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Rough Outing for Mills - Austroturf - 10-03-2021

11-21 for 87 yards and 4 INTs in a 40-0 loss to the Bills.  Rating 23.4.  Ouch.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - Row80Critic - 10-03-2021

I fully understand his decision to go to the NFL this year.  Those opportunities are precarious, especially for a guy with a history of injuries.  That said, I'd the stars aligned, I'm sure he would have benefited from at least one full season as a starter in college, before trying to lead an NFL team....

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - Austroturf - 10-04-2021

(10-03-2021, 03:12 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:  I fully understand his decision to go to the NFL this year.  Those opportunities are precarious, especially for a guy with a history of injuries.  That said, I'd the stars aligned, I'm sure he would have benefited from at least one full season as a starter in college, before trying to lead an NFL team....
Agree.  Since 2015-2016, there has been a sea change in the attitude of college players with NFL aspirations.  Once your draft stock reaches a certain level, any additional game at the college level could potentially jeopardize your chances.  So bolt as soon as the mock draft has you at a high enough level, skip any meaningless bowl games and do not risk injury.  The extra year of experience that Mills might have gained with an additional season at the college level had to be weighed against the injury potential.  More relevant for Stanford now, McKee could bolt after just one season owing to his two-year Mormon mission.  Let's assume he closes out the season with stellar play, excites the pro scouts and is positioned as a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick.  Would he come back for his red shirt sophomore season?  Maybe, but he would be incurring a risk.  The times when we could count on an excellent player to stay for his entire eligibility are over.  No more eras defined by a top shelf QB like Luck or Hogan.  And in retrospect, KJ Costello should have bolted after the 2017 season.  His draft stock had not peaked, but he would have entered the NFL healthy and on an upward trending curve.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - baycommuter - 10-04-2021

Costello was in the 2016 recruiting class, so I thought he couldn't have left until after 2018.

(10-04-2021, 09:04 AM)Austroturf Wrote:  
(10-03-2021, 03:12 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:  I fully understand his decision to go to the NFL this year.  Those opportunities are precarious, especially for a guy with a history of injuries.  That said, I'd the stars aligned, I'm sure he would have benefited from at least one full season as a starter in college, before trying to lead an NFL team....
Agree.  Since 2015-2016, there has been a sea change in the attitude of college players with NFL aspirations.  Once your draft stock reaches a certain level, any additional game at the college level could potentially jeopardize your chances.  So bolt as soon as the mock draft has you at a high enough level, skip any meaningless bowl games and do not risk injury.  The extra year of experience that Mills might have gained with an additional season at the college level had to be weighed against the injury potential.  More relevant for Stanford now, McKee could bolt after just one season owing to his two-year Mormon mission.  Let's assume he closes out the season with stellar play, excites the pro scouts and is positioned as a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick.  Would he come back for his red shirt sophomore season?  Maybe, but he would be incurring a risk.  The times when we could count on an excellent player to stay for his entire eligibility are over.  No more eras defined by a top shelf QB like Luck or Hogan.  And in retrospect, KJ Costello should have bolted after the 2017 season.  His draft stock had not peaked, but he would have entered the NFL healthy and on an upward trending curve.


RE: Rough Outing for Mills - BostonCard - 10-04-2021

Costello graduated from high school in 2016, so the earliest he could have gone to the NFL was in the 2019 draft (the rules say you have to be three years out of high school).

BC

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - Treefence - 10-04-2021

I'm a Bills fan, and I can tell you watching the game I just felt bad for Mills eventually.  This Bills team probably has an elite defense, though they've only paid 3 backup QB's and Big Ben so far.  Houston is a bad team, and Mills is a rookie that wasn't an elite prospect.  I still think he could be something in the NFL, maybe just a backup QB, but this was a really tough game against a very good Bills team, in Buffalo.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - Austroturf - 10-04-2021

(10-04-2021, 10:45 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  Costello graduated from high school in 2016, so the earliest he could have gone to the NFL was in the 2019 draft (the rules say you have to be three years out of high school).

