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Today in opponent coaching attrition - BostonCard - 12-15-2017

The chaos at ASU continues:

https://twitter.com/doughaller/status/941721393976156160

And also, potential coaching attrition:

https://twitter.com/footballscoop/status/941718863019945984

Alex Grinch to tOSU would be bad for the Pac-12 but good for us.

BC

Re: Today in opponent coaching attrition - ColoradoTree - 12-15-2017

The ASU situation is stunning.  The entire point of concocting this odd hands-off/figurehead model of a head coach and further empowering the coordinators was to make sure you kept both coordinators, rather than bringing in someone like Kevin Sumlin who would have hired his own OC and DC.  Now you're stuck with a head coach who hasn't coached a game in a decade, hasn't coached in college or had to recruit since the 1980s, and both of your coordinators have flown the coop. 

Just a bungling of the highest order.  That team is going to be dreadful.  Congrats, ASU!  You are now the cautionary tale that ADs and school administrators will think of when they're considering firing a head coach.  "Yeah, we're sick of 7-5, but we don't want to end up like ASU did when they fired Todd Graham!"  Of course, the easy response to that is: "Well, we're not morons, so I was thinking we'd hire an actual football coach and not a TV pundit, so I think we'll be OK."

Re: Today in opponent coaching attrition - washingtonismoney - 12-15-2017

Somewhat odd move for Grinch. He wouldn't be the coordinator, so it seems like a demotion and therefore (likely) bad for whatever head coaching aspirations he has. I assume he'd get paid more.

Perhaps the motivation is Leach's obvious wanderlust -- it seems like, after since Moos left, Leach wants to the the heck out of Pullman.

Re: Today in opponent coaching attrition - DC 86 - 12-15-2017

(12-15-2017, 11:19 AM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Somewhat odd move for Grinch. He wouldn't be the coordinator, so it seems like a demotion and therefore (likely) bad for whatever head coaching aspirations he has. I assume he'd get paid more.

Luke Fickell and Greg Schiano shared the DC job until Fickell left a year ago - at which point Schiano dropped the "co-" - so it's not out of the question that Grinch would be named co-DC, which wouldn't undermine Schiano since he is already also listed as "Associate Head Coach".

Fickell parlayed the co-DC job for the Cincinnati head coaching position and Schiano signed a MOU to be the head coach at Tennessee before chaos ensued, so I assume that Grinch rightly sees a position at OSU (regardless of the exact title) as a stronger path to being a head coach than being a co-ordinator at WSU. The Meyer coaching tree is extremely strong, being on his staff in a meaningful capacity seems more promising than the wilderness of the Palouse in terms of enhancing future opportunities. Dan McCarney wasn't even a co-ordinater under Meyer when he was hired as the North Texas head coach, although he had been the head coach at ISU previously.

Re: Today in opponent coaching attrition - washingtonismoney - 12-15-2017

Speaking generally, Bruce Feldman warns that "If your school has a very well-regarded defensive coordinator, there's a decent chance some big Power 5 program is throwing a ton of money at him this month to try and get him to leave."

Hmm...Lance Anderson qualify?

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/941751682735554560

Re: Today in opponent coaching attrition - BostonCard - 12-15-2017

Grinch is from Ohio, so a homecoming.

BC

Re: Today in opponent coaching attrition - terry - 12-15-2017

(12-15-2017, 12:42 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Grinch is from Ohio, so a homecoming.

BC

I always figured that Whoville must be in Ohio.

Re: Today in opponent coaching attrition - YA_TITTLE - 12-15-2017

(12-15-2017, 12:36 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Speaking generally, Bruce Feldman warns that "If your school has a very well-regarded defensive coordinator, there's a decent chance some big Power 5 program is throwing a ton of money at him this month to try and get him to leave."

Hmm...Lance Anderson qualify?

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/941751682735554560

Lance Anderson would qualify, except we're capable of throwing around just as much money as anyone else