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Will football leave the NCAA - BostonCard - 12-03-2020
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2020/12/03/knight-commission-ncaa-football-bowl-subdivision-split/3811200001/
The Knight commission proposes just that.
Quote:An influential leadership group has proposed sweeping changes to the Division I model that would distinguish the Football Bowl Subdivision from the NCAA, transforming the highest level of competition in the sport into a separate entity responsible for its own governance and revenue distribution.
BC
RE: Will football leave the NCAA - teejers1 - 12-03-2020
(12-03-2020, 05:40 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2020/12/03/knight-commission-ncaa-football-bowl-subdivision-split/3811200001/
The Knight commission proposes just that.
Quote:An influential leadership group has proposed sweeping changes to the Division I model that would distinguish the Football Bowl Subdivision from the NCAA, transforming the highest level of competition in the sport into a separate entity responsible for its own governance and revenue distribution.
BC
From the article:
If put into action, the commission's suggestions would make the college football model "more complete and unified to shape the future of the sport," said co-chair Carol Cartwright, and would "more effectively serve the vast majority of NCAA athletes."
Doubtful. Very, very doubtful.
RE: Will football leave the NCAA - 81alum - 12-04-2020
My instinct tells me that it would be devastating to all the sports besides football if the leading revenue generator--such as it is--were governed separately than all the non revenue sports. Obligations to subsidize the rest of athletics would certainly be lessened, and decisions would be made in the best interests of football and not necessarily in the best interests of athletics in general.
I also am inclined to think that it would be extremely bad for Stanford in particular, since independent governance of football would probably lead to ruination of the last vestiges of the amateur student-athlete model, which has been far more meaningful at Stanford than at many other institutions.
Arne Duncan was my least favorite Obama cabinet official, and now I can add another strike against him.
I think it is probably only a matter of time before this game is transmogrified to a degree that I can no longer enjoy it or support it. Stanford was the sole reason I have hung on as a football fan as long as I have, but these are ominous signs.
RE: Will football leave the NCAA - gailtate - 12-04-2020
(12-04-2020, 07:57 AM)81alum Wrote: My instinct tells me that it would be devastating to all the sports besides football if the leading revenue generator--such as it is--were governed separately than all the non revenue sports. Obligations to subsidize the rest of athletics would certainly be lessened, and decisions would be made in the best interests of football and not necessarily in the best interests of athletics in general.
I also am inclined to think that it would be extremely bad for Stanford in particular, since independent governance of football would probably lead to ruination of the last vestiges of the amateur student-athlete model, which has been far more meaningful at Stanford than at many other institutions.
Arne Duncan was my least favorite Obama cabinet official, and now I can add another strike against him.
I think it is probably only a matter of time before this game is transmogrified to a degree that I can no longer enjoy it or support it. Stanford was the sole reason I have hung on as a football fan as long as I have, but these are ominous signs.
You actually put Duncan below Mrs. Clinton?
RE: Will football leave the NCAA - Phogge - 12-04-2020
Army, Navy, AirForce, Rice, Vandy and Stanford. Then all the rest. Let football go solo. The service academies will still be somewhat competitive and the other three should go
D2. Vandy can’t compete in the Southeast, Rice can’t compete with anyone and the mission of Stanford U is at cross purposes with big time football. FCS has a bunch of really good teams so D2 could be dominated by Stanford which will still have some very good players who are truly student athletes. Stanford is experiencing the downside of the early sighing date, won’t accept transfers and JC kids and will never accept early entry, all necessary to compete in today’s college football world. Stanford could still schedule a yearly road beating from an SEC team and get a huuuge payday that would go a long way to fund other sports. Might be hard to find D2 opponents out West but travel with 55 instead of 85. Works for me.
RE: Will football leave the NCAA - donkey687 - 12-04-2020
(12-04-2020, 09:07 AM)Phogge Wrote: Army, Navy, AirForce, Rice, Vandy and Stanford. Then all the rest. Let football go solo. The service academies will still be somewhat competitive and the other three should go
D2. Vandy can’t compete in the Southeast, Rice can’t compete with anyone and the mission of Stanford U is at cross purposes with big time football. FCS has a bunch of really good teams so D2 could be dominated by Stanford which will still have some very good players who are truly student athletes. Stanford is experiencing the downside of the early sighing date, won’t accept transfers and JC kids and will never accept early entry, all necessary to compete in today’s college football world. Stanford could still schedule a yearly road beating from an SEC team and get a huuuge payday that would go a long way to fund other sports. Might be hard to find D2 opponents out West but travel with 55 instead of 85. Works for me.
That is a romantic notion but the lost revenue from D-1 football television and ticket sales are not replicable elsewhere. All other Stanford sports beyond basketball are subsidized by football revenue. That would be tough to overcome. Another question is whether the Pac12 would let Stanford join in all other sports if they weren't a football member.
lex24 - lex24 - 12-04-2020
(12-04-2020, 08:41 AM)gailtate Wrote:(12-04-2020, 07:57 AM)81alum Wrote: My instinct tells me that it would be devastating to all the sports besides football if the leading revenue generator--such as it is--were governed separately than all the non revenue sports. Obligations to subsidize the rest of athletics would certainly be lessened, and decisions would be made in the best interests of football and not necessarily in the best interests of athletics in general.
I also am inclined to think that it would be extremely bad for Stanford in particular, since independent governance of football would probably lead to ruination of the last vestiges of the amateur student-athlete model, which has been far more meaningful at Stanford than at many other institutions.
Arne Duncan was my least favorite Obama cabinet official, and now I can add another strike against him.
I think it is probably only a matter of time before this game is transmogrified to a degree that I can no longer enjoy it or support it. Stanford was the sole reason I have hung on as a football fan as long as I have, but these are ominous signs.
You actually put Duncan below Mrs. Clinton?
LOL.
RE: Will football leave the NCAA - bbm233 - 12-04-2020
(12-04-2020, 07:57 AM)81alum Wrote: My instinct tells me that it would be devastating to all the sports besides football if the leading revenue generator--such as it is--were governed separately than all the non revenue sports. Obligations to subsidize the rest of athletics would certainly be lessened, and decisions would be made in the best interests of football and not necessarily in the best interests of athletics in general.
Title IX still applies so, at least from a scholarship standpoint, each University would need to have a commensurate number of women's sports. As you point out, whether they fund the operating costs of those sports at a lesser level is a different manner, but they couldn't completely throw away the rest of the athletic department and keep only football.
RE: Will football leave the NCAA - Phogge - 12-04-2020
That’s me Donkey, a romantic.