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Slater - Phogge - 09-27-2020
Unforgivable. You know that the ump is trying to scram and has missed the low calls all day. You can’t take the third strike. It is like surrendering. Needs to become aggressive. Plus Kapler has to fight for his guys. He can manage the game from the tunnel. He should have been out on the field giving the guy hell on the Dubon call.so what if he gets ejected. Just another Surrender Monkee.
lex24 - lex24 - 09-27-2020
(09-27-2020, 04:20 PM)Phogge Wrote: Unforgivable. You know that the ump is trying to scram and has missed the low calls all day. You can’t take the third strike. It is like surrendering. Needs to become aggressive. Plus Kapler has to fight for his guys. He can manage the game from the tunnel. He should have been out on the field giving the guy hell on the Dubon call.so what if he gets ejected. Just another Surrender Monkee.
Well I’m not gonna blame Slater because the pitches weren’t close – neither of them. From the seventh to the ninth he called for third strikes on 4 pitches that weren’t particularly close. Now the Giants basically choked down the stretch. So they have no one but themselves to blame. But still one would hope in a game that matters you get a home plate umpire that actually calls the game professionally. He did not. If I’m Kapler I send that tape to New York and I ask them to take some disciplinary action on the guy whatever that might be. They need to have some consequences for when they are that bad. And frankly it appear that all that guy wanted to do was get home. At the very least if the guy is scheduled to work the playoffs the league should take that away from him. That’ll hit him in the pocketbook
Agree that it would not have been a bad idea for Kapler to simply go nuts and get tossed.
RE: Slater - Phogge - 09-27-2020
Lex on every level you have to protect the plate. This time you had to protect what was left of the season. Slater is a Stanford guy. He's got to know that the ump is bush and wants to make his flight. You simply have to swing and not leave it up to an old fat man.
lex24 - lex24 - 09-27-2020
(09-27-2020, 06:49 PM)Phogge Wrote: Lex on every level you have to protect the plate. This time you had to protect what was left of the season. Slater is a Stanford guy. He's got to know that the ump is bush and wants to make his flight. You simply have to swing and not leave it up to an old fat man.
I get that. But man did they get screwed those last 3 innings
RE: Slater - old spanish trail - 09-27-2020
(09-27-2020, 06:49 PM)Phogge Wrote: Lex on every level you have to protect the plate. This time you had to protect what was left of the season. Slater is a Stanford guy. He's got to know that the ump is bush and wants to make his flight. You simply have to swing and not leave it up to an old fat man.
That last strike was probably unhittable. If he had swung and missed, would you say the same?
RE: Slater - teejers1 - 09-27-2020
(09-27-2020, 06:49 PM)Phogge Wrote: Lex on every level you have to protect the plate. This time you had to protect what was left of the season. Slater is a Stanford guy. He's got to know that the ump is bush and wants to make his flight. You simply have to swing and not leave it up to an old fat man.
That was a freaking RIDICULOUS called strike 3 to end the game. No blame on Slater whatsoever.
Agree with Lex down the line re: that ump and what consequences he should face. No playoffs (though that may be hard with so many damn games). That was atrocious; however, if Kaplan had just made one fewer hideous/idiotic decisions in last innings of games this year, then it wouldn't have mattered.
And I don't care if he made a lot of other good/decent/coin flip decisions - managers can't make the obviously WRONG decision. Kaplan did that at least 3 times this year, all late inning collapses. BRUTAL!
RE: Slater - Mick - 09-28-2020
I imagine the umpires union would make it difficult to have that terrible umpire tossed or suspended. But man those were some miserable balls/strikes calls. I don't blame Slater at all. You can't swing at a pitch that's five inches inside that the catcher has to lunge to actually catch.
I agree that Kapler and the Giants should route the video to league headquarters. The umpire shouldn't be umpiring in the majors. He's clearly not up to it, whether it was the strain, poor stamina, bad eyesight, purposeful lean towards the other team.
Still, the Giants made their own beds. Kapler cost the team at least three games this season because of bad decisions, and probably more. I'm not a fan.
Two other things: The Giants' top ten hitters all had career OPS years or near-career OPS years except Longoria and Dubon. Crawford and Belt had very good years. The Giants ended up sixth in the majors in OPS, fifth in batting average and eighth in runs scored. Oddly, they were below average in walks.
Joey Bart? I hope he gets a whole lot better his second year, otherwise he's the Joe Smith of the 2018 draft.
SF pitchers finished 18th in ERA and 16th in WHIP. 23rd in strikeouts.
For the longest time, the Giants had the worst fielding average and had the most errors in the league. They settled down, finishing with the sixth most errors (41), 26th in fielding percentage and 25th in double plays. Not a great fielding team.
Strong hitting, average pitching, below average fielding. There's your 29-31 season in a nutshell.