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Golf Recruiting - Hulk01 - 06-20-2019

College destinations of top ten players, by Rolex Junior rank

Men
Stanford
Stanford
Texas
Alabama
Pepperdine
Vanderbilt
Florida
Vanderbilt
Florida
Oklahoma

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RE: Golf Recruiting - GK3 - 06-20-2019

(06-20-2019, 05:12 AM)Hulk01 Wrote:  College destinations of top ten players, by Rolex Junior rank

Men
Stanford
Stanford
Texas
Alabama
Pepperdine
Vanderbilt
Florida
Vanderbilt
Florida
Oklahoma

With Wu and Salinda gone, how do you see the top 5 on the team next year?

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RE: Golf Recruiting - Spiny_Norman - 06-20-2019

College destinations of top 10 women's golfers on the Rolex AJGA rankings.

1. Stanford
2. uncommitted
3. Pepperdine
4. Duke
5. USC
6. uncommitted (Lucy Li)
7. Texas
8. Virginia
9. Stanford
10. Stanford

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RE: Golf Recruiting - Hulk01 - 06-20-2019

Snyder
Shimp
Tualabayev
Nate Menon
Fred Lee

This looks like a team that will struggle,
boosted next fall by Vilips and Thornbjornen.

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RE: Golf Recruiting - BobK - 06-20-2019

For the women’s team

https://mobile.twitter.com/stanfordwgolf/status/1141737622017986560

Seems like a major loss of our assistant

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RE: Golf Recruiting - winflop - 06-21-2019

(06-20-2019, 07:54 PM)BobK Wrote:  
For the women’s team

https://mobile.twitter.com/stanfordwgolf/status/1141737622017986560

Seems like a major loss of our assistant

When someone leaves to "pursue other career options" that can mean they "didn't leave voluntarily." Absent knowing what she's doing next it's hard to infer what's behind her departure - unless you have some inside knowledge Bob

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RE: Golf Recruiting - BobK - 06-21-2019

Only thing I know is a year ago she was assistant coach of the year

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RE: Golf Recruiting - Hulk01 - 06-21-2019

A decent guess is that she really is considering something
outside college golf coaching.
The game of golf has been struggling,
at least in this country,
searching for ways to draw more people to the game;
An indicator: Each of my three boys owns a good set of clubs,
and none of them play--ever.
And my middle son left his young career in the sport--
apprenticing on the development of Bandon Dunes and Old McDonald, among other courses--
because he became convinced American didn't need more golf courses;
he needed fewer of them,

The PGA and Tour came to me a dozen years ago for my suggestions,
one of which was adopted in the Play Nine initiative.
But, as I stressed, far more is needed.

Our now former assistant coach is smart
to look for a career outside the sport.

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RE: Golf Recruiting - slide - 06-23-2019

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RE: Golf Recruiting - Hulk01 - 06-23-2019

I also recommended the use of forecaddies, and a way to make them zero-cost,
to eliminate the time searching for lost balls and to enforce speed of play.

Heartily agree with you, Slide.  
Almost all of my recommendations dealt with speed of play.
I told them they cannot market golf into greater popularity;
they have to change it.

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RE: Golf Recruiting - slide - 06-23-2019

on lost balls, a friend is trying to pursue a cheap chip/GPS solution on each golf ball and link it to personal phone.  probably not too far off.  manufacturers I suspect would oppose such an invention (or at least initially).  

and good on you for trying to improve pace of play.  it is certainly needed.

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RE: Golf Recruiting - GK3 - 06-23-2019

(06-23-2019, 04:02 AM)Hulk01 Wrote:  I also recommended the use of forecaddies, and a way to make them zero-cost,
to eliminate the time searching for lost balls and to enforce speed of play.

Heartily agree with you, Slide.  
Almost all of my recommendations dealt with speed of play.
I told them they cannot market golf into greater popularity;
they have to change it.

Forecaddies are a great idea. 

 It seems to me that too many new courses are simply too difficult for most golfers to play in 3 or 3.5 hours.  Narrow holes, blind shots, with not much rough between the fairway and the "you can't find it or play it territory", often results in foursomes spending twenty minutes on a hole just looking for each other's balls.  They seldom if ever hit a provisional and have only a vague idea where their ball came to rest because the location is not visible from the tee box.
Unfortunately, you do not see course personnel trying to speed up play by warning groups to pick up play, particularly on courses which are a part of resorts and not always an easy course.  When people buy airline tickets, hotel rooms, meals and fork over $100 per round or more, they seem to think they have bought their round, no matter how long it takes.  Unfortunately, they are not often disabused of that notion.  The matter is further complicated by many people playing from the wrong tees and thus making the course even harder.

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RE: Golf Recruiting - Hulk01 - 06-23-2019

My recommendations detailed how forecaddies
would increase revenue, increase demand, increase repeat play--
and cost virtually net nothing.

