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vaya con Dios - johnnyo53 - 09-14-2017

these were the messages I got, that locked me out until this morning, for the past several weeks:
This ban is set to expire September 14, 2017, 11:09:02 am.
Sorry johnnyo53, you are banned from posting and sending personal messages on this forum.
This ban is set to expire September 14, 2017, 11:09:02 am.
so, for those of you who have been taking cheap shots at me out of your ignorance and my inability to answer back, perhaps it says more about you and your character, but it really doesn't matter.
i never received an formal explanation of what the ad hominem was, i believe threads have been censored or removed. 
could it have been "snowflake"?  i know for a fact i didn't call anyone a "cheese eating surrender monkey"  or a "monstrosity".
that strikes me as particularly poor form for a virtue signalling group, but perhaps that's how you roll.
let me reiterate how i roll, as i bid you all adieu- i don't accept micromanaging, pc nonsense, and the inability to tolerate biting sarcasm and creative verbiage.  so i'm not a good fit here
i can accept that some people who don't know me, or even if they do, disagree with my strongly held convictions and observations on anything, but football most particularly.
i don't particularly care if you think the game has passed me by, or if my mediocre CFL and NFL career are indicative of a general failure to have phd in football science or lack of continuing education therein.  sit with me and some active and retired peers and you are quickly disabused of that notion.  i see things on the field at game speed that most of you miss. i can extrapolate from a wide field of view and that game sense what is happening.  some of it is pre-snap reads, time/down and distance, personnel knowledge, and tendency info, i am programmed for this stuff- i don't need an announcer to spin either the action or results.  that is a result of experience and instincts honed in the crucible of the business that most of you have never experienced, even if you were lucky enough to get to D-1.  those who make those statements about the game passing me by are easily disproved. i make my analysis and let the chips fall were they will.  i don't jock for any coach or program when i analyze them. i look for problems, the reasons for them, and solutions.  i tend to speak in terms of the downside risk and evaluate from that default forward.  coaches are never satisfied, neither are players, that is part of our dna, so my tendency is default to the problems and worry over the downside risks.  in the end, i'm a fan, but i try to be more objective.  i want the best for program and athletes.  occasionally i can give a sh*t about the coaches too.  i have experienced and had relationship with, both college and NFL, and maintain great respect and love for- Willie Shaw.  I have great respect for David Shaw.  I find fault in everyone including myself, but these boards and our status as fans put us in the opinion business, and i don't apologize for my opinions, however, i do admit when i'm wrong.  as rare as that is.
i have torn up Jim Harbaugh as well as David Shaw, and their assistants, as well as Stanford and other program coaches both past and present. i have greater restraint in my critiques for players, and coaches whose playing career i admire, but i don't admire every coach who ever played or coached.
i offer no apologies for my online persona.  on tos, we carved out a niche and made some lifelong friends out of online enemies and strangers, many of whom come to our Chuck Taylor Grove tailgate to this day- whether to argue or agree, we share food and strong drink. we even have off season lunches.  many of these people are present on this board or have recently become active here.
it is instructive that the initial post on my "time-out" generated 3X the views and comments of the average thread here.  i guess that's a bad thing.
i find myself in good company with others who've had philosophical differences or personalities that were deemed no longer welcome- Garvin and Ferrari are the only two I know of.
i welcome those of you who've never met me to visit me in the Grove on game day, and introduce yourselves, whether we've sparred or not.
i will continue to post on TOS and probably re-emerge on The Cardinal Report where they've sponsored me in the past, and even ask me to participate in chat event with former Stanford greats (not me) and NFLers. 
you think i'm taking my ball and going home? fine.  i don't need the aggravation of having to play in a sandbox where trivial words are spun into petty butthurt controversies and the opportunity to criticize me without the opportunity to defend myself.  the ALLCAPS complaints are hilarious to me.
i enjoyed some of the football minds on this board, there are some good ones here that i don't know and have never met, hope you come see me. 
my style ain't for everyone, but i'm comfortable with it, and if you can't handle it, well, let me just let you have your safe space back.
adios THE DOC

Re: vaya con Dios - martyup - 09-14-2017

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Re: vaya con Dios - 82lsju - 09-14-2017

(09-14-2017, 02:57 PM)johnnyo53 link Wrote:i welcome those of you who've never met me to visit me in the Grove on game day, and introduce yourselves, whether we've sparred or not.

THE DOC

and if they are lucky they can have some celery pie too  :)

Re: vaya con Dios - lex24 - 09-14-2017

Stick around DOC.  I think sometimes we forget this is football and it's supposed to be fun

Re: vaya con Dios - Phogge - 09-14-2017

Eric, for the last time we grow a rhubarb sub species created in the climate of Ms. TC's Ferndale village. It's green so what? Bring a little food coloring to DD's tailgate.

Just to let you know, we have a bumper crop of pippin and Grannysmiths. If you continue to ply me with touchdown cookies I just might make an apple pie.

As for DOC, I roll with him but am staying put on this board until I too am struck with a harpoon. Sorry it didn't work out, if you ever have a chance to meet him most of you would enjoy it.

Re: vaya con Dios - FarmDad.01 - 09-14-2017

As far as farewell addresses go, Gen. Douglas MacArthur said it better -- and much more succinctly.

Re: vaya con Dios - CowboyIndian - 09-15-2017

(09-14-2017, 11:33 PM)FarmDad.01 link Wrote:As far as farewell addresses go, Gen. Douglas MacArthur said it better -- and much more succinctly.

Well, then, as critiques go, aren't you - and all of us, really - lucky that you won't have to compose another.

