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Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - Farm93 - 03-30-2018

https://news.stanford.edu/2018/03/30/offers-admission-2040-students/

47,450 applicants.


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - Spiny_Norman - 03-30-2018

(03-30-2018, 04:27 PM)Farm93 link Wrote:  https://news.stanford.edu/2018/03/30/offers-admission-2040-students/

47,450 applicants.

2040/47,450 = 4.3% admitted


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - Nan3cy - 03-30-2018

I wonder where I'd be going to college if I were graduating from high school this year. I have a really hard time believing I'd be in the 4.3%.  :(


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - Stymie - 03-30-2018

I'd guess that I would have been one of the 4.3%, but I probably would have had much less rich HS experiences, much less diversity of academic and athletic achievements, and probably turned down Stanford for some Chinese Uni........ :D


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - winflop - 03-31-2018

(03-30-2018, 05:48 PM)Nan3cy link Wrote:  I wonder where I'd be going to college if I were graduating from high school this year. I have a really hard time believing I'd be in the 4.3%.  :(

I struggle to figure out what is driving these rates lower. Is the pool of "qualified" candidates growing or are more "under-qualified" candidates applying. Probably some of both. No doubt that pools are larger overall because the average number of applications has gone up. Online application tools (Common App, etc) make it much easier to apply.

Probably other factors as well


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - Phogge - 03-31-2018

(03-30-2018, 05:48 PM)Nan3cy link Wrote:  I wonder where I'd be going to college if I were graduating from high school this year. I have a really hard time believing I'd be in the 4.3%.  :(

If you had a 4.9 in A.P., played an instrument, were a member of a high school environmental club, a regular cast member of HS plays and musicals, a volunteer at a downtown soup kitchen, a member of a select soccer team, a Big Bro or Big Sis and can write essays like Ring Lardner then you probably get in.

Of course you probably never got dirty swimming in a creek, never blew off some homework to just have kid’s fun, never played four man baseball with your buds, seldom went somewhere on a whim and NEVER did anything without helicopter parents approval.

I would never trade my childhood on the loose, my blue collar high school and pals I still see regularly, my State college degree and a career on my feet and not behind a screen for the life that these kids go through to get into school.


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - CowboyIndian - 03-31-2018

(03-31-2018, 04:49 AM)winflop link Wrote:  I struggle to figure out what is driving these rates lower. Is the pool of "qualified" candidates growing or are more "under-qualified" candidates applying.

It strikes me that a lot of it is the universal college application. The application fee is the only thing holding prospective students back from the shotgun approach.


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - qwerty49 - 03-31-2018

Does the application also indicate which other colleges you’ve applied to? ie does the school know specifically whom it’s competing against?


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - 82lsju - 03-31-2018

(03-31-2018, 08:51 AM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:  [quote author=winflop link=topic=18942.msg227045#msg227045 date=1522496971]
I struggle to figure out what is driving these rates lower. Is the pool of "qualified" candidates growing or are more "under-qualified" candidates applying.

It strikes me that a lot of it is the universal college application. The application fee is the only thing holding prospective students back from the shotgun approach.
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so there were 47,450 applicants this year, I tried to find how many applicants there were "way back when", so far the best data I have found was for the class of '78, that class had 8,025 people apply with a 31% acceptance rate (which would be ~2,490 people) so the absolute number of acceptances (not enrolling students) is down ~18% and the number of applicants is up almost 500%.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeanders/2015/04/03/what-if-stanford-admitted-31-a-journey-back-to-the-1970s/#12af111983d0

Mick also posted in another thread

Here's a press release from 1996, the first year Stanford offered early acceptance.  Yield went up to 61.4% from 55.1% the prior year. There were 16,539 applications in 1996.  The record until that time was 17,652 in 1985.

https://news.stanford.edu/pr/96/960605classcentu.html



Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - JJJ - 03-31-2018

Here's the piece from the Daily.
I think there are way more qualified kids (both internationally and domestically) that are less "put off" by the thought of applying than in years past (i.e. "why not me?").

