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MBB conference schedule - 82lsju - 09-29-2021





https://gostanford.com/news/2021/9/29/mens-basketball-mens-basketball-finalizes-schedule.aspx

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RE: MBB conference schedule - Papa John - 09-29-2021

So we don't get Utah on the road or OSU at home. Would it be that much more effort to have a full home-and-away round-robin schedule? Would eliminate the need for a Pac-12 tournament, which, in Stanford's case, would be a good thing...

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RE: MBB conference schedule - BobK - 09-29-2021

Pac 12 tournament helps recruiting. As in we have this they don't. Teams want pre season games, and there's a limit on how many games can be played.

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RE: MBB conference schedule - Papa John - 09-29-2021

I thought the Pac-12 tournament helped make money. I didn't know about the recruiting angle. Why would a prospect care about the Pac-12 tournament? I don't recall the exact numbers, but my memory is that the Pac-12 tournament is not widely watched. Certainly not the early rounds, which are on the network-few-get.

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RE: MBB conference schedule - BobK - 09-29-2021

Every major league has a league tournament. If one didn’t that would be a minus recruiting wise
I only go to the Women’s tournament and it’s very well attended. Pre Covid

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RE: MBB conference schedule - Papa John - 09-30-2021

Well, there was no men's Pac-10 conference tournament from 1991 through 2001. The conference won men's national championships in 1995 (UCLA) and 1997 (Arizona). No national champions during the Pac-10 or Pac-12 conference tournament eras although there have been a number of final fours.

In any case, Stanford had no trouble recruiting from 1991 through 2001. Lots of success during that time that I don't need to detail to this audience with Stanford commits who had actionable offers from other major conference schools. I just don't believe that a boy's high school recruit would make a commitment that was based on whether or not a conference had a season-ending tournament. I would think that a bigger factor would be if the majority of regular season games are played on a channel that most folks can't get without making special arrangements.

But I know that it's ultimately a silly complaint of mine, because the conference tournament is here to stay. And if Stanford ever wins it, I'll be in favor, of course.

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RE: MBB conference schedule - BobK - 09-30-2021

Actually Stanford won the NCAA just this past April.

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RE: MBB conference schedule - Papa John - 09-30-2021

(09-30-2021, 11:47 AM)BobK Wrote:  Actually Stanford won the NCAA just this past April.

And of course I support the women's conference tournament, because Stanford often wins it!

Seriously though, in 2020-21 pre-NCAA tournament the Stanford women were on national TV only four times out of 31 games, all on the ESPN network family. So having the Pac-12 conference tournament championship game actually made a difference in terms of national exposure, which, of course is woefully inadequate given the quality of the conference. 

I agree with your argument that, for women's basketball, having the Pac-12 tournament increases national visibility for the conference and could, in some way, foster better recruiting.

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RE: MBB conference schedule - oldalum - 09-30-2021

I wonder if having the conference tournament in Las Vegas might be a recruiting draw.

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RE: MBB conference schedule - Papa John - 09-30-2021

Las Vegas might be an attendance draw, but how is it a recruiting draw?

"Hey, Harrison, if you play at Stanford you'll get to play at least one game in March in Las Vegas on the Pac-12 network! And if we win two (or maybe three) games, you'll get to play on Fox on Saturday night!"

Here are the TV broadcasts for men's Pac-12 tournament games in 2019:
11 games total
3 on ESPN: 1 quarterfinal game at 8:30 pm PT, 1 semifinal game at 8:30 pm PT, championship game at 7:30 pm PT
All other games on the Pac-12 Network

And for the Big 12 2019 tournament:
9 games total
2 first-round games on ESPNU, 4 quarterfinal and both semifinal games on ESPN2, championship game at 5 pm CT on ESPN

B1G 2019 tournament:
13 games total
10 on Big Ten Network: 2 first-round games, 4 second-round games, 4 quarterfinal games
3 on CBS: both semifinals and championship game

ACC 2019 tournament:
14 games, all on ESPN, except for 1 first-game on ESPNU and 2 second-round games on ESPN2

SEC 2019 tournament:
13 games total
8 games on the SEC network: 2 first-round games, 4 second-round games, 2 quarterfinal games
5 games on ESPN: 2 quarterfinal games, both semifinals, championship game

Big East 2019 tournament:
9 games, the first 8 on FS1 and the championship game on Fox

Based on the above, the Pac-12 tournament is more of a hindrance than a help for recruiting. Heck, the West Coast Conference, Mountain West, American Athletic Conference and probably others had better TV exposure than the Pac-12 tournament in 2019! 

Maybe George Kliavkoff and his brain trust have a plan in place to elevate the tournament's stature. If so, I'm still not sure how that would help recruiting, but at least it might not hurt.

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RE: MBB conference schedule - BobK - 09-30-2021

Having a tournament is the recruiting issue. Not the tv possibles
Hmm SEC or Pac 12? Well the SEC is serious about basketball maybe the Pac 12 isn’t if they don’t have a post season tournament
My point is the players not fans watching on tv

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RE: MBB conference schedule - oldalum - 09-30-2021

(09-30-2021, 02:25 PM)Papa John Wrote:  Las Vegas might be an attendance draw, but how is it a recruiting draw?

I'm guessing few recruits have ever been there, and might want to go there.
But I'm admittedly not in tune with teenage basketball recruits' minds.

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