Also laid out a pretty cool tv campaign, called "That Moment."
Chances are that most of the avid golfers reading this
know just what "that moment" means.

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RE: Golf Recruiting - BobK - 06-24-2019

Our new women’s assistant

https://gostanford.com/news/2019/6/24/sheils-joins-womens-golf.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=commpost_2019-06-24_1A2SCS&utm_campaign=womensgolf_otherpd_otherp__

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RE: Golf Recruiting - Spiny_Norman - 06-24-2019

(06-24-2019, 09:38 AM)BobK Wrote:  Our new women’s assistant

https://gostanford.com/news/2019/6/24/sheils-joins-womens-golf.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=commpost_2019-06-24_1A2SCS&utm_campaign=womensgolf_otherpd_otherp__

A philosophy major who was a 4 time Academic All American should understand the Stanford environment.

A bit more in her own words - http://www.madeleinesheils.com/blog/january-update-saying-farewell-to-life-on-tour

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RE: Golf Recruiting - Mick - 07-12-2019

(06-23-2019, 07:19 AM)GK3 Wrote:   It seems to me that too many new courses are simply too difficult for most golfers to play in 3 or 3.5 hours.  Narrow holes, blind shots, with not much rough between the fairway and the "you can't find it or play it territory", often results in foursomes spending twenty minutes on a hole just looking for each other's balls.  They seldom if ever hit a provisional and have only a vague idea where their ball came to rest because the location is not visible from the tee box.
Unfortunately, you do not see course personnel trying to speed up play by warning groups to pick up play, particularly on courses which are a part of resorts and not always an easy course.  When people buy airline tickets, hotel rooms, meals and fork over $100 per round or more, they seem to think they have bought their round, no matter how long it takes.  Unfortunately, they are not often disabused of that notion.  The matter is further complicated by many people playing from the wrong tees and thus making the course even harder.

...like our friend Judge Smails...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5u7yZiV3bI

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RE: Golf Recruiting - SF_Cardinal_Fan - 07-16-2019

I think golf suffering from lack of participation is mostly due to people getting frustrated from duffing shots, looking for balls all day, shooting high scores etc...
The major organizations within golf, such as the USGA, R&A, PGA of America, PGA Tour, Callaway, Taylor Made, Ping etc....would serve the game best by working together to promote golf technique instruction and practice.

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RE: Golf Recruiting - martyup - 07-16-2019

(07-16-2019, 06:15 PM)SF_Cardinal_Fan Wrote:  I think golf suffering from lack of participation is mostly due to people getting frustrated from duffing shots, looking for balls all day, shooting high scores etc...
The major organizations within golf, such as the USGA, R&A, PGA of America, PGA Tour, Callaway, Taylor Made, Ping etc....would serve the game best by working together to promote golf technique instruction and practice.

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RE: Golf Recruiting - winflop - 07-16-2019

(07-16-2019, 06:15 PM)SF_Cardinal_Fan Wrote:  I think golf suffering from lack of participation is mostly due to people getting frustrated from duffing shots, looking for balls all day, shooting high scores etc...
The major organizations within golf, such as the USGA, R&A, PGA of America, PGA Tour, Callaway, Taylor Made, Ping etc....would serve the game best by working together to promote golf technique instruction and practice.

Even crappy players can play relatively quickly. Delays don't happen as much from taking too many strokes as they do from slow play (too many practice swings, reading putts from every angle, not hitting provisional balls, leaving clubs/bags on the wrong side of greens, etc.)

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RE: Golf Recruiting - SF_Cardinal_Fan - 07-16-2019

(07-16-2019, 07:01 PM)winflop Wrote:  

(07-16-2019, 06:15 PM)SF_Cardinal_Fan Wrote:  I think golf suffering from lack of participation is mostly due to people getting frustrated from duffing shots, looking for balls all day, shooting high scores etc...
The major organizations within golf, such as the USGA, R&A, PGA of America, PGA Tour, Callaway, Taylor Made, Ping etc....would serve the game best by working together to promote golf technique instruction and practice.

Even crappy players can play relatively quickly. Delays don't happen as much from taking too many strokes as they do from slow play (too many practice swings, reading putts from every angle, not hitting provisional balls, leaving clubs/bags on the wrong side of greens, etc.)

I understand that pace of play is often cited as a reason for a decline of golf play participation. Another common suggested culprit is expense.
But my observation is that lack of skill is likely the most significant reason. Consider this, 20 years ago Tiger's celebrity caused a large number of people to buy sets of golf clubs and try golf. But the majority of those newcomers soon became frustrated with their inability to strike respectable golf shots, so they put those clubs in the garage and chose instead other leisure time pursuits.
Regarding the OP's subject , for decades Oklahoma State has consistently recruited and signed players who went on to have successful Tour playing careers.

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