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Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - cardcrimson - 09-29-2018
So far this season, we've only scored 7 points on an opening drive. Only a TD against SC in the second game. Why do we insist on getting the ball first. Now, ND has a chance to put 14 straight points on the board. I don't get it. And never have.
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - JPR36 - 09-29-2018
(09-29-2018, 06:23 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: So far, we've score 7 points on an opening drive. Only a TD against SC in the second game. Why. Now, ND has a chance to put 14 straight points on the board. I don't get it. And never have.
I've wondered the same thing for years. I've given up. Never really heard a good explanation for it, but it just seems to be the way Shaw likes to operate.
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - BobK - 09-29-2018
Sometimes the other team lets the coin toss win and they defer
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - JPR36 - 09-29-2018
(09-29-2018, 06:29 PM)BobK Wrote: Sometimes the other team lets the coin toss win and they defer
Yeah, but even when we win the toss we take the ball.
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - BostonCard - 09-29-2018
My guess is that this is because Shaw views the team as better operating with a lead than Shaw has said he likes to take the first drive because he likes to put
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - franky - 09-29-2018
(09-29-2018, 06:23 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Help me understand whyWinner of the coin toss has 2 options:
Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick
1. Receive kickoff, or
2. Choose goal to defend
99 times/100 the correct call is to choose the goal to defend. Mainly due to environmental factors, e.g. sun angle, wind direction, etc.
When coin toss winner decides which goal to defend, the other team usually chooses to receive.
Which means Stanford, more often than not, lose the opening coin toss.
When announcers say the team chose to "defer", it's mainly due to ignorance of the protocols
Hope this helps
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - BostonCard - 09-29-2018
That is incorrect.
The coin winning team can chose whether to kick or receive or which goal to defend, or they can defer the choice to the second half. In theory, it is possible for a team to receive the kickoff to start both halves, but since possession is so much more important than field, in practice, if the coin winner wants to get the ball to start the second half, it defers, the coin loser elects to receive. Nobody ever elects which goal to receive the first half.
Although most coin winners elect to defer, Stanford elects to receive even when it wins the toss. So it means that 9 times in 10, we will receive the opening kick off.
BC
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - murky - 09-29-2018
People used to complain when we deferred. You can't please everyone.
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - d4cohn - 09-29-2018
Aside from wanting to potentially set the tone on offense first, Coach Shaw also prefers to receive the opening kick in the hopes of "stealing" an extra possession over our opponent before halftime. We were able to get that extra possession today; granted, we did absolutely nothing with it (in part because we had burned 2 TO's on our last TD drive), but the extra "stolen" possession before the end of the first half against SDSU led to a crucial TD that gave us the lead going into half.
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - BostonCard - 09-29-2018
(09-29-2018, 09:55 PM)d4cohn Wrote: Aside from wanting to potentially set the tone on offense first, Coach Shaw also prefers to receive the opening kick in the hopes of "stealing" an extra possession over our opponent before halftime. We were able to get that extra possession today; granted, we did absolutely nothing with it (in part because we had burned 2 TO's on our last TD drive), but the extra "stolen" possession before the end of the first half against SDSU led to a crucial TD that gave us the lead going into half.
Also against USC, we got a touchdown just before the half to make it a 14-0 game.
BC
RE: Help me understand why we always receive the opening kick. - Mick - 10-01-2018
Here's Saban's opinion vs. Petrino's opinion on what to do with the coin toss results:
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/scoring-drives-show-coin-toss-may-prove-especially-important-for-louisville-alabama/