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Costello! - cardcrimson - 09-23-2017

So far, he looks pretty good. A ton of heart. Seems to be a leader. Some nice throws, some well, not so nice. Seems to have a really long windup. Why hasn't that been fixed?

Anyway, hate to see Chryst get hurt, but Costello looks like a diamond thats a little bit rough.

Costello - Chupacabra - 09-23-2017

Keller Christ walks into a bar. Josh Nunes looks up, "Hey kid, let me buy you a drink."

Re: Costello! - North Woods - 09-23-2017

(09-23-2017, 09:24 PM)cardcrimson link Wrote:So far, he looks pretty good. A ton of heart. Seems to be a leader. Some nice throws, some well, not so nice. Seems to have a really long windup. Why hasn't that been fixed?

Don't worry, that will get fixed after a bit of time with the Browns.

Re: Costello! - SF_Cardinal_Fan - 09-24-2017

After his first series he settled down, and seemed to gain confidence.
Costello's rhythm , timing, mobility etc... interjected a beautiful fluidity to Stanford's offense; his play was sensational.

Re: Costello! - Hurlburt88 - 09-24-2017

I watched the end of 2009 Stanford ucla game this pst Tuesday.  Lick threw behind receiver on roll-out to three right--looked a lot like the throw that Schultz saved.  I hope a portent!   

Re: Costello! - CornFed - 09-24-2017

And who jumped on Love in the end zone after his 69-yard scoring run?  KJ was almost there as fast as Love.

Re: Costello! - cardcrimson - 09-24-2017

(09-24-2017, 08:01 AM)CornFed link Wrote:And who jumped on Love in the end zone after his 69-yard scoring run?  KJ was almost there as fast as Love.
Noticed that too. The guys a leader. His touchdown was reminiscent of Elways run in the Super Bowl against the Packers, the one were he helicoptered around after the hit.

Re: Costello! - cardcrimson - 09-24-2017

Any chance we could flip this guy from Wisconsin? Would be a fun combination. . . .

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/a-j-abbott-179771


Re: Costello - Redrum - 09-24-2017

(09-23-2017, 09:29 PM)Chupacabra link Wrote:Keller Christ walks into a bar. Josh Nunes looks up, "Hey kid, let me buy you a drink."

Nice!! 

As an aside, I wonder what Josh Nunes is doing now.

Re: Costello - 82lsju - 09-24-2017

(09-24-2017, 08:12 AM)Redrum link Wrote:Nice!! 

As an aside, I wonder what Josh Nunes is doing now.

Google is your friend (sometimes)

Nunes founded Believe Cross in 2015 with his Father, Tim, and works at the company with both his Father and Mother, Debbie. Believe Cross makes handmade, wooden crosses as an expression of Christian faith.

http://www.believecross.com/our-story/

Re: Costello! - washingtonismoney - 09-24-2017

One play I enjoyed from Costello: I think it was 2nd-and-12. A shotgun play. For whatever reason Arcega-Whiteside, in the slot, wasn't covered at the line. Instead it looked like the OLB was taking away the inside and the safety was lined up way off him. It looked like a favorable matchup -- so I was pleased to see Costello instantly go after that matchup, off of (either) a play-action or run/pass option. Nice work from him.

Re: Costello! - OutsiderFan - 09-24-2017

When your team's starting QB goes down with an apparent injury, you should be horrified, begging the universe to make sure he is OK and can come back in the next play.  How many Stanford fans can honestly say they felt this way when Chryst went down?  The fact that many Stanford fans thought "hey, maybe this will give Costello a chance," and a coaching staff learning it's #1 QB is the guy it thought was #3, is a sad commentary, but better late than never I guess.

"Doesn't know the offense as well" is just a canard.  It doesn't matter if QB A knows the offense better than QB C, if he can't execute more than 50% of it effectively.  If QB C knows 50% of the offense, but can execute it effectively 75% of the time, that's who has to play.  Even assuming you buy into the notion Chryst was the better QB option because he knew the offense more than Costello, it's really, really hard to tell exactly what Chryst does better than Costello after watching the UCLA game. And it's especially difficult to think Chryst does more valuable things for Stanford's team than what Costello can do for it. Small sample size, I know, but...

