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Question About the Axe - Hank 91 - 11-23-2020
Tell me if I'm remembering this incorrectly. I've always thought that every time we won the Axe back from Cal, the score of the 1982 game printed on the plaque below the Axe would be changed back to Stanford 20, Cal 19. When Cal won it back, they'd switch it to Cal 25, Stanford 20. But this week I saw a closeup picture of the Axe from either last year or the year before but definitely while in Stanford possession, and the score was 25-20.
So have I manufactured this memory?
RE: Question About the Axe - JJJ - 11-23-2020
You didn’t misremember. I thought the pic I saw was a current one with the wrong score. :)
RE: Question About the Axe - PVTree - 11-23-2020
I've seen it while in Stanford's possession. It definitely has the 20-19 score.
RE: Question About the Axe - GaryT - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 02:19 AM)Hank 91 Wrote: Tell me if I'm remembering this incorrectly. I've always thought that every time we won the Axe back from Cal, the score of the 1982 game printed on the plaque below the Axe would be changed back to Stanford 20, Cal 19. When Cal won it back, they'd switch it to Cal 25, Stanford 20. But this week I saw a closeup picture of the Axe from either last year or the year before but definitely while in Stanford possession, and the score was 25-20.
So have I manufactured this memory?
When the Axe is on display at Stanford, the score reads 20-19. However, on Big Game Day, the score is switched to 25-20 prior to the game and the potential transfer of possession.
RE: Question About the Axe - Farm93 - 11-23-2020
While on this theme...
Given that the Axe is chained to regular students during the game, but at both campuses regular students are not on campus....
Just how exactly will the Axe be displayed during the game.
Should an exchange of possession be required just how would that happen?
If the Axe committees are involved, are the relevant Axe Committee members from both schools getting COVID-19 tests daily this week?
RE: Question About the Axe - AxeMan89 - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 10:04 AM)GaryT Wrote:(11-23-2020, 02:19 AM)Hank 91 Wrote: Tell me if I'm remembering this incorrectly. I've always thought that every time we won the Axe back from Cal, the score of the 1982 game printed on the plaque below the Axe would be changed back to Stanford 20, Cal 19. When Cal won it back, they'd switch it to Cal 25, Stanford 20. But this week I saw a closeup picture of the Axe from either last year or the year before but definitely while in Stanford possession, and the score was 25-20.
So have I manufactured this memory?
When the Axe is on display at Stanford, the score reads 20-19. However, on Big Game Day, the score is switched to 25-20 prior to the game and the potential transfer of possession.
I can confirm this as a former Chair of AxeComm. Interesting to see what they are doing this year at the game. Given all the history of Axe-stealing and other issues there are usually 4-6 students on each side plus law enforcement when they make the exchange.
RE: Question About the Axe - Hank 91 - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 10:04 AM)GaryT Wrote:(11-23-2020, 02:19 AM)Hank 91 Wrote: Tell me if I'm remembering this incorrectly. I've always thought that every time we won the Axe back from Cal, the score of the 1982 game printed on the plaque below the Axe would be changed back to Stanford 20, Cal 19. When Cal won it back, they'd switch it to Cal 25, Stanford 20. But this week I saw a closeup picture of the Axe from either last year or the year before but definitely while in Stanford possession, and the score was 25-20.
So have I manufactured this memory?
When the Axe is on display at Stanford, the score reads 20-19. However, on Big Game Day, the score is switched to 25-20 prior to the game and the potential transfer of possession.
Thanks for this clarification, Gary!
RE: Question About the Axe - OutsiderFan - 11-23-2020
It this score changing a pure act of juvenile behavior, a romantic tradition to keep the spirit of the rivalry going, or both?
RE: Question About the Axe - CompSci87 - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 01:04 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It this score changing a pure act of juvenile behavior, a romantic tradition to keep the spirit of the rivalry going, or both?
It is juvenile if you are a Cal fan and a spirited tradition if you are a Stanford fan.
Since you're a fan of both teams, I guess for you it's both. I don't envy you the cognitive dissonance.
;-)
RE: Question About the Axe - pefloresjr - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 01:04 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: It this score changing a pure act of juvenile behavior, a romantic tradition to keep the spirit of the rivalry going, or both?
We wuz robbed.
Cheers,
Pete F.
RE: Question About the Axe - Phogge - 11-23-2020
Blame it on Elway. Early lesson of non-clock management, festered for years and then boiled over under Roman and then Shaw.
