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Scooter Harrington in the portal - Austroturf - 12-09-2019

#80 decides to grad transfer.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - Phogge - 12-09-2019

Weather getting worse in Copenhagen.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019

I think it's important to note which transfers are "sky is falling" transfers (Swann and Williams) and "yeah, makes sense" transfers (everyone else).

This is in the latter category. 3rd-string TE behind two younger players. Wonder if this indicates Park might be coming back.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - Austroturf - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 04:34 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  I think it's important to note which transfers are "sky is falling" transfers (Swann and Williams) and "yeah, makes sense" transfers (everyone else).

This is in the latter category. 3rd-string TE behind two younger players. Wonder if this indicates Park might be coming back.

I agree that this is one of those "makes sense" transfers.  He probably wasn't going to fulfill his dreams at Stanford, so he is looking for greener pastures.  That said, could he have been better?  Did Stanford recruit the wrong guy or did he simply not develop?  Back in 2017, he had a good catch in his collegiate debut against Rice and a few more that season.  But he never lived up to his size and billing.  What went wrong?  Coby Fleener was also a 3-star recruit and became a legendary member of Tight-End U.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 04:52 PM)Austroturf Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 04:34 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  I think it's important to note which transfers are "sky is falling" transfers (Swann and Williams) and "yeah, makes sense" transfers (everyone else).

This is in the latter category. 3rd-string TE behind two younger players. Wonder if this indicates Park might be coming back.

I agree that this is one of those "makes sense" transfers.  He probably wasn't going to fulfill his dreams at Stanford, so he is looking for greener pastures.  That said, could he have been better?  Did Stanford recruit the wrong guy or did he simply not develop?  Back in 2017, he had a good catch in his collegiate debut against Rice and a few more that season.  But he never lived up to his size and billing.  What went wrong?  Coby Fleener was also a 3-star recruit and became a legendary member of Tight-End U.

I dunno man, I dunno. Felt a little like he was the odd man out of our "main" 3 TEs this year. Couldn't catch or run routes like Park, and couldn't block like Fisk. (Park also got better at blocking but Fisk loves mauling people.)

Austin Hooper was a more recent 3* TE recruit to blow up. And I'm hoping Fisk, Bradley Archer, and the two high-3* guys we have committed in '20, Ungar and Yurosek, will follow his footsteps more closely than Harrington's or Greg Taboada's.

Although I'm REALLY hoping Fisk moves to DE if Park comes back. We can use Jay Symonds as a depth TE/H-back. He has soft hands and some blocking chops. Plus the entire WR corps is coming back (with more reinforcements!) and we'll likely be spreading it around again anyways.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - winflop - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 05:02 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  Although I'm REALLY hoping Fisk moves to DE if Park comes back. We can use Jay Symonds as a depth TE/H-back. He has soft hands and some blocking chops.

Fisk is a devastating blocker and this past season showed he has good hands. Not sure if he can get open downfield though.

I'm also skeptical of switching from TE to DE in your final season. Didn't we try that recently with a couple of players? IIRC it didn't work out very well.

With the apparent lack of depth in next year's roster at several positions, I'm not a fan of moving people to different (new) positions.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 07:18 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 05:02 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  Although I'm REALLY hoping Fisk moves to DE if Park comes back. We can use Jay Symonds as a depth TE/H-back. He has soft hands and some blocking chops.

Fisk is a devastating blocker and this past season showed he has good hands. Not sure if he can get open downfield though.

I'm also skeptical of switching from TE to DE in your final season. Didn't we try that recently with a couple of players? IIRC it didn't work out very well.

With the apparent lack of depth in next year's roster at several positions, I'm not a fan of moving people to different (new) positions.

Eric Cotton switched a couple years ago and was fine. Not great, but fine. And FWIW Fisk still has 2 years of eligibility left.

Not that I disagree with your premise - moving people around generally isn't the best idea, especially older players.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - BostonCard - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 04:52 PM)Austroturf Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 04:34 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  I think it's important to note which transfers are "sky is falling" transfers (Swann and Williams) and "yeah, makes sense" transfers (everyone else).

This is in the latter category. 3rd-string TE behind two younger players. Wonder if this indicates Park might be coming back.

I agree that this is one of those "makes sense" transfers.  He probably wasn't going to fulfill his dreams at Stanford, so he is looking for greener pastures.  That said, could he have been better?  Did Stanford recruit the wrong guy or did he simply not develop?  Back in 2017, he had a good catch in his collegiate debut against Rice and a few more that season.  But he never lived up to his size and billing.  What went wrong?  Coby Fleener was also a 3-star recruit and became a legendary member of Tight-End U.

He was stuck behind two guys who were the top ranked TE in their respective classes (Kaden Smith and Colby Parkinson), as we have moved towards a more wide receiver focused offense.

BC

(12-09-2019, 07:18 PM)winflop Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 05:02 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  Although I'm REALLY hoping Fisk moves to DE if Park comes back. We can use Jay Symonds as a depth TE/H-back. He has soft hands and some blocking chops.

Fisk is a devastating blocker and this past season showed he has good hands. Not sure if he can get open downfield though.

I'm also skeptical of switching from TE to DE in your final season. Didn't we try that recently with a couple of players? IIRC it didn't work out very well.

With the apparent lack of depth in next year's roster at several positions, I'm not a fan of moving people to different (new) positions.

On the plus side, Eric Cotton probably contributed more on the defensive line (30 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 3 sacks) than he would have at tight end (that year, we had sophomore Kaden Smith, senior Dalton Schultz, and freshman Colby Parkinson at tight end).

On the minus side, Luke Kaumatule never contributed much at either position (his career stats were 3 catches for 16 yards at TE, and 16 tackles, 2 TFLs and 1.5 sacks at DL).

BC


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - Phogge - 12-09-2019

Anybody know how many snaps Scooter played? Seemed like he was on the field a bunch although never a pass catching threat.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019

Luke Kaumatule was moved from TE to DE, then redshirted to move to OLB, then back to DE. The move to OLB made no sense and hindered his development, and I was furious since I know him personally. One of the nicest and most genuine people on the planet.

Harrington did play a non-negligible number of snaps, but IIRC it wasn't as many as you'd think. (Don't know the number off-hand.) Yes, he rarely ran routes.


RE: Scooter Harrington in the portal - BostonCard - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 04:34 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  I think it's important to note which transfers are "sky is falling" transfers (Swann and Williams) and "yeah, makes sense" transfers (everyone else).

This is in the latter category. 3rd-string TE behind two younger players. Wonder if this indicates Park might be coming back.

Here was my thought in the other thread (titled “recruiting seniors”)

The wishful thinking/glass half-full interpretation is that this is done with knowledge of Parkinson’s impending decision about the NFL. The realistic interpretation is that the two are unlinked, because the timeline for entering the portal is long before the timeline for going pro, and I doubt Parkinson is going to make any sort of decision before he gets an evaluation and feedback.

BC