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WVB: Wins Big Spike - FarmBoy - 11-30-2019

Very balanced team win with 4 players having double digit kills. Holly Campbell's offense is coming alive at the right time of year. It looks like Plummer's long time off the court may have helped the team develop a stronger identity beyond "set it to KP whenever possible." It also helps that Megan McClure contributes in every possible way (kills, blocks, digs, service). Jenna Gray's joust game at the net is consistently superior, winning jousts against much bigger middle blockers. It's gotta be the javelin throwing, right? We are so going to miss Hentz next year. She's gotta be worth 2+ games per set compared to any other libero. Gates and Gray seem to finally be on the same page on offense as well.

They may be the #3 ranked team in the country, but I'd be surprised if they're not the favorite to win it. It's going to be a fun run.

RE: WVB: Wins Big Spike - BobK - 11-30-2019

Plus a great tribute post game to the Srs on Srs night. Also they all spoke to the crowd

Sunday on espn2 at 5:30 pt the seedlings are announced. Thinking or hoping we are 2 or 3 and host the next two weekends

Crowed last night was just shy of 5,000

RE: WVB: Wins Big Spike - FarmBoy - 11-30-2019

(11-30-2019, 07:57 AM)BobK Wrote:  Plus a great tribute post game to the Srs on Srs night.  Also they all spoke to the crowd

Sunday on espn2 at 5:30 pt the seedlings are announced.  Thinking or hoping we are 2 or 3 and host the next two weekends

Crowed last night was just shy of 5,000

Does the seeding matter as long as you're in the top 4 and get to host?

Any insight into why the Pac 12 doesn't do a conference tournament? I see that some other conferences hold them.

RE: WVB: Wins Big Spike - Farm93 - 11-30-2019

(11-30-2019, 08:03 AM)FarmBoy Wrote:  Does the seeding matter as long as you're in the top 4 and get to host? 

Any insight into why the Pac 12 doesn't do a conference tournament? I see that some other conferences hold them.

2 or 3 allows a team to avoid the top overall seed as long as possible.   In this case, I don't think it matters as a healthy Stanford squad is certainly capable of beating any other team in the tournament.   #4 also runs the risk of losing to the, normally highly motivated, #5 overall.

The Pac-12 barely can justify the MBB and WBB tournaments, very hard to see the value of a conference tournament for WVB.   Those tournaments often put athletes into back-to-back-to-back game situations they don't see throughout the year, which can lead to injuries and ailments just as the NCAA tournament begins.  

And even if the event was needed as a gimmick to generate conference interest, where would the event be held?   Would Pac-12 fans would travel by air to the event?  Especially when ~half of the universities are hosting rivalry football games that same weekend, and most of the rest would have alums more likely travel to the road rivalry game than fly to a WVB tournament.

RE: WVB: Wins Big Spike - BobK - 11-30-2019

The coaches decided to play 20 league games which doesn’t leave time for a tournament
Basketball coaches decided on 18 league games leaving time for the tournament or in this case continuing the tournament
All coaches prefer as many non league Gabe’s as possible
Yes I would go if a wvb tournament

There appear to be 9 very good teams this year so a 2 playing a 7 isn’t much different than a 4 playing a 5

RE: WVB: Wins Big Spike - oldalum - 11-30-2019

P12 basketball first adopted a tournament because the partial explanation for our poor NCAA performances was that we were soft and the other league's tournaments were seen as toughening up the teams for the NCAAs. It didn't help so we discontinued it. The top teams don't want it because it generally doesn't help them, can only hurt them. But teams that might be on the wrong side of the bubble want it because it's a chance to get into the NCAAs if they get hot, and the bottom few teams want it for more game experience. The top teams continued to veto restoring the tournament until UCLA became just a middling-to-poor team and UCLA changed its vote, which is why we got it again.

As we are usually the #1 or 2 W volleyball team in the Pac-12, the tournament wouldn't help us, only hurt us. Same thing for W Soccer.

Other considerations:  Money: the basketball tournament might be a money-maker -- I don't know -- but a volleyball tournament wouldn't. 
Conference tournaments can be seen as devaluing the regular conference season.