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Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - M T - 04-01-2020
We started experiencing a little thread drift in the Humor thread. I felt like the humor thread should be a place to go that is mostly light-hearted, so rather than further contribute to the drift, I chose to start a new thread.
The drift was about weight change during the isolation. I had been thinking about posting something, wondering whether other people were experiencing similar effects or not.
I too have lost 5-10 pounds, probably for the same reason as 82 card (lack of variety in my food preparation and the lack of cues that it's time to eat.). I am now making a more conscious effort to eat more. (I understand a high BMI>40 is a risk factor for a bad outcome of COVID-19,, but that's > 100 pounds more than me) I want to have some reserve if I need it.
One factor is ordering groceries days or a week+ in advance. You can't just buy twinkies on a whim, or run off to Basin-Robbins.
And, sadly, I can't splurge by getting a Clarkesburger. Mmmm, they were good.
Another factor might be reduced activity resulting in reduced appetite. We are walking most days, but I think it is less than the activity I did at work. I probably am standing less. I was wondering if the various exercise places might be willing to lease out their equipment (stationary bikes, etc.).
Maybe part of it is just a change of routine. It takes a while before a replacement routine kicks in. In the new routine, I might eat less & be a little more in the normal BMI range.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - BostonCard - 04-01-2020
Another positive health effect of SiP is the improvement in air quality.
Wish I still had the link, but at one point more lives were saved due to improved air quality than had been lost due to coronavivrus, though I suspect that with the deaths increasing exponentially, that is no longer the case.
BC
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - M T - 04-01-2020
(04-01-2020, 11:05 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Another positive health effect of SiP is the improvement in air quality.China has a large pollution problem and a large population. The benefits there are probably the most dramatic.
Wish I still had the link, but at one point more lives were saved due to improved air quality than had been lost due to coronavirus, though I suspect that with the deaths increasing exponentially, that is no longer the case.
Air Pollution Reduction and Mortality Benefit during the COVID-19 Outbreak in China
Quote:Our findings show that interventions to contain the COVID-19 outbreak led to air quality improvements that brought health benefits which outnumbered the confirmed deaths due to COVID-19 in China
COVID-19, City Lockdown, and Air Pollution: Evidence from China
Quote:we show that these counter-COVID-19 measures led to remarkable improvement in air quality. . . . We estimate that such improvement would avert 24,000 to 36,000 premature deaths from air pollution on a monthly basis.
I am looking forward to seeing some estimate of the impact of COVID-19 on global warming.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - akiddoc - 04-02-2020
I've lost 4 pounds. Hope to lose 4 more. Actually, if I lose 12 more I'll be down to my marriage weight 30 years ago.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - OutsiderFan - 04-02-2020
The best health improvement device you can have is dog to create metamorphic guilt on you if you don’t walk them. One of my dogs eats his and his brother’s poop if not supervised, so I get up to let them out and go outside with them to potty. And they drink a lot so I always have to fill their water bowl too. They also get fed three times/day instead of two bigger meals morning and night. This also makes me get up more. I probably walk 2 miles every day between dedicated walk and just all the other walking in and around the house.
There is nothing wrong with reduced caloric intake. The only reason you need more calories than needed to live is to keep on weight for sports performance. I hate making lunch so I often skip it, with only a granola, protein bar in between breakfast and dinner. Also drink pretty much only water. No juices, soda, or anything else with rare exception.
You are what you eat, so consume quality food, avoid unhealthy snacks, and you will more than likely enjoy good health, especially if you get at least 20-30 minutes of exercise a day, which you have no excuse not to be getting while mostly stuck at home.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - Mick - 04-02-2020
(04-02-2020, 12:49 AM)akiddoc Wrote: I've lost 4 pounds. Hope to lose 4 more. Actually, if I lose 12 more I'll be down to my marriage weight 30 years ago.
I need to lose 25 pounds or I'm out a decent bottle of Testarossa...
(04-01-2020, 11:05 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Another positive health effect of SiP is the improvement in air quality.
Wish I still had the link, but at one point more lives were saved due to improved air quality than had been lost due to coronavivrus, though I suspect that with the deaths increasing exponentially, that is no longer the case.
BC
Was it the Forbes study?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2020/03/16/coronavirus-lockdown-may-have-saved-77000-lives-in-china-just-from-pollution-reduction/#ebad4b234fe3
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - Farm93 - 04-02-2020
(04-02-2020, 04:38 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The best health improvement device you can have is dog to create metamorphic guilt on you if you don’t walk them. One of my dogs eats his and his brother’s poop if not supervised, so I get up to let them out and go outside with them to potty. And they drink a lot so I always have to fill their water bowl too. They also get fed three times/day instead of two bigger meals morning and night. This also makes me get up more. I probably walk 2 miles every day between dedicated walk and just all the other walking in and around the house.I once attended a global medical conference on peripheral vascular disease and the cascade of complications associated with not remaining active.
