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Muir to ACC Commissioner? - Giants - 06-27-2020
As part of a list of candidates for ACC Commissioner, The Athletic mentioned Muir as one of three “Qualified AD’s”. There is certainly precedence for a Stanford AD to become a P5 Commissioner.
Hmmmmmm.....
Richard@agnich.com - Mudhead - 06-29-2020
(06-27-2020, 11:26 PM)Giants Wrote: As part of a list of candidates for ACC Commissioner, The Athletic mentioned Muir as one of three “Qualified AD’s”. There is certainly precedence for a Stanford AD to become a P5 Commissioner.
Hmmmmmm.....
Would hate to see him go. He has done a good job and is a good man in my opinion. He and his wife do have e deep East coast and ACC ties though, so it makes some 30,000 foot sense. Hope he stays here. It would be nice for AD job, like major spots head coaching jobs, become a destination job rather than a stepping stone.
Anyone know how compensation of Sanford AD compares to that of other ADs or conference commissioners?
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BobK - 06-29-2020
The same publication had a story recently who would be the next WBB coach at various schools and we Lol at the logic.
Muir’s daughter will be playing WVB at Duke I think in one more year. The other daughter is at Stanford
Muir has hired extremely well in my opinion and I follow many sports
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - Jamesy - 06-29-2020
(06-29-2020, 07:39 AM)BobK Wrote: The same publication had a story recently who would be the next WBB coach at various schools and we Lol at the logic.
Muir’s daughter will be playing WVB at Duke I think in one more year. The other daughter is at Stanford
Muir has hired extremely well in my opinion and I follow many sports
His Stanford daughter was a senior this year and is not coming back for a 5th year (per the team IG account). Looks like his younger daughter is HS class of 2022.
RE: Richard@agnich.com - murky - 06-29-2020
(06-29-2020, 06:51 AM)Mudhead Wrote:(06-27-2020, 11:26 PM)Giants Wrote: As part of a list of candidates for ACC Commissioner, The Athletic mentioned Muir as one of three “Qualified AD’s”. There is certainly precedence for a Stanford AD to become a P5 Commissioner.
Hmmmmmm.....
Would hate to see him go. He has done a good job and is a good man in my opinion. He and his wife do have e deep East coast and ACC ties though, so it makes some 30,000 foot sense. Hope he stays here. It would be nice for AD job, like major spots head coaching jobs, become a destination job rather than a stepping stone.
Anyone know how compensation of Sanford AD compares to that of other ADs or conference commissioners?
Interesting perspective. this is the first I can recall of a member of this board giving Muir credit as anything better than a placeholder. I have little visibility to what the AD does and wouldn't know where to begin in judging one outside of major program hires, and handling of public perception.
I'm happy we have coach Shaw and basketball athlete recruitment has been good :)
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - CompSci87 - 06-29-2020
Muir has taken a lot of flak here from basketball fans, especially because he's a "basketball guy," but there have been compliments on his hires in most other sports.
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BostonCard - 06-29-2020
Remind me again of the coaches he’s hired? Off the top of my head, Hambly (WVB) has been an excellent hire (pending a bit on what the team does in the post-Plummer et al era), and Allister (softball) also seems to have been great. Who else has been hired?
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RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - Softball Fan - 06-29-2020
Hambly 57-3 in PAC-12; Two NCAA National titles and one Final Four; not bad.
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BobK - 06-29-2020
Muir hires
2 head track/cross country coaches. Clark in year 1
Men’s swimming
Men’s Basketball
Lacrosse
Baseball
Softball
So far
Sailing
Women’s rowing
Beach volleyball
I think women’s golf was when we had the interim AD
Women’s Gymnastics
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - oldalum - 06-29-2020
(06-29-2020, 04:27 PM)paloalto Wrote: Hambly 57-3 in PAC-12; Two NCAA National titles and one Final Four; not bad.Not bad at all -- but entirely with players he didn't recruit (with the partial exception of completing the recruitment of Holly Campbell, who committed to Stanford 5 months after Hambly was hired but of course had been recruited long before then), which I'm guessing is partly BC's caveat. And with the best assistant coach in the country whom he also inherited. Don't get me wrong, Hambly's been terrific, but from this point on he has the chance to remove that little asterisk from his record!