RE: Question About the Axe - Treebound - 11-23-2020
I was a freshman in '82 and that was my first Big Game. Great game with a horrible ending right in front of our student section. I still have a copy of the fake "Daily Californian" that reversed the play and the outcome.
BobK or others: Who was that special teams coach on Wiggin's staff?
RE: Question About the Axe - 81alum - 11-23-2020
I don't know why people keep complaining about that game. It was a beautiful game, with Elway leading that amazing come-from-behind score to win with just seconds left in the game. I've watched that game replayed countless times, and our victory never ceases to bring a smile to my face, right before I turn the TV off with 4 seconds left on the clock.
RE: Question About the Axe - BobK - 11-23-2020
Go stanford lists all the assistants but back then Special teams coach was alos in charge f someting else so
not listed.
I was at the game with a group I yelled they are still playing. I was ignored until Touchdown was announced.
RE: Question About the Axe - BostonCard - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 07:46 PM)81alum Wrote: I don't know why people keep complaining about that game. It was a beautiful game, with Elway leading that amazing come-from-behind score to win with just seconds left in the game. I've watched that game replayed countless times, and our victory never ceases to bring a smile to my face, right before I turn the TV off with 4 seconds left on the clock.
You should watch to the very end of the game, when Dwight Garner's knee is clearly down with no time left on the clock and the band descends onto the field in celebration.
BC
RE: Question About the Axe - 82lsju - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 08:49 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-23-2020, 07:46 PM)81alum Wrote: I don't know why people keep complaining about that game. It was a beautiful game, with Elway leading that amazing come-from-behind score to win with just seconds left in the game. I've watched that game replayed countless times, and our victory never ceases to bring a smile to my face, right before I turn the TV off with 4 seconds left on the clock.
You should watch to the very end of the game, when Dwight Garner's knee is clearly down with no time left on the clock and the band descends onto the field in celebration.
BC
of course one of the Cal TDs in the Stanford endzone was not a catch.......at least not from our low endzone seats it was not......
RE: Question About the Axe - Farm93 - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 08:49 PM)BostonCard Wrote:That's the old school view of the event.(11-23-2020, 07:46 PM)81alum Wrote: I don't know why people keep complaining about that game. It was a beautiful game, with Elway leading that amazing come-from-behind score to win with just seconds left in the game. I've watched that game replayed countless times, and our victory never ceases to bring a smile to my face, right before I turn the TV off with 4 seconds left on the clock.
You should watch to the very end of the game, when Dwight Garner's knee is clearly down with no time left on the clock and the band descends onto the field in celebration.
BC
The new school would note the ref's should have called the game with the illegal forward pass. And that forward pass would definitely be observed on any replay review if it happened today. I think the Pac-12 Nets, or some other Pacific coast based show, covered that ~5 years ago.
All a distant memory now, and if that game had anything to do with Cal AD's kharma or Stanford AD's kharma since 1982 then it is definitely all good IMHO.
RE: Question About the Axe - teejers1 - 11-23-2020
(11-23-2020, 09:08 PM)82lsju Wrote:(11-23-2020, 08:49 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(11-23-2020, 07:46 PM)81alum Wrote: I don't know why people keep complaining about that game. It was a beautiful game, with Elway leading that amazing come-from-behind score to win with just seconds left in the game. I've watched that game replayed countless times, and our victory never ceases to bring a smile to my face, right before I turn the TV off with 4 seconds left on the clock.
You should watch to the very end of the game, when Dwight Garner's knee is clearly down with no time left on the clock and the band descends onto the field in celebration.
BC
of course one of the Cal TDs in the Stanford endzone was not a catch.......at least not from our low endzone seats it was not......
That led to several seasons of Stanford fans derisively mimicking a referee's touchdown sign whenever there was an awful call . . . in any sport. That "tradition" was particularly well-used at Maples (and very amusing). I swear, it must have lasted 5 years . . . easy. And only the Stanford fans sitting in that end zone watching that horrific TD call for Da Bears knew what the heck the derisive TD sign by irate fans signified. God, it was beautiful!
P.S. IIRC, 76lsjumb (a sometimes poster in these parts) was one of the best practitioners.
RE: Question About the Axe - Phogge - 11-23-2020
I think Von Appen handled special teams.
RE: Question About the Axe - BobK - 11-24-2020
The next year Von Appen was with the 49ers as ST coach. So agree with you Phogge
Three assistants on the 1982 team became NFL head coaches. Name them