I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now

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I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - yvonne - 11-12-2017

David Shaw has the opportunity to become Stanford's winningest football coach... against Cal.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - 81alum - 11-12-2017

How fitting.Â Back in 77 and 78 when I was in awe of Walsh I, I heard stories about Pop Warner and thought "no one can ever pass him....the modern era and our elite academic status just won't permit it."

I was wrong.Â Shaw has figured out a way.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - JohnR34231 - 11-13-2017

For so long a coach was successful and left for a perceived better opportunity or was unsuccessful and was fired. Shaw has finally changed that.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - FarmBoy - 11-13-2017

I think this is a h-ge point that is often missed by Shaw detractors. He's one of the few coaches who enables Stanford to have its cake and eat it too.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - FarmBoy - 11-13-2017

I think this is a h-ge point that is often missed by Shaw detractors. He's one of the few coaches who enables Stanford to have its cake and eat it too.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - French Rage - 11-13-2017

Who's he currently tied with?Â I'm assuming Willigham.Â Anyone else have 7? Warner?Â Is there a list somewhere showing Big Game coaching records?

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - stupac2 - 11-13-2017

Pop Warner.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - stupac2 - 11-13-2017

Pop Warner.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - GoodGrief - 11-13-2017

French Rage, Just to clarify, Yvonnes post meant that when Stanford plays Cal on Saturday, Shaw has the opportunity to become Stanfords winningest coach of all time (he is currently tied with Pop Warner forÂ most lifetime wins). Yvonnes Post was not referring to all time Big Game wins

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - GoodGrief - 11-13-2017

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - French Rage - 11-13-2017

French Rage, Just to clarify, Yvonnes post meant that when Stanford plays ×ÉÉ on Saturday, Shaw has the opportunity to become Stanfords winningest coach of all time (he is currently tied with Pop Warner forÂ most lifetime wins). Yvonnes Post was not referring to all time Big Game wins
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Ahh.Â I figured since the all-time record was being discussed a lot, she meant specifically in Big Games.Â Though wouldn't he close or at Big Game wins too?Â Actually come to think of it I was including him in the entire current streak and Harbaugh was 2010, so I guess he's only at 6, not 7, at the moment.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - French Rage - 11-13-2017

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - French Rage - 11-13-2017

Looking some more, Warner was only 5-1-3.Â Ralston was 7-2-0 and Willingham was 7-0-0, so with Shaw currently setting at 6-0-0 he could tie the record this week.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - cctop - 11-13-2017

Shaw is tied with Pop Warner for most overall wins as a Stanford head coach with 71.

With a win, Shaw will tie Willingham for most Big Game wins as a Stanford head coach with 7.Â Pop Warner went 5-1-3 in Big Games with a 7-year unbeaten streak when you include ties.

I don't know of a database that lists just Big Game coaching records, but you can cross-reference the Wikipedia pages for Big Game and for Stanford head coaches:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Game_(American_football)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Stanford_Cardinal_head_football_coaches

I'd also note that ×ÉÉ had an 8-game unbeaten streak (6-0-2) from 1947 to 1954 under Pappy Waldorf who went 7-1-2 overall.
And if it weren't for Harbaugh's freak win his first season (we went 4-8 that year) ×ÉÉ would have won 8 straight under Jeff Tedford.

Re: I knew this, but I didn't *realize* it until now - cctop - 11-13-2017