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - CTcard - 06-30-2020
(06-29-2020, 04:40 PM)BobK Wrote: Muir hires
2 head track/cross country coaches. Clark in year 1
Men’s swimming
Men’s Basketball
Lacrosse
Baseball
Softball
So far
Sailing
Women’s rowing
Beach volleyball
I think women’s golf was when we had the interim AD
Women’s Gymnastics
Of course Muir has hired two softball head coaches. The latter seems to be working out better than the former.
Also men's rowing, men's tennis.
Really not that many considering Muir has been AD since 2012. Stanford does tend to have coaching stability.
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BobK - 06-30-2020
After Rittman left no one on any top list would touch Stanford. Including Allister or Alameda or Dean.
I think that’s quite a few new hires.
When Stanford women win the XC championship we can say Clark a damn good hire.
And the Mens tennis coach is a Muir hire
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BostonCard - 06-30-2020
(06-30-2020, 10:16 AM)CTcard Wrote:(06-29-2020, 04:40 PM)BobK Wrote: Muir hires
2 head track/cross country coaches. Clark in year 1
Men’s swimming
Men’s Basketball
Lacrosse
Baseball
Softball
So far
Sailing
Women’s rowing
Beach volleyball
I think women’s golf was when we had the interim AD
Women’s Gymnastics
Of course Muir has hired two softball head coaches. The latter seems to be working out better than the former.
Also men's rowing, men's tennis.
Really not that many considering Muir has been AD since 2012. Stanford does tend to have coaching stability.
I mean, how many AD’s has Tara Vanderveer hired?
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RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BostonCard - 06-30-2020
In other AD news, Dan Guerrero, UCLA AD, retires, leaving the underarmour mess to his successor.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/pac12/status/1278097793618329600?s=21[/tweet]
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RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BobK - 06-30-2020
I’m lost how 13 coaches hired over 8 years isn’t many. Some were let go and definitely upgraded.
I think Tara is on her 4th AD
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - Farm93 - 06-30-2020
(06-30-2020, 03:57 PM)BobK Wrote: I’m lost how 13 coaches hired over 8 years isn’t many. Some were let go and definitely upgraded.Stanford has more sports at the varsity level than the NCAA designates as D1.
I think Tara is on her 4th AD
Turnover in sports coaching is very common. There are probably quite a number of Power 5 schools that have hired far more than 13 coaches over 8 years with just a fraction of the sports at the Varsity level.
Ultimately, the question shouldn't be turnover anyway since a coach that leaves to become the national or Olympic coach for a sport shouldn't be viewed as a blemish for the AD.
So the tally should account for the number of sports and tally only forced resignations and terminations IMHO.
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BobK - 06-30-2020
Name two Farm 93 please
Meehan is the Olympics coach and the Stanford swim coach
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - CompSci87 - 06-30-2020
I don't think anyone is trying to criticize Muir for the number of coaches he's hired since coming to Stanford — either too few or too many. At least I hope not. I think folks were just asking if he's made good hires when a hire was needed, and Bob has made a good case in favor.
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - CTcard - 07-01-2020
(06-30-2020, 08:16 PM)CompSci87 Wrote: I don't think anyone is trying to criticize Muir for the number of coaches he's hired since coming to Stanford — either too few or too many. At least I hope not. I think folks were just asking if he's made good hires when a hire was needed, and Bob has made a good case in favor.
Well, since I think I am the one who first said that the number of coaching hires over 8 years doesn't seem like all that many, let me note that was meant as a compliment. Coaching stability leads to program stability, and is generally a very good thing. Mostly, I think it is an even better thing for the student-athlete experience than for the actual win-loss record.
Now, it is true that I am not certain that the number or hires is actually a relatively small number, it's just my impression - particularly given the large number of sports Stanford sponsors. Therefore, I admit it might be unwarranted praise.
RE: Muir to ACC Commissioner? - BobK - 07-01-2020
https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/ucla-names-martin-jarmond-athletic-director
Ucla has had a new AD for over a month now