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Pac-12 football in the fall? - 82lsju - 06-02-2020
George Rutherford professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at UCSF
- player, coaches, staff testing 3x/week
- maybe 1/3rd capacity for fans wearing masks
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/01/pac-12-football-in-the-fall-play-ball-says-a-leading-epidemiologist-but-theres-a-caveat/?utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.mercurynews.com%2f2020%2f06%2f01%2fpac-12-football-in-the-fall-play-ball-says-a-leading-epidemiologist-but-theres-a-caveat%2f&utm_campaign=bang-mult-nl-pac-12-hotline-nl
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - terry - 06-02-2020
Quote:Rutherford indicated the need for masks and recalled a series of Stanford athletic events in early March, when the school blocked off two-thirds of the seats in its facilities in order to create social distancing.
“Something like that” for football, Rutherford said.
And that was the epidemiologist in him talking.
If Stanford were to limit football attendance to season ticket holders, that might allow for adequate distancing.
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - Farm93 - 06-02-2020
(06-02-2020, 12:34 PM)terry Wrote:Quote:Rutherford indicated the need for masks and recalled a series of Stanford athletic events in early March, when the school blocked off two-thirds of the seats in its facilities in order to create social distancing.
“Something like that” for football, Rutherford said.
And that was the epidemiologist in him talking.
If Stanford were to limit football attendance to season ticket holders, that might allow for adequate distancing.
You might have a seat assignment issue though. Some paying $2000 for seat donations would need to fall in love with the 30 yard line. Some paying $500 for 25 yard line seats would need to accept end zone seats.
I guess that could be a net good as it might reduce occupancy a touch.
Have to say, if I was a student I am not sure I would sit in the stands. I guess if they allowed each dorm to sit together that could be viable.
Thanks to Stanford's relatively weak attendance for most football games it should be easier for Stanford than other schools across the country.
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - BobK - 06-02-2020
I don’t know how many season ticket might be sold but average number of tickets sold last season was 34K
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - Phogge - 06-02-2020
Can you imagine the riots and havoc in Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Athens and Gainesville if only 1/3 of the fans are allowed in?
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - qwerty49 - 06-02-2020
I don't know of any solution that would be optimal; guess we just wait and see.
As far as attendance goes, just treat it like a big HS game.
Hey Bobbk, I think you were gone by then but there was one big FHS rivalry game with the guys on the other side of the El Camino where our FB team lost the game but our local hoods definitely won the post-game fight in the parking lot.
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - BobK - 06-02-2020
Thankfully I must have been gone.
Who gets into games will be a brobdingnagian thing.
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - 76lsjumb - 06-02-2020
(06-02-2020, 04:15 PM)Farm93 Wrote: Have to say, if I was a student I am not sure I would sit in the stands. I guess if they allowed each dorm to sit together that could be viable.
Really? I'm guessing students would be more likely to go to games than just about anyone else. If there's ever a time in your life when sitting out in the sun on a Saturday afternoon makes you feel like everything's perfect, that time is college...
As for students and behavior that is risky to your health, well, Full Moon on the Quad for starters...
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - Farm93 - 06-02-2020
(06-02-2020, 08:45 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:I was not from CA, so if I got sick that would have been VERY problematic.(06-02-2020, 04:15 PM)Farm93 Wrote: Have to say, if I was a student I am not sure I would sit in the stands. I guess if they allowed each dorm to sit together that could be viable.
Really? I'm guessing students would be more likely to go to games than just about anyone else. If there's ever a time in your life when sitting out in the sun on a Saturday afternoon makes you feel like everything's perfect, that time is college...
As for students and behavior that is risky to your health, well, Full Moon on the Quad for starters...
I would be stuck in CA without family support, resources, etc. No real way to get home given the positive test, so that would all be rather miserable. Even if it was just a flu like thing for 7-14 days, that would be a rough way to spend a 10-week quarter.
That USC game will be an interesting test for Stanford. Perhaps in one student's home town everything was OK, but would that student be confident sitting next to a person from Birmingham, AL or Detroit, MI or perhaps a daughter of a meat processing plant employee?
Most Stanford students did not show up at games last year, so I just can't imagine they will show up this year. I guess it is an important question because I would believe the students should be first in. If capacity is limited to 5,000. It should be family of players and coaches, then students, and then if any seats are left the top donors.
If the football players are not playing in front of their family, friends and school colleagues but instead are playing in front of big donors then the NCAA and the colleges should stop pretending they care about the student-athletes.
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - BostonCard - 06-02-2020
(06-02-2020, 08:45 PM)76lsjumb Wrote: As for students and behavior that is risky to your health, well, Full Moon on the Quad for starters...
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/education/welcomed-with-kisses-stanford-freshmen-risk-the-kissing-disease.html
If the 2020 version of mono (the kissing disease) is COVID-19, I can't imagine that there will be a FMOTQ this year.
BC
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - Mick - 06-03-2020
(06-02-2020, 04:15 PM)Farm93 Wrote: Thanks to Stanford's relatively weak attendance for most football games it should be easier for Stanford than other schools across the country.
Big House capacity at UMich is 107,601. I could see their crowds at 26,900 or so.
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - Farm93 - 06-03-2020
(06-03-2020, 07:42 AM)Mick Wrote:Curious example to pick. Michigan for decades had an attendance streak of 100,000+ at every game. Which ~27,000 get in when you likely have 60,000 ticket holders or more that have not missed a game in years?(06-02-2020, 04:15 PM)Farm93 Wrote: Thanks to Stanford's relatively weak attendance for most football games it should be easier for Stanford than other schools across the country.
Big House capacity at UMich is 107,601. I could see their crowds at 26,900 or so.
Also do you ban tailgates? If not, that's a problem as at many Michigan games there are several thousand fans outside the stadium each Saturday that party with friends, but lack tickets. So that party without tickets is not uncommon. If attendance is 27,000 but 50,000 tailgate outside the venue then the core COVID transmission problem was not really addressed.
I don't think Michigan is that unique in the BigTen. In most BigTen schools a football Saturday brings together a meaningful percentage of the citizens of the state to buy stuff, attend alumni parties, donate money, support local eateries.
If it needs to happen, it will probably just have to be. But I would argue Ann Arbor will struggle with the loss of the ~70,000 fans a lot more than Palo Alto and the surrounding Bay Area would the hoopla associated with a Stanford football Saturday. The struggles would be so great for communities that NEED 100,000 at the games that I bet a number of local officials and governors will decide to allow fans to attend even if health evidence suggests that would be a very risky move.
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - Phogge - 06-03-2020
The NCAA would solve the fan questions by banning fans and it should have done so already. Matters little at Stanford which has horrid attendance for a team that has performed at just under the highest level for eleven seasons. At Michigan and Alabama it would be bigger than anything. Bigger than life in a way.
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - Mick - 06-03-2020
(06-03-2020, 09:03 AM)Farm93 Wrote: I don't think Michigan is that unique in the BigTen. In most BigTen schools a football Saturday brings together a meaningful percentage of the citizens of the state to buy stuff, attend alumni parties, donate money, support local eateries.
Sure. They're like any other state without a professional football team.... ;)
RE: Pac-12 football in the fall? - Softball Fan - 06-03-2020
I haven't followed the news in the last few days. Will the University of Michigan have fall sports. The President of UM said there must be 100% of students allowed on campus for there to be fall sports. I don't see how they allow 100% of the students back particularly when the state of Michigan has taken a very conservative approach to reopening.