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WBB: other scores. Baylor loses - mbdude - 03-08-2020

Baylor loses to iowa st 57 to 56
 2nd chance free throw with no time on clrock

NCST beats Fsu. May get a 2 seed over UCLA according to Creme


RE: WBB: other scores. Baylor loses - PVTree - 03-08-2020

Could we be in line for a 1-seed beating Oregon?

Hopefully, we can be at least the 2-seed in the non-SCar, non-Baylor, non-Dux bracket.


RE: WBB: other scores. Baylor loses - WBB fan - 03-08-2020

(03-08-2020, 01:43 PM)PVTree Wrote:  Could we be in line for a 1-seed beating Oregon?

Hopefully, we can be at least the 2-seed in the non-SCar, non-Baylor, non-Dux bracket.

I think most likely to be a 2 seed, probably even if beat Oregon. And if lose to them, I think we keep the 2 seed. As for the #1s, I think Baylor is likely to keep its #1, tho they may fall to the #3 or #4 position among the number 1s. As for placement, S Car is going to Greenville, Baylor to Dallas, and Ducks to Portland, about 99% likely since the NCAA really pushes geography for number 1s. That leave Ft. Wayne for the last #1. And if Louisville is still a number 2, they are highly likely to be sent to Ft Wayne because of geography. So that means that we'd be stuck with one of those you're hoping to avoid -- as are all the rest of us Card fans, I suspect. My analysis, for what it's worth, which may not be much.  I hope I'm wrong about much of this!


RE: WBB: other scores. Baylor loses - 2006alum - 03-08-2020

We can't be in the Ducks' part of the bracket due to seeding rules (no same-conference 1-2 pairs). So Portland is out.

South Carolina has already locked up a one seed and will go to Greenville. Per NCAA seeding rules, now that NC State won the ACC, they will get the two seed in Greenville, so that they can stay in driving distance as well.

Louisville will likely end up with the final one seed and go to Fort Wayne, because they are driving distance. NC State also can't end up there due to the same same-conference rule. There's also a chance Maryland ends up a one seed, in which case Fort Wayne is their closest. At that point, Louisville would likely be the number two there.

Baylor is also almost certainly a lock for the Dallas one seed. So that leaves us going to Dallas. (I suspect at this point UCLA will drop to a three seed and end up in Fort Wayne; at this point Stanford, NC State, Maryland/Louisville, and the Huskies all have strong claims to a two seed, and UCLA as the strongest three seed would balance out the weakest 1-2 pair of Maryland/Louisville). That would leave the Huskies to face the Ducks.

And if this is so, ISU gave Tara a gift -- several weeks to watch the film of how they toppled Baylor and prep our ladies to do the same. 

All of this assumes the tournament still happens as planned. As I've express elsewhere, color me skeptical, because we're still 11 days from the first games.


RE: WBB: other scores. Baylor loses - chimera - 03-08-2020

(03-08-2020, 03:31 PM)2006alum Wrote:  We can't be in the Ducks' part of the bracket due to seeding rules (no same-conference 1-2 pairs). So Portland is out.

South Carolina has already locked up a one seed and will go to Greenville. Per NCAA seeding rules, now that NC State won the ACC, they will get the two seed in Greenville, so that they can stay in driving distance as well.

Louisville will likely end up with the final one seed and go to Fort Wayne, because they are driving distance. NC State also can't end up there due to the same same-conference rule. There's also a chance Maryland ends up a one seed, in which case Fort Wayne is their closest. At that point, Louisville would likely be the number two there.

Baylor is also almost certainly a lock for the Dallas one seed. So that leaves us going to Dallas. (I suspect at this point UCLA will drop to a three seed and end up in Fort Wayne; at this point Stanford, NC State, Maryland/Louisville, and the Huskies all have strong claims to a two seed, and UCLA as the strongest three seed would balance out the weakest 1-2 pair of Maryland/Louisville). That would leave the Huskies to face the Ducks.

And if this is so, ISU gave Tara a gift -- several weeks to watch the film of how they toppled Baylor and prep our ladies to do the same. 

All of this assumes the tournament still happens as planned. As I've express elsewhere, color me skeptical, because we're still 11 days from the first games.

We could be in Portland because it is allowed to seed so that conference foes meet in the Elite Eight game, but not before (unless they changed the rules and I missed it).  But while that might be geographically preferable, it would not be great if we had to play Oregon a 4th time.  Things are so muddled the committee can do whatever they want and find a way to justify it.


RE: WBB: other scores. Baylor loses - 2006alum - 03-08-2020

Unless I'm misremembering, the bracketing rules are that teams from the same conference can't be placed in the same regional top 4 seeds unless and until there's more than 4, at which point there have to be two in one region. But I think the idea is that you would have a 2 and 4, or 1 and 3. Making Stanford and Oregon meet in the Elite Eight after three matchups is pretty unfair to everyone involved, which is why I am pretty sure they don't allow it.

Here's what Charlie Creme had to say about it: https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28824596/why-ncaa-committee-no-2-seed-uconn-portland-regional


RE: WBB: other scores. Baylor loses - chimera - 03-08-2020

Maybe they changed it because they used to be able to, and we should have 5 hosts - Oregon, UCLA, Stanford, UA, and OSU.  One of those could get hosed and get a 5 seed.  I do know that it was allowed to have teams face each other as long as not until the E8 game.  I don't want to go to Portland anyway.  Rather avoid Oregon, happy to have Baylor or whoever else is a #1 besides SC.