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Stanford #22 in AP poll - DC 86 - 10-15-2017

No Pac-12 schools in the top ten bodes poorly for the playoff.

U$C #11, UW #12, WSU #15.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - norcard - 10-15-2017

We were already too 25 before oregon

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - DC 86 - 10-15-2017

Thanks, corrected.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - martyup - 10-15-2017

Not much respect for tacking 49 on the webfoots and holding their high octane offense to 7.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - oman - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 12:19 PM)DC 86 link Wrote:No Pac-12 schools in the top ten bodes poorly for the playoff.

U$C #11, UW #12, WSU #15.

Yep.  Hope that SC wins out until we beat them, and it will make for good conversation though. 

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - stupac2 - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 12:36 PM)martyup link Wrote:Not much respect for tacking 49 on the webfoots and holding their high octane offense to 7.

We didn't hold their high-octane offense to 7, we held their hobbled and ineffective offense to 7. It was still a good performance, but I suspect that with Herbert in there they would've had more than 40 passing yard for the game...

Anyway, it's fine. We're the second-highest 2-loss team, with games coming against a bunch of top teams. If we win out we'll be in the top 10.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - OutsiderFan - 10-15-2017

The Pac-12 is in real playoff trouble now for sure.  Have to hope Oklahoma beats TCU, but even if they do, OU's win over Ohio State is going to loom large. 

A 1-loss OU goes to playoff over any 1-loss Pac-12 team.
A 1-loss Clemson (who beat Auburn OOC) goes to playoff over any 1-loss Pac-12 team.
The SEC winner will be in for sure.

As for the B1G, Wisconsin's schedule is worse and a bigger joke than Washington's, but they will get most likely PSU or Ohio State in championship game.  PSU has Michigan, Ohio State, and Michigan State the next three weeks.  Ohio State got rolled by OU, and Michigan does have a win over Florida.

Southern Cal cannot afford a loss to ND this week under any circumstances. But I will be rooting against them because I always do!







Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - stupac2 - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 12:58 PM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:The Pac-12 is in real playoff trouble now for sure.  Have to hope Oklahoma beats TCU, but even if they do, OU's win over Ohio State is going to loom large. 

A 1-loss OU goes to playoff over any 1-loss Pac-12 team.
A 1-loss Clemson (who beat Auburn OOC) goes to playoff over any 1-loss Pac-12 team.
The SEC winner will be in for sure.

As for the B1G, Wisconsin's schedule is worse and a bigger joke than Washington's, but they will get most likely PSU or Ohio State in championship game.  PSU has Michigan, Ohio State, and Michigan State the next three weeks.  Ohio State got rolled by OU, and Michigan does have a win over Florida.

Southern Cal cannot afford a loss to ND this week under any circumstances. But I will be rooting against them because I always do!

Stanford's odds of getting into the playoff are essentially nil, so why do we care? What difference does it make to us if some other team goes and gets murdered by Alabama? I suppose that gives us somewhat greater odds of making a NY6 bowl, but with 3 losses I just don't see that happening (yeah, it did with USC last year, but I don't think we'd get that "OMG BLUE BLOOD" bonus that put them in over Colorado).

I want whatever makes Stanford's path to the CCG maximally probable, and that involves other teams losing. If that means the Pac-12 doesn't get a spot in the playoff then fine, who cares?

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - Spiny_Norman - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 01:07 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:I want whatever makes Stanford's path to the CCG maximally probable, and that involves other teams losing. If that means the Pac-12 doesn't get a spot in the playoff then fine, who cares?

Thank you, stupac, for expressing my feelings as well. As Coach Shaw says, you play for tangible evidence of success, like a Pac 12 North championship, Pac 12 championship and a berth in the Fiesta Bowl.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - stupac2 - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 01:43 PM)Spiny_Norman link Wrote:[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=17706.msg206633#msg206633 date=1508098048]
I want whatever makes Stanford's path to the CCG maximally probable, and that involves other teams losing. If that means the Pac-12 doesn't get a spot in the playoff then fine, who cares?