There is nothing wrong with reduced caloric intake. The only reason you need more calories than needed to live is to keep on weight for sports performance. I hate making lunch so I often skip it, with only a granola, protein bar in between breakfast and dinner. Also drink pretty much only water. No juices, soda, or anything else with rare exception.
You are what you eat, so consume quality food, avoid unhealthy snacks, and you will more than likely enjoy good health, especially if you get at least 20-30 minutes of exercise a day, which you have no excuse not to be getting while mostly stuck at home.
The USA panelist talked about frequently testing, therapists, physical trainers, exercise journals and on and on to show how difficult and expensive if can be to encourage patients to remain active. Despite all of those health care resources compliance remains low as patients don't get and stay active even if losing extremities may be the result.
The UK based panelist was asked what they do in the UK. He indicated they tell patients they must get a dog.
Full stop.
A number of the other panelists were confused, and the USA-based audience members really thought he was joking.
He went on to explain that it is easy for patients to put false entries into journals and tell medical professionals all the right things a few times a month. However, those dogs drive daily compliance for a number of reasons, and are a lot less expensive then all of those expensive professionals the USA panelists noted.
Of course, in the USA many would probably just hire dog walkers, but as I saw your comment I couldn't help but recall that conference.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - OutsiderFan - 04-02-2020
(04-02-2020, 06:01 AM)Farm93 Wrote:(04-02-2020, 04:38 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: The best health improvement device you can have is dog to create metamorphic guilt on you if you don’t walk them. One of my dogs eats his and his brother’s poop if not supervised, so I get up to let them out and go outside with them to potty. And they drink a lot so I always have to fill their water bowl too. They also get fed three times/day instead of two bigger meals morning and night. This also makes me get up more. I probably walk 2 miles every day between dedicated walk and just all the other walking in and around the house.I once attended a global medical conference on peripheral vascular disease and the cascade of complications associated with not remaining active.
There is nothing wrong with reduced caloric intake. The only reason you need more calories than needed to live is to keep on weight for sports performance. I hate making lunch so I often skip it, with only a granola, protein bar in between breakfast and dinner. Also drink pretty much only water. No juices, soda, or anything else with rare exception.
You are what you eat, so consume quality food, avoid unhealthy snacks, and you will more than likely enjoy good health, especially if you get at least 20-30 minutes of exercise a day, which you have no excuse not to be getting while mostly stuck at home.
The USA panelist talked about frequently testing, therapists, physical trainers, exercise journals and on and on to show how difficult and expensive if can be to encourage patients to remain active. Despite all of those health care resources compliance remains low as patients don't get and stay active even if losing extremities may be the result.
The UK based panelist was asked what they do in the UK. He indicated they tell patients they must get a dog.
Full stop.
A number of the other panelists were confused, and the USA-based audience members really thought he was joking.
He went on to explain that it is easy for patients to put false entries into journals and tell medical professionals all the right things a few times a month. However, those dogs drive daily compliance for a number of reasons, and are a lot less expensive then all of those expensive professionals the USA panelists noted.
Of course, in the USA many would probably just hire dog walkers, but as I saw your comment I couldn't help but recall that conference.
Great story and not surprising. If you see an obese dog odds are the owner is too. You might see an obese person with a fit dog. You''ll see fit people with fit dogs. But I challenge anyone to show me someone with a fit body and an obese dog.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - chrisk - 04-02-2020
How about less fluid retention due to less salt intake because we are not eating out (where it is much harder to avoid salted foods)?
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - g1313 - 04-02-2020
This is straying a bit off the topic, but I'm seeing a lot of comments on weight loss in here and I have always wondered whether our societal fixation on weight as an indicator of health is misguided, vs some other measure of cardiovascular health (such as your ability to run a mile in 9 minutes or some other similar goal). I've spent a little bit of time trying to look for studies on this, not too successfully as I am not a professional medical researcher and the popular media coverage of this is very obfuscated for a sensitive topic like dieting and body image.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - stupac2 - 04-02-2020
(04-02-2020, 10:44 AM)g1313 Wrote: This is straying a bit off the topic, but I'm seeing a lot of comments on weight loss in here and I have always wondered whether our societal fixation on weight as an indicator of health is misguided, vs some other measure of cardiovascular health (such as your ability to run a mile in 9 minutes or some other similar goal). I've spent a little bit of time trying to look for studies on this, not too successfully as I am not a professional medical researcher and the popular media coverage of this is very obfuscated for a sensitive topic like dieting and body image.