Costello has the best throwing arm of any available Stanford QB.  He is the most fluid athlete of all the available QBs.  He operates with a greater sense of urgency than any Stanford QB.  And - and I think this is important due to Shaw's calm demeanor - Costello has a fiery passion and enthusiasm that provides life to the game that is simply lacking with Burns and Chryst.  As Bryce Love said, KJ has a command of the huddle that inspires the offense. 

Last year USC switched to RS Frosh Darnold after brutal games from Max Browne, and from 1-3, ended up 9-3, with a Rose Bowl trophy.  In 2012, after starting with Nunes, Stanford went with RS Frosh Hogan and won its own Rose Bowl.  Costello may not be Darnold, but it sure seems he can be Hogan, maybe even a bit better?

Re: Costello! - Goose - 09-24-2017

(09-24-2017, 09:45 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:When your team's starting QB goes down with an apparent injury, you should be horrified, begging the universe to make sure he is OK and can come back in the next play.  How many Stanford fans can honestly say they felt this way when Chryst went down?  The fact that many Stanford fans thought "hey, maybe this will give Costello a chance," and a coaching staff learning it's #1 QB is the guy it thought was #3, is a sad commentary, but better late than never I guess.

"Doesn't know the offense as well" is just a canard.  It doesn't matter if QB A knows the offense better than QB C, if he can't execute more than 50% of it effectively.  If QB C knows 50% of the offense, but can execute it effectively 75% of the time, that's who has to play.  Even assuming you buy into the notion Chryst was the better QB option because he knew the offense more than Costello, it's really, really hard to tell exactly what Chryst does better than Costello after watching the UCLA game. And it's especially difficult to think Chryst does more valuable things for Stanford's team than what Costello can do for it. Small sample size, I know, but...

Costello has the best throwing arm of any available Stanford QB.  He is the most fluid athlete of all the available QBs.  He operates with a greater sense of urgency than any Stanford QB.  And - and I think this is important due to Shaw's calm demeanor - Costello has a fiery passion and enthusiasm that provides life to the game that is simply lacking with Burns and Chryst.  As Bryce Love said, KJ has a command of the huddle that inspires the offense. 

Last year U$C switched to RS Frosh Darnold after brutal games from Max Browne, and from 1-3, ended up 9-3, with a Rose Bowl trophy.  In 2012, after starting with Nunes, Stanford went with RS Frosh Hogan and won its own Rose Bowl.  Costello may not be Darnold, but it sure seems he can be Hogan, maybe even a bit better?
OutsiderFan, this must be a record. I agree with ALMOST everything in your post. I think many of us were afraid that Costello wouldn't get a real chance to play more than a series in this game. It is unfortunate that Chryst got hurt, but it did force a "make do" approach with Costello. To his credit, Shaw said that while they had to simplify things for Costello, it wasn't a problem. Shaw also said they has to change some things during the game and Costello coped with it. While I like what Costello did last night, I am sure that he will have his issues too. Accuracy is still a problem for all our QBs, and UCLA has a truly BAD defense. We shouldn't make the same error that many did last year, that Chryst was much better than Burns because he beat six teams with really bad defenses. Against a more technically complex defense, it is possible Chryst is the better option. However, as you say, if he can't make the plays, it doesn't matter that he knows what to do. I think right now almost everyone would like to see Costello get the nod. He doesn't fix everything, but he plays!

Re: Costello! - martyup - 09-24-2017

This is a different situation than when Hogan came in to replace Nunes.  We have an incredible running back in Bryce Love.  Coach Shaw, in his post-game press conference, called him the best running back in college football.  We don't need Costello to be a Darnold or Rosen.  We just need a QB that can keep defenses honest by hitting open receivers while avoiding a pass rush.  This will allow Love to do his thing.  And, his thing is beautiful.

Re: Costello! - Goose - 09-24-2017

(09-24-2017, 10:33 AM)martyup link Wrote:We just need a QB that can keep defenses honest by hitting open receivers while avoiding a pass rush.  This will allow Love to do his thing.  And, his thing is beautiful.
Well put. It would be great if the QB could do more, but he MUST be able to reliably take what is there and move the chains. It also helps to audible out of bad play calls, but we can live without that if we must. We can't live without basic competence in execution.

Re: Costello! - Mick - 09-25-2017

(09-24-2017, 08:01 AM)CornFed link Wrote:And who jumped on Love in the end zone after his 69-yard scoring run?  KJ was almost there as fast as Love.


Saw that.  Couldn't believe (a) how fast he got there and (b) how high he could jump, TBH.