Preseason Honors (gostanford.com) -
JJJ - 07-16-2019
Quite a few of them!
https://gostanford.com/news/2019/6/18/athletics-football-watch-list-template.aspx
RE: Preseason Honors (gostanford.com) -
OutsiderFan - 07-16-2019
As y'all know by now, my rule of thumb is it takes 8+ guys being first + second team all conference to win a Pac-12 championship. Assuming the projections for Stanford guys to be on the team are true, there are just 6, indicating Stanford won't win the Pac-12:
Adebo
Booker
Costello
Little
Parkinson
Toner
Jordan Fox is projected as a 3rd/4h team All-Pac-12 by Steele/Athlon. So are Cam Scarlett and Jovan Swann.
Will one or more push themselves into a 1st or 2nd team position to make Stanford a conference contender? Who might be the 7th, 8th guy, or even 9th and 10th who steps up and gives Stanford the performance needed to win the Pac-12?
Given I think Stanford will throw the ball as much as in 2018, and that Costello is projected to be so good, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Osiris St. Brown steps up and has a breakout year. I also think Foster Sarell should be at least one of the 10 best OL in the conference in order to live up to his recruiting profile.
RE: Preseason Honors (gostanford.com) -
SamuelMcF - 07-16-2019
(07-16-2019, 01:03 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: As y'all know by now, my rule of thumb is it takes 8+ guys being first + second team all conference to win a Pac-12 championship. Assuming the projections for Stanford guys to be on the team are true, there are just 6, indicating Stanford won't win the Pac-12:
Adebo
Booker
Costello
Little
Parkinson
Toner
Jordan Fox is projected as a 3rd/4h team All-Pac-12 by Steele/Athlon. So are Cam Scarlett and Jovan Swann.
Will one or more push themselves into a 1st or 2nd team position to make Stanford a conference contender? Who might be the 7th, 8th guy, or even 9th and 10th who steps up and gives Stanford the performance needed to win the Pac-12?
Given I think Stanford will throw the ball as much as in 2018, and that Costello is projected to be so good, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Osiris St. Brown steps up and has a breakout year. I also think Foster Sarell should be at least one of the 10 best OL in the conference in order to live up to his recruiting profile.
On defense: Casey Toohill not being listed at all is
borderline criminal, and both Mike Williams and DWP should play well enough to be listed (over Swann). Andres Fox is gonna cause some serious havoc as a pass rusher. If Malik Antoine takes any sort of step forward at safety I'll be secure with that spot. (He wasn't the weak link in last year's secondary.)
On offense: At least one of Wedington/Wilson/Fehoko will also break out (Wedington and Wilson my prime 2 candidates over St. Brown, TBH). Hopefully multiple. The young receiver corps is too damn talented. And don't count Hamilton out on the OL.
Tucker Fisk might be the best run blocker on the entire team.
RE: Preseason Honors (gostanford.com) -
OutsiderFan - 07-16-2019
Ya, Andres Fox, Casey Toohill, and Gabe Reid are kind of the keys to the season, IMO. If those guys can generate a consistent outside rush, the defense might be good enough against the pass to contend.
For those unaware, Stanford's Rush Defense was actually sneaky better than you think in 2018. They finished #6 in the Pac-12, with 3.99 YPC allowed. Think the experienced DL can help continue the trend.
So if that pass rush does improve, the Defense could maybe be good?
RE: Preseason Honors (gostanford.com) -
martyup - 07-16-2019
It's a "preseason" list. If we win the conference there will surely be more than 6 getting "real" all-conference honors. We're not projected to win the Pac-12, so . . .
RE: Preseason Honors (gostanford.com) -
CTcard - 07-18-2019
(07-16-2019, 01:28 PM)martyup Wrote: It's a "preseason" list. If we win the conference there will surely be more than 6 getting "real" all-conference honors. We're not projected to win the Pac-12, so . . .
A good point I think.
It is just as possible that winning the conference gets you 8+ all conference players as one needs 8+ all conference players to win the conference.
[And that is my moment of Zen for the day.]