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2018/03/30/university-admission-rate-drops-to-4-3-percent-for-class-of-2022/


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - yvonne - 03-31-2018

(03-31-2018, 08:51 AM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:  [quote author=winflop link=topic=18942.msg227045#msg227045 date=1522496971]
I struggle to figure out what is driving these rates lower. Is the pool of "qualified" candidates growing or are more "under-qualified" candidates applying.

It strikes me that a lot of it is the universal college application. The application fee is the only thing holding prospective students back from the shotgun approach.
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Don't forget that Stanford, the Ivies, MIT, Chicago, and many other top schools accept the Coalition app and offer fee waivers. Today's students have very few obstacles to applying to multiple schools.


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - Farm93 - 04-01-2018

On Friday, the hunt for new led me to Stanford Admissions Office twitter site and from there I was just a click or two away from Youtube.

Pretty amazing to see that many HS kids now document their decision letters.  Lots more seem willing to post their acceptance highlights, but a few brave kids actually document their whole experience.

Seems quite normal for many of these kids to apply to 20 or even 30 schools.  I am picking one to just illustrate how easily they move from one school to the next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks__iiRdOJ0

For those unwilling to watch, she applied to 24 schools.  Was rejected by UCLA, UCB, Stanford and others.  Was waitlisted at NYU, UCI, UCD and GW.  And was accepted to USC, UCSD and a number of others.

As I have kids entering HS it will be great to preview the process.  The stress of clicking through seems like a massive burden, but does make it easier to document (and edit) the decision moments.

FWIW1 - It became clear to me watching some of those posts that USC still informs applicants by mail.
FWIW2 - A few schools provide a link to reveal the decision, but even before a student goes to the site a school might send them invitations to join the admit information website, blog, group, etc. 
FWIW3 - There are quite a few on Youtube that actually get accepted to Stanford.  Those are cool.  I wish I had a video of that moment in my life.


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - washingtonismoney - 04-01-2018

Liked this member of the class of '22: https://twitter.com/luis_jones_/status/979861965706223616


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - norcard - 04-01-2018

Good to see stuff like this

https://twitter.com/DonteT42/status/980006542832472065


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - JeffInCorvallis - 04-01-2018

My daughter is in the 4.3%.

She has been accepted at other schools and they've thrown money at her in the form of various academic and Presidential scholarships. Stanford's financial aid offer is paltry in comparison. I understand that Stanford is needs-based, and we do OK, but we are not one percenters. Is there any secret to negotiating with the Financial Aid office?


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - BostonCard - 04-02-2018

Congrats Jeff (and, more importantly, JeffDaughter!)

BC


Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - norcard - 04-02-2018

(04-01-2018, 09:04 PM)JeffInCorvallis link Wrote:  My daughter is in the 4.3%.

She has been accepted at other schools and they've thrown money at her in the form of various academic and Presidential scholarships. Stanford's financial aid offer is paltry in comparison. I understand that Stanford is needs-based, and we do OK, but we are not one percenters. Is there any secret to negotiating with the Financial Aid office?

The only way is to examine how they calculated need and see if they are taking into account an asset they should not be.  Otherwise, you can only negotiate with a better need based offer from a competing private school



Re: Time to Welcome the Class of 2022 - Mick - 04-02-2018

(04-02-2018, 11:05 AM)norcard link Wrote:  [quote author=JeffInCorvallis link=topic=18942.msg227137#msg227137 date=1522641887]
My daughter is in the 4.3%.

She has been accepted at other schools and they've thrown money at her in the form of various academic and Presidential scholarships. Stanford's financial aid offer is paltry in comparison. I understand that Stanford is needs-based, and we do OK, but we are not one percenters. Is there any secret to negotiating with the Financial Aid office?

The only way is to examine how they calculated need and see if they are taking into account an asset they should not be.  Otherwise, you can only negotiate with a better need based offer from a competing private school
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If you are underserved in the first round, so to speak, I would appeal and argue circumstances.  Worked for me.