Trivia - Andy Messersmith -
lex24 - 07-24-2019
Phogge’s ability to bunt led me to take a look at Messersmith ‘s career. 2.861 career ERA. Sixth lowest among starting pitchers in the Post dead ball era, beginning in 1920.
Who are the 5 ahead of him?
I knew Messersmith was good. I didn’t know he was THAT good.
RE: Trivia - Andy Messersmith -
Phogge - 07-24-2019
(07-24-2019, 05:35 PM)lex24 Wrote: Phogge’s ability to bunt led me to take a look at Messersmith ‘s career. 2.861 career ERA. Sixth lowest among starting pitchers in the Post dead ball era, beginning in 1920.
Who are the 5 ahead of him?
I knew Messersmith was good. I didn’t know he was THAT good.
Koufax, Spahn, Marichal, Newhouser and Kershaw. But there were guys who straddled the era like Walter Johnson so I guess you mean guys who broke in after 1920. However if I HAD to win a game and do it with guys I saw pitch I would take Allie Reynolds.
BTW, I singled off Andy in another at bat but lost 6-5 in ten innings.
RE: Trivia - Andy Messersmith -
BobK - 07-24-2019
Koufax
Gibson
Kershaw
Ford
Clemons
Must win game? Ford or Gibson
lex24 -
lex24 - 07-24-2019
Kershaw Koufax and Ford are correct. 2 more. Both surprised me. One pitched forever. The other was part os a famous AL starting staff
RE: Trivia - Andy Messersmith -
Phogge - 07-25-2019
Palmer?
The guy who pitched forever could be Wilhelm but he was a reliever for most of his career. Fascinating new book, “History of baseball in ten pitches” has a good section on Hoyt and the knuckler.
RE: Trivia - Andy Messersmith -
BobK - 07-25-2019
Palmer or the Stanford connection McNally.
Yes I’ll go with Hoyt.
lex24 -
lex24 - 07-25-2019
Wilhelm and Palmer it is. And I agree Phogge, primarily a reliever. I blame Wikipedia.
RE: Trivia - Andy Messersmith -
BobK - 07-26-2019
Hoyt started just 52 games. I guess far more late in his career
Hoyt holds two major league records what are they ?
RE: Trivia - Andy Messersmith -
Phogge - 07-26-2019
Most games for a pitcher? Homered in first at bat and never again?
RE: Trivia - Andy Messersmith -
BobK - 07-26-2019
Hoyt homered in his first at bat then the most ABs never homered again. About 430 ABs
Hoyt won more games in relief than any other pitcher in history and still holds record