I mean, I'm definitely overweight but my doctor has never given me crap about it because my BP is closer to low than to high and a I bike for an hour a day (at least normally). So at least Kaiser takes that view.
Personally I'd like to get the beer gut a bit smaller, but I'm not focused on a BMI or anything.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - oldalum - 04-02-2020
According to the CDC:
People who have obesity, compared to those with a normal or healthy weight, are at increased risk for many serious diseases and health conditions, including the following:
- All-causes of death (mortality)
- High blood pressure (Hypertension)
- High LDL cholesterol, low HDL cholesterol, or high levels of triglycerides (Dyslipidemia)
- Type 2 diabetes
- Coronary heart disease
- Stroke
- Gallbladder disease
- Osteoarthritis (a breakdown of cartilage and bone within a joint)
- Sleep apnea and breathing problems
- Many types of cancer
- Low quality of life
- Mental illness such as clinical depression, anxiety, and other mental disorders4,5
- Body pain and difficulty with physical functioning6
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - murky - 04-02-2020
I've gained 6 or 7 lbs. At home there are 3 people to remember when its time to eat and expect palatable food to be available. Also frequent interrupts that bring me to the kitchen. And we feed our 8 year old calorie dense meals and snacks to try to keep up with her growth curve.
At work I bring a relatively small lunch and eat it when I find a chance.
I've also been baking sourdough bread...
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - M T - 04-02-2020
(04-02-2020, 03:19 PM)murky Wrote: I've also been baking sourdough bread...
That'll do it! Sounds yummy. That would be a good idea.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - stupac2 - 04-02-2020
My wife comes from a line of bakers (grandmother owned a bakery, aunt worked professionally as one for a while), and she has the touch. Having fresh-baked bread around all the time has certainly been one plus of this whole shitty situation.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - Mick - 04-03-2020
(04-02-2020, 03:19 PM)murky Wrote: I've also been baking sourdough bread...
I'll be right over...
California cuisine is much better than anywhere else, but candidly, as I've moved out of the SFBA these last six years, I miss the local sourdough bread more than anything. You just can't get it outside of the SFBA.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - murky - 04-03-2020
Honey Wheat Berry Sourdough
Whole Wheat Sourdough
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - burger - 04-03-2020
Scientists are arguing in an essay that childhood obesity will get worse during the lockdown. Kids already tend to gain weight during the summer and parents are stocking up on unhealthy, pre-processed foods.
Press release here with link to essay https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/cums-cpm040320.php
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - stupac2 - 04-03-2020
(04-03-2020, 02:42 PM)burger Wrote: Scientists are arguing in an essay that childhood obesity will get worse during the lockdown. Kids already tend to gain weight during the summer and parents are stocking up on unhealthy, pre-processed foods.
Press release here with link to essay https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/cums-cpm040320.php
Fortunately for my kid all the parents are stocking up on unhealthy, pre-processed foods and there's none left for us!
Also I suppose it helps that his favorite activity is running around like a madman.
RE: Non-virus health effects of shelter in place - OutsiderFan - 04-04-2020
We were just told in CT our peak won’t be until late May. I suppose that is good from a curve flattening perspective, but holy crap that basically means two more months, maybe even three staying inside.
I have mentally been operating on “this will last about 6 weeks” and we should be returning to some semblance of normal, and I can handle anything for that long. But hearing this end of May timeline and then knowing it will take some time after peak before stay at home is lifted, it is a different level of disruption. It crosses from using a MacGyver solution to something, to wanting to get something more ideally suited to the job. Like, around these parts, if it snows heavy 1-2 days a season, I don’t need a snow blower or to hire a snow clearing crew. But if it snows heavy 1-2 times a week, I’m absolutely putting more resources into snow removal.
In this situation, I’m not even sure what it all means and what I really need to be allocating more resources to for this more structural longer haul. At least with the snow situation, I know the outcomes and implications of dealing with large amounts of the white stuff. I really have no idea with this situation.
My latest concern is need to plant garden, what, and how much to plant. We still have a month before growing season starts, but all the seeds are gone already from many places, and I have no idea what the supply of seedlings will be from the nursery a street over from us. Then, there is a family farm 20 minutes away that we always buy from that has everything you can imagine. But will they experience unprecedented demand and experience sellouts we’ve never seen happen before, because food supply chains are seizing up?