BC

This is true, but there can be exceptions.  I distinctly recall discussion about Costello after one of his Stanford seasons.  Maybe it was after the 2018 season, which would have meant the 2019 draft.  He decided to come back with obvious negative repercussions (injury, loss of starting job to Mills).    Anyway, he played two more seasons after 2018, and his draft stock took a hit each year.  Here is an article on Mills's tough outing on Sunday.    

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/texans-davis-mills-post-worst-nfl-qb-performance-in-3-seasons-per-this-measure-005845388.html
(10-04-2021, 09:09 AM)baycommuter Wrote:  Costello was in the 2016 recruiting class, so I thought he couldn't have left until after 2018.

(10-04-2021, 09:04 AM)Austroturf Wrote:  
(10-03-2021, 03:12 PM)Row80Critic Wrote:  I fully understand his decision to go to the NFL this year.  Those opportunities are precarious, especially for a guy with a history of injuries.  That said, I'd the stars aligned, I'm sure he would have benefited from at least one full season as a starter in college, before trying to lead an NFL team....
Agree.  Since 2015-2016, there has been a sea change in the attitude of college players with NFL aspirations.  Once your draft stock reaches a certain level, any additional game at the college level could potentially jeopardize your chances.  So bolt as soon as the mock draft has you at a high enough level, skip any meaningless bowl games and do not risk injury.  The extra year of experience that Mills might have gained with an additional season at the college level had to be weighed against the injury potential.  More relevant for Stanford now, McKee could bolt after just one season owing to his two-year Mormon mission.  Let's assume he closes out the season with stellar play, excites the pro scouts and is positioned as a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick.  Would he come back for his red shirt sophomore season?  Maybe, but he would be incurring a risk.  The times when we could count on an excellent player to stay for his entire eligibility are over.  No more eras defined by a top shelf QB like Luck or Hogan.  And in retrospect, KJ Costello should have bolted after the 2017 season.  His draft stock had not peaked, but he would have entered the NFL healthy and on an upward trending curve.

Correct.  I probably confused 2017 with 2018.  Anyway, he came back after 2018, and it did not help his draft stock.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - OutsiderFan - 10-10-2021

Davis Mills is having a game today.

He's out-dueling Mac Jones and Patriots through 2.5 quarters. 

14-19 246 3 TDs and 0 INTs.

He's gonna have his first 300 yd passing game and first win, barring something very unforeseen happening.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - Phogge - 10-10-2021

I am loving Belechik getting mashed early and often. A scumbag coach who once went out of his way to punch an old photographer (not me). Woody Hayes Junior.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - CompSci87 - 10-10-2021

300 yards yes, a win no. I missed most of what happened. Started following on stats when it was 22-22, but the Pats used almost the whole clock before kicking a field goal to go up. Mills couldn't do anything after getting the ball back with 0:17 left.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - old spanish trail - 10-10-2021

Not so rough today vs Patriots good defense.  Mills was 21 for 29 and 305 yds with 3 TDs and no int. Was ahead going into second half when apparently some strange coaching decisions didn't help. Lost by 7 I think.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - OutsiderFan - 10-11-2021

The Texans beat themselves.

They missed two extra points and a FG.  Also had a killer roughing the passer penalty on a 3rd and 17 incompletion in 4th quarter drive Patriots kicked game winning FG. And, some dreadful clock management by Texans too.

Mills looks pretty on par with Jones. He's better than Trey Lance right now, which isn't surprising.

RE: Rough Outing for Mills - needle - 10-11-2021

(10-11-2021, 04:57 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  The Texans beat themselves.

They missed two extra points and a FG.  Also had a killer roughing the passer penalty on a 3rd and 17 incompletion in 4th quarter drive Patriots kicked game winning FG. And, some dreadful clock management by Texans too.

Mills looks pretty on par with Jones. He's better than Trey Lance right now, which isn't surprising.

I know one TD pass from Mills shouldn't have been thrown--the receiver was double-covered near the sideline, and by all rights the ball should have been knocked down if not intercepted. 

Mills played well on Sunday but he's going to get hit consistently given the state of the Texans offensive line. I'm hoping for his sake that the injured starter returns soon.