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Womens Water Polo - Stanford vs. U.SC for the NC on Sunday - Spiny_Norman - 05-12-2018

#2 Stanford defeated #3 C.al today 11-7 in the semifinals of the women's water polo NCAAs.

The perennial matchup for the national championship - Stanford vs. U.SC. This will be the 5th time in the past 9 years that the schools have played for the NC. U.SC leads in those matchups 3-1, including the epic 5OT match in 2013.

The match tomorrow is at 3 pm pacific and will be played at U.SC's home pool, a big advantage for them. It can be streamed online at ncaa.com.  But if you are in the LA area, join me in person. Stanford needs to hear from us tomorrow.

RE: Womens Water Polo - Stanford vs. U.SC for the NC on Sunday - Viking_Guy - 05-13-2018

1-1 at halftime, and I’m thinking uncharitable thoughts about the officiating. The toejams’ only goal was off an offensive foul called against Stanford in transition, which Jovan seems to coach better than anyone in the world. Almost all of the $c chances have been direct results of officiating.

VG


(05-12-2018, 06:27 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:  #2 Stanford defeated #3 C.al today 11-7 in the semifinals of the women's water polo NCAAs.

The perennial matchup for the national championship - Stanford vs. U.SC. This will be the 5th time in the past 9 years that the schools have played for the NC. U.SC leads in those matchups 3-1, including the epic 5OT match in 2013.

The match tomorrow is at 3 pm pacific and will be played at U.SC's home pool, a big advantage for them. It can be streamed online at ncaa.com.  But if you are in the LA area, join me in person. Stanford needs to hear from us tomorrow.
3-3 heading to the fourth. $c scored with 2.8 seconds left on a (deserved) power play, but Stanford has shown no confidence in their outside shots tonight. Reminds me of WBB against a zone.  Jovan has a yellow, so he’s working the refs as normal.

VG


(05-13-2018, 03:35 PM)Viking_Guy Wrote:  1-1 at halftime, and I’m thinking uncharitable thoughts about the officiating. The toejams’ only goal was off an offensive foul called against Stanford in transition, which Jovan seems to coach better than anyone in the world. Almost all of the $c chances have been direct results of officiating.

VG


(05-12-2018, 06:27 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:  #2 Stanford defeated #3 C.al today 11-7 in the semifinals of the women's water polo NCAAs.

The perennial matchup for the national championship - Stanford vs. U.SC. This will be the 5th time in the past 9 years that the schools have played for the NC. U.SC leads in those matchups 3-1, including the epic 5OT match in 2013.

The match tomorrow is at 3 pm pacific and will be played at U.SC's home pool, a big advantage for them. It can be streamed online at ncaa.com.  But if you are in the LA area, join me in person. Stanford needs to hear from us tomorrow.
5-4 Toejams in the final.  Stanford could muster very little offense, and everything hinged on what calls were made and not.  $C's winning goal was enabled by a Trojan hooking up two Cardinal players at their end of the pool in transition, leaving Stanford scrambling a player down on defense and a lane for the shot.

Stanford had two great chances late, but in the first, the pass was late, behind a driver who had gotten in front of her defender inside of 4 meters, and in the other, Dudley couldn't control a pass one-on-one vs the keeper for what should have been an easy stuff shot that would've tied the game with about 1:20 left. And then Stanford's last chance was snuffed by an offensive foul call.

I do reiterate my earlier statement, however; $C is the best-coached team in the country when it comes to getting fouls called and not getting called for them.

VG

RE: Womens Water Polo - Stanford vs. U.SC for the NC on Sunday - PVTree - 05-13-2018

Ugh! That was our best chance for another national championship this year. We still have a shot in WTennis and perhaps baseball, but those are much tougher to get. The polar Bears still have a good shot at softball.

It'd be great to end the school year ahead of them.

RE: Womens Water Polo - Stanford vs. U.SC for the NC on Sunday - Spiny_Norman - 05-13-2018

(05-13-2018, 03:35 PM)Viking_Guy Wrote:  $C is the best-coached team in the country when it comes to getting fouls called and not getting called for them.

I was at the match and it was a war. The most egregious example of the officiating was in the 1st half. U.SC's ball. The girl in the 2 meter spot was battling for position with a Stanford defender. The T.rojan pulled down her own suit to expose her breast and flash the crowd and drew an exclusion on Stanford. Stanford was able to stop that 6 on 5 fortunately. But you could tell what kind of an afternoon Stanford was in for.

RE: Womens Water Polo - Stanford vs. U.SC for the NC on Sunday - Viking_Guy - 05-13-2018

Spiny--

The thing that always gets me in watching us play Jovan-coached sides, men's or women's, is the extraordinary number of offensive fouls they get called on the opposition in transition.  They generate a ton of "turnovers" that way, and it was also intriguing to me that the official calling the majority of them was on the side where she had to listen to him.  It feels like if they feel they are caught out of position, to swim up someone's legs and then flail backwards to simulate being kicked.

The first goal for $C felt like exactly that - an offensive foul called by the referee on the coaches' side of the pool, with Stanford breaking out in transition, which turned a 5 on 3 breakout by Stanford into a 3 on 1 chance for $C on a referee's whistle.

VG



(05-13-2018, 05:07 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:  
(05-13-2018, 03:35 PM)Viking_Guy Wrote:  $C is the best-coached team in the country when it comes to getting fouls called and not getting called for them.

I was at the match and it was a war. The most egregious example of the officiating was in the 1st half. U.SC's ball. The girl in the 2 meter spot was battling for position with a Stanford defender. The T.rojan pulled down her own suit to expose her breast and flash the crowd and drew an exclusion on Stanford. Stanford was able to stop that 6 on 5 fortunately. But you could tell what kind of an afternoon Stanford was in for.


RE: Womens Water Polo - Stanford vs. U.SC for the NC on Sunday - d4cohn - 05-13-2018

(05-13-2018, 04:50 PM)PVTree Wrote:  Ugh! That was our best chance for another national championship this year. We still have a shot in WTennis and perhaps baseball, but those are much tougher to get. The polar Bears still have a good shot at softball.

It'd be great to end the school year ahead of them.

Despite being the No.3 overall seed in softball, UCLA will not win the national championship. They have one solid ace, and no rotation behind her, while teams like Oregon or Florida have 2-3 aces than are even better than UCLA's #1.

RE: Womens Water Polo - Stanford vs. U.SC for the NC on Sunday - Spiny_Norman - 05-14-2018

It is not clear from the scoresheet, but the gostanford story on the game says that Stanford was called for 11 offensive fouls. Ridiculous.

Coach Tanner being diplomatic in post match comments - "I don't think we have ever been called for that many offensive fouls in a game."

https://soundcloud.com/gostanford/ncaa-final-vs-usc-postgame-john-tanner-katie-dudley-julia-hermann-51318