would spread the ball to more people, and Parker and Wedington are clearly special talents. When's the last time at least seven Stanford receivers had at least 40 yards?  And people were concerned about WRs...

One note.  Some people will be concerned about the lack of a pass rush, but the Rice offensive scheme made it difficult to conventionally rush the passer as a result of the constant jet sweep threat. In fact, Rice scored its only touchdown when several Stanford defenders thought the QB had the ball when he didn't. 



Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - Hulk01 - 08-27-2017

This was key to me, and a possible key for our season:

“It was great to see him adjust in the pocket, slide in the pocket, go through his progressions, his No. 2, his No. 3 reads.

Shaw, on Chryst."

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - Hurlburt88 - 08-27-2017

I thought Little was clearly better in pass protection than Hamilton;  I could not tell in the run game. 

Alfieri seemed to get right shoulder or forearm dinged in the third quarter on a run stop and did not return.  Hope it's minor, obviously. 

Thought Stewart played decently and also Robinson showed some athleticism. 

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - needle - 08-27-2017

Wilson got some first-team snaps at guard and had a pancake block on the Love touchdown.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - Bruce Wang - 08-27-2017

Given how great he played in the Spring Game, I am surprised we didn't see Speights. See on another thread here that he's injured.

Loved KJ's frozen ropes.  Am I crazy to think he has a better arm than Andrew?  The only obstacle between him and starting must be command of the playbook.  He needs a STRIVR in his dorm room.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - OutsiderFan - 08-27-2017

(08-27-2017, 06:42 AM)hurlburt88 link Wrote:I thought Little was clearly better in pass protection than Hamilton;  I could not tell in the run game.
 
Me either.  They didn't run the ball nearly as well when Sarell and Little were both playing, but they also were playing with Powell, Chaffin, and Maihen, not Herbig, Burkett, Fanaika/Wilson.

(08-27-2017, 06:42 AM)hurlburt88 link Wrote:Alfieri seemed to get right shoulder or forearm dinged in the third quarter on a run stop and did not return.  Hope it's minor, obviously. 

He did seem to hurt something, but I thought he stayed in the game right after he was dinged and came out as a matter of just letting Branch and Perez play.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - Hurlburt88 - 08-27-2017

OutsiderFan, I rewatched this and it seemed like Alfieri initially stayed in the field as the camera panned away, but then on the next play he was not in. 

Have Not Yet Reviewed Game in Detail But a Few Thoughts - AncientCityIndian - 08-27-2017

Hamilton had a bit of a problem with a quick outside pass rusher and Chryst paid the price.

Barton got turned around in pass coverage and Rice`s Stewart caught  a pass downfield on the sideline over his head.

Wedington flat out belongs and I suspect he will become better every game as he gains experience and is utilized creatively.  I will stand by my initial impression that he is a Winesberry/Milburn clone and will be a big part of our team this year.

Tyler made a bad decision on the first punt return by calling for a fair catch when he had a 15-20 yard return in the bag.

Chryst threw into coverage a few times and that decision making concerned me.

I have to take a closer look at our run defense to discover why we were vulnerable to misdirection and the jet sweep.  We generally handled  Oregon States jet sweep pretty well.

Costello looks raw but he looks like a player who could be very good in the future.  He will be the back up very soon as his talent far surpasses Burns and he seems to play with a killer instinct which I love, no pun intended.

All I can say about Parkinson and the other TE`s is that I hope Shaw continues to use them creatively and that if he does, it makes it that much more difficult to focus on our bread and butter running game. 

I have to look more closely as to why Love was stuffed a few times in the middle of the game on runs inside the tackles.  Rice surely made a few adjustments but one or more O linemen certainly made some major mistakes or missed blocks.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - Hurlburt88 - 08-27-2017

Regarding Barton, I also saw some things I liked in terms of physicality and enthusiasm.  He also seems to be sporting a bit of a Mohawk  . . . a bit of Skov intensity? 

Was disappointed to see Wilson whif on a pass rusher, I believe in the 3rd Q.  Very strong in run blocking yet on that play really got fooled. 

for the most part, Little seems to absorb people. 

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - SpokaneLee - 08-27-2017

(08-27-2017, 05:41 AM)winflop link Wrote:The other guys were all injured to varying degrees.

That's not quite right. No one knows the reason that Tucker did not make the trip.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - fullmetal - 08-27-2017

IIRC, Little was over at RT and Sarell was at LT.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - Hank 91 - 08-27-2017

(08-27-2017, 09:44 AM)fullmetal link Wrote:IIRC, Little was over at RT and Sarell was at LT.

This is right. Little took over for Hamilton at RT early in the first half and, I think, ended up playing more. I'm curious to see what the depth chart looks like for September 9th.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - BobK - 08-27-2017

SL you mean Hall didn't make the trip.  Tucker did.  Hall had been injured, still that's not a reason unless concussion or ??
Little on the Right , Sarell on the Left

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - ATLCard - 08-27-2017

Per the previous discussions about whether Costello was over-hyped -- I think he is who is was supposed to be.  Given how Shaw tends to operate he won't be starting this year (or maybe/likely next year either) unless Chryst gets hurt or regresses, but I am now more comfortable about QB depth.  He looked like a player.

Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - martyup - 08-27-2017

(08-27-2017, 10:33 AM)ATLcard link Wrote:Per the previous discussions about whether Costello was over-hyped -- I think he is who is was supposed to be.  Given how Shaw tends to operate he won't be starting this year (or maybe/likely next year either) unless Chryst gets hurt or regresses, but I am now more comfortable about QB depth.  He looked like a player.

Man, he looked like a gun slinger with wheels.  I'm much more comfortable about our QB situation now.
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Re: Who did not play? Who beyond the obvious stood out? - Hank 91 - 08-27-2017

Yeah, I agree with this. Also, it was nice that he was actually allowed to run the offense. As I tweeted last night, did you ever think you'd see a David Shaw offense with a quarterback in the shotgun on first down in the fourth quarter with a 48-point lead?