Re: vaya con Dios - 82lsju - 09-15-2017

(09-14-2017, 09:48 PM)Phogge link Wrote:Just to let you know, we have a bumper crop of pippin and Grannysmiths. If you continue to ply me with touchdown cookies I just might make an apple pie.

ummmmm, apple pie........

which games are you planning to attend?

we expect to be at all the home games.

right now we're assessing just how many TD cookies we need each game, current forecast is not all that many  :(


Re: vaya con Dios - Treebound - 09-15-2017

I'm sorry to see the Doc go.
I enjoyed his perspectives and his wit when he first came to the Boot during the dark years of Stanford football.  He brought with him a fun cast of characters, yes you too TC/Phog.  They are Fans, and frankly there aren't that many of us.

The all caps and the occasional dart thrown are more about his passion for the team, the school and the game.  He's a straight shooter.  I believe that a full spectrum of thoughts and opinions makes this place better.  Like Garvin, I will miss Doc's perspective and passion and I will hope we can all be a bit more accepting so that this trend doesn't continue.

Re: vaya con Dios - Beeg_Dawg - 09-15-2017

Missed it. What happened?  Did I wake up in Berkley?  >:(

Re: vaya con Dios - BostonCard - 09-15-2017

(09-15-2017, 10:19 AM)Treebound link Wrote:I'm sorry to see the Doc go.
I enjoyed his perspectives and his wit when he first came to the Boot during the dark years of Stanford football.  He brought with him a fun cast of characters, yes you too TC/Phog.  They are Fans, and frankly there aren't that many of us.

The all caps and the occasional dart thrown are more about his passion for the team, the school and the game.  He's a straight shooter.  I believe that a full spectrum of thoughts and opinions makes this place better.  Like Garvin, I will miss Doc's perspective and passion and I will hope we can all be a bit more accepting so that this trend doesn't continue.

Let the record show that Phogge came to this board before DOC.

BC

Re: vaya con Dios - BostonCard - 09-15-2017

The fact that DOC wrote in all lower case is also noted.  Its significance is unknown.

BC

Re: vaya con Dios - FrankO - 09-15-2017

The DOC isn't for everyone... just like Stanford. Often Agree, sometimes not. Such is Life.

Will continue to enjoy his insights and banter (EVEN IF ALL CAPS)  on the Booty. Shame, like Garvin,  no longer welcome here.  Is this Berkeley?

The Show Trial - Mick - 09-15-2017

They actually had a show trial for DOC.  It was a fair trial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xlQaimsGg

Re: vaya con Dios - Phogge - 09-15-2017

(09-15-2017, 06:41 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:The fact that DOC wrote in all lower case is also noted.  Its significance is unknown.

BC

Perhaps irony involved? The Jebbies taught that there was Big I Irony and small I irony. Never could figure it out but sure had a bunch of fun In JUG.

Re: vaya con Dios - pefloresjr - 09-15-2017

(09-15-2017, 08:22 PM)FrankO link Wrote:The DOC isn't for everyone... just like Stanford. Often Agree, sometimes not. Such is Life.

Will continue to enjoy his insights and banter (EVEN IF ALL CAPS)  on the Booty. Shame, like Garvin,  no longer welcome here.  Is this Berkeley?

I don't think this is factually correct.  Ferrari was the only poster (other than true trolls) I know of who was banned but he seemed unable to resist getting into strong, personal conflicts with multiple people.  Garvin didn't agree with the decision and decided to quit after expressing his anger over it.  Keeping Ferrari and his posting practices is not something I would draw a line for but Garvin is free to make his own choices.  I am friends with Garvin and sat with him at multiple Rose Bowls so I miss him, but life goes on for both of us.  Garvin is welcome to come back anytime he wants.  Like Garvin, DOC is also welcome here.  As he acknowledged, he refuses to apologize for or change his online persona and doesn't want to post under the rules of this site. 

Although at times the rules seem overly harsh, I remember very clearly how terrible it was when politics and anger started to overwhelm our wonderful Stanford sports community.  Instead of eagerly opening the Cardboard every morning to catch up on all the posts about multiple sports, I found myself opening the Cardboard with trepidation because I might not be able to fight back the urge to go to political battle.  As things got worse, I was preparing to leave the Cardboard and get all of my information from official and other media sites.  I think it is very difficult to maintain the Cardboard's high signal, low noise culture with highly bellicose posters.  And I know that it is impossible to maintain if we allow politics to infect the discussions. 

Bottom line, I am sad to see some posters choose to leave because they don't like the rules, but that is a price I am willing to pay to keep the truly special character of the Cardboard.  If I want some bombast, I can always read TOS for a few minutes to remember the reasons I chose the Cardboard. 

Cheers,
Pete F.

Re: vaya con Dios - Leftcoast - 09-16-2017

Very well put, Pete.

Re: vaya con Dios - JohnR34231 - 09-16-2017

(09-16-2017, 12:25 AM)leftcoast link Wrote:Very well put, Pete.

I agree. Well put.
I do think that if people are going to be suspended or banned it should be made very clear to them why. Not really privy to whether this was done in the most recent case or not, but some people seem to think it wasn't.
Also, is ALL CAPS posting acceptable or not acceptable on this board? I think there should be some clarification on this.

Re: vaya con Dios - Mick - 09-16-2017

(09-15-2017, 11:04 PM)Phogge link Wrote:[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17396.msg200622#msg200622 date=1505526088]
The fact that DOC wrote in all lower case is also noted.  Its significance is unknown.

BC

Perhaps irony involved? The Jebbies taught that there was Big I Irony and small I irony. Never could figure it out but sure had a bunch of fun In JUG.
[/quote]

Judgments Under God.  Brings back memories.

Re: vaya con Dios - ChicagoCard - 09-16-2017

(09-15-2017, 06:41 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:The fact that DOC wrote in all lower case is also noted.  Its significance is unknown.

It was for emphasis.