Thank you, stupac, for expressing my feelings as well. As Coach Shaw says, you play for tangible evidence of success, like a Pac 12 North championship, Pac 12 championship and a berth in the Fiesta Bowl.
[/quote]

Wait, is the Rose a semifinal? Laaaaaaaaame.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - Spiny_Norman - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 02:17 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:[quote author=Spiny_Norman link=topic=17706.msg206643#msg206643 date=1508100204]
[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=17706.msg206633#msg206633 date=1508098048]
I want whatever makes Stanford's path to the CCG maximally probable, and that involves other teams losing. If that means the Pac-12 doesn't get a spot in the playoff then fine, who cares?

Thank you, stupac, for expressing my feelings as well. As Coach Shaw says, you play for tangible evidence of success, like a Pac 12 North championship, Pac 12 championship and a berth in the Fiesta Bowl.
[/quote]

Wait, is the Rose a semifinal? Laaaaaaaaame.
[/quote]

Yep.  That Ohio St-TCU semi-final is sure to be a big draw in Pasadena.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - donkey687 - 10-15-2017

If Stanford wins out (which is very unlikely), they have 60% chance of making the playoffs. That sounds crazy as you will point to a 1 loss Oklahoma or 1 loss TCU or 1 loss Clemson, but odds are those teams will have two losses with both losses more recent than Stanford's losses.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 10-15-2017

I remember a time not all that long ago when beating Oregon by 42 would be worth more than one spot in the polls.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - needle - 10-15-2017

The Fishduck guy was impressed:

Quote: First … I have to tip my hat to Coach David Shaw, as it was obvious that while Oregon may have had some skill players in the past that kept the Ducks competitive with the Cardinal, it is clear that at the present Stanford is a much superior program in their talent, scheme and system. They know what they are going to do, while Oregon is still learning what we want to do and how to do it.

http://fishduck.com/2017/10/the-stanford-fishwrap-some-positives-and-taggarts-learning-curve/

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - BostonCard - 10-16-2017

Fish Duck is always a good read.  Must have been tough to write in the context of the loss, but it is absolutely true that the Oregon running game had a field day against us (though mostly when we missed Phillips and Kalambayi).

Anyone have a breakdown of the running defense by half?

BC

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - CTcard - 10-16-2017

(10-16-2017, 12:28 AM)Boston Card link Wrote:Anyone have a breakdown of the running defense by half?

Oregon had 49 yds rushing in the second half (my count), but about -10 of those were on sacks.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - Hurlburt88 - 10-16-2017

IMHO clearly a different picture.    Part could be the game being out of hand and us holding the ball decently;  Given some good plays from both Phillips and the Preying Mantis plus the results I feel their presence contributed significantly to the lower number. 

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - gocard14 - 10-16-2017

The first half was disappointing but not surprising. I was hoping the Dline and MLBs we’re improving to the point to of being able to compensate Phillips absence, by that clearly wasn’t the case. Our D line was getting blown out of their lanes making LBs and DBs make tackles in space. To their credit, they only gave up 7 points despite all the rushing yards and did make some key stops when it counted.

I was happy with our run D in the second half. It wasn’t amazing, but Oregon is a good running team and the fact is we just don’t have an elite Front 7 this year. If our Offense continues to play well, the 2nd half run D combined with an increasingly opportunistic secondary will give us a good chance against any but the elite rushing attacks, which we don’t face again.

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - OutsiderFan - 10-16-2017

Was there also a difference between the first and second quarters' yards allowed?

In my cursory initial lots of fast forwarding view of the game (just to see the result given I went to bed before it started and didn't have time to watch the full game Sunday morning), I didn't see who was playing on defense, when, if Anderson switched anything up in terms of schemes after Oregon's early success. 

Re: Stanford #22 in AP poll - thunder_chik - 10-16-2017

Realistically, I think the only chance we will ever get to the national championship semi-finals (top 4) is to have a perfect, no loss season.

I'll be stoked if we win the North, capture another Pac 12 crown, and secure a W in a really attractive bowl game.

BTW, last time we had a perfect season was 1940.