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Some Perspective from another POV - Goose - 10-29-2017

I found the following article to be interesting, partly for what it says about WSU,Â partly because it reminds me of some of the discussion on this board, and partly because what it says about Stanford's team. I think it is worth reading, and perhaps a bit instructiveÂ :). Also interesting that Tyler Hilinski also wears #3.
https://www.cougcenter.com/2017/10/29/16566484/good-bad-ugly-of-wsu-cougar-football-desert-meltdown

Re: Some Perspective from another POV - hayaka - 10-30-2017

(10-29-2017, 04:13 PM)Goose link Wrote:I found the following article to be interesting, partly for what it says about WSU,Â partly because it reminds me of some of the discussion on this board, and partly because what it says about Stanford's team. I think it is worth reading, and perhaps a bit instructiveÂ :). Also interesting that Tyler Hilinski also wears #3.
https://www.cougcenter.com/2017/10/29/16566484/good-bad-ugly-of-wsu-cougar-football-desert-meltdown

"Luke Falk isnt going to get better. Tyler Hilinski has two-plus years left, and a much higher ceiling. Its time to get Hilinski more reps, especially since it was pretty clear Saturday that he isnt afraid to throw down the field, and he trusts his receivers. It also feels like the receivers trust Hilinski more than Falk at this point, because theyre probably sick and tired of getting open and watching Falk throw a checkdown."

Wow.Â Just change the names and virtually that entire paragraph could apply to Chryst and Costello.

Re: Some Perspective from another POV - winflop - 10-30-2017

(10-30-2017, 12:02 AM)hayaka link Wrote:Just change the names and virtually that entire paragraph could apply to Chryst and Costello.

Yeah, except Falk's played well against far more than one decent team.

Re: Some Perspective from another POV - SamuelMcF - 10-30-2017

(10-30-2017, 06:16 AM)winflop link Wrote:[quote author=hayaka link=topic=17833.msg209257#msg209257 date=1509346953]
Just change the names and virtually that entire paragraph could apply to Chryst and Costello.

Re: Some Perspective from another POV - Goose - 10-30-2017

(10-30-2017, 07:27 AM)SamuelMcF link Wrote:[quote author=winflop link=topic=17833.msg209264#msg209264 date=1509369376]
[quote author=hayaka link=topic=17833.msg209257#msg209257 date=1509346953]
Just change the names and virtually that entire paragraph could apply to Chryst and Costello.

Yeah, except Falk's played well against far more than one decent team.
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What exactly happened to him? Did - of all teams - DABEARS rattle him so much he lost his confidence? What is this, 2004?
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Nope. He has been having problems from the get-go this year. If you believe the article, he never improved from 2015. Not sure I buy that. My read is that the Air Raid risk-reward curve can be hard for any QB to deal with. When things are going well, everything you throw is caught (even if not for a ton of yards). When things don't go well, you get intercepted and take the blame. The difference between those two cases may be difficult to recognize as you take your 3 step drop. Not being analytical and remaining a "gunslinger" may be what is required. Falk now thinks too much according to Leach. We see the same with Chryst sometimes, but on a longer time scale.

Re: Some Perspective from another POV - washingtonismoney - 10-30-2017

Ironically the Air Raid seems like a less-than-great offense for a quarterback. You throw a ton of short passes and get sacked all the time. Who wants to do that?

Re: Some Perspective from another POV - Goose - 10-30-2017

(10-30-2017, 08:11 AM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Ironically the Air Raid seems like a less-than-great offense for a quarterback. You throw a ton of short passes and get sacked all the time. Who wants to do that?

Well, Leach would say that if you do it right you don't get sacked. However, since he recommend not thinking too much, I think your statement may be the correct conclusionÂ :).

Re: Some Perspective from another POV - CTcard - 10-30-2017

(10-30-2017, 07:27 AM)SamuelMcF link Wrote:What exactly happened to him? Did - of all teams - DABEARS rattle him so much he lost his confidence? What is this, 2004?

Well, one thing that happened to him is that he has always been overhyped. That's mostly because people confuse volume with quality.
It's not that he's been bad, just that he's not been "one of the best QBs in college football".

By my eye, he doesn't have a strong arm, doesn't have good pocket presence, and doesn't have enough athleticism to make a play when it's not there. But, he's accurate on short routes, tough, and doesn't usually do stupid things.

He also hasn't improved.
2014Â PER = 140.4
2015Â PER = 145.9
2016Â PER = 145.6
2017Â PER = 144.8

Those aren't terrible numbers, but only good. Nationally that ranksÂ #43,32,30,33.
[In 2014 he didn't play enough to qualify, but that PER would fit in at #43.]

Hilinski looks like a physically more talented guy, at least he is more mobile and has a bigger arm. He was a fairly highly regarded recruit, #43 QB overall, #24 Pro style, according to 214 sports in 2015.

While he may put the ball up for grabs, I also fear he is much more likely to have a monster game against us that Falk would.

I expect we'll see Falk - at least at first.

Re: Some Perspective from another POV - Goose - 10-30-2017

(10-30-2017, 09:55 AM)CTcard link Wrote:I expect we'll see Falk - at least at first.

That is what I would expect from most coaches. However, Leach seems to be quite capable of deciding Falk has "lost it" and going all in on #3. I give this a better than 40% chance. It may depend a lot on how Falk reacted to being benched.