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Aug26 Chronicle artcle - lex24 - 08-26-2022

“We are going to be unstoppable “. McKee.  

I get the digital version.  Was reading the article on the football team.  After three paragraphs, it suddenly shifted to womens field hockey.  There was an article on womens hockey.  After three paragraphs - there was the rest of the football article.

Pathetic.  That shouldn’t happen on a High School news page.  Much less a so-called major newspaper.

In any event, if the offensive line performs, the offense should be good.  It will have to be.  Because defensively, I don’t have much hope.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - Phogge - 08-26-2022

Chronicle has always been a Cal paper. Just like the plates on my wife’s car.

My truck has Gator plates.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - Phogge - 08-26-2022

The Chron picked up the story inside on page 4 I think. Many more paras and it was the digital edition. Read on Lex.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - gailtate - 08-26-2022

I read this days ago. Very unfortunate comment by a kid who is NOT a kid. Think about this. Plunkett, Bunce, Benjamin, Dils, Schonert, Elway, Stenstrom, Husak, Luck, Hogan...Ever read any of them publicly declare that their offense would be "unstoppable"? Jeezus.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - Phogge - 08-26-2022

You left out my favorite Stanford player, Bobby Garrett. I'm going to down vote you. Oops! forgot.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - lex24 - 08-27-2022

(08-26-2022, 09:03 AM)Phogge Wrote:  The Chron picked up the story inside on page 4 I think. Many more paras and it was the digital edition. Read on Lex.

I did.  When you click on an article it pulls up so it’s a single article on the page.  And provides both the first page and whatever page the article goes to.   That was where the “split” occured.
(08-26-2022, 04:37 PM)gailtate Wrote:  I read this days ago. Very unfortunate comment by a kid who is NOT a kid. Think about this. Plunkett, Bunce, Benjamin, Dils, Schonert, Elway, Stenstrom, Husak, Luck, Hogan...Ever read any of them publicly declare that their offense would be "unstoppable"? Jeezus.

BFD.  But  anyone making any comment about Stanford football that is positive is going to draw your ire.  They very well may stink as much as you want them to.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - newguy - 08-28-2022

(08-26-2022, 08:11 AM)Phogge Wrote:  Chronicle has always been a Cal paper. Just like the plates on my wife’s car.

My truck has Gator plates.

i'm not an MFCC, but i recommend swapping out her plates for Stanford plates.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - Phogge - 08-28-2022

Go Bears. LOL.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - thunder_chik - 08-28-2022

Unfortunately, the virtue of being humble has gone the way of the dodo.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - VB Card - 08-29-2022

Stanford Daily offense preview 

https://stanforddaily.com/2022/08/28/stanford-football-offensive-preview/

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - CTcard - 08-29-2022

(08-29-2022, 05:36 AM)VB Card Wrote:  Stanford Daily offense preview 

https://stanforddaily.com/2022/08/28/stanford-football-offensive-preview/

Not a bad summary for a student article, all in all. 
He does seem awfully confident in a running back with 26 career carries. 
And, it seems obligatory to try to reconcile the following two statements:
"McKee’s top tier arm strength and accuracy will make him one of the top quarterbacks in the conference, if not the country, this upcoming season."
versus
"Pro Football Focus had him in the bottom five of Power Five quarterbacks last season"

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - msqueri - 08-29-2022

(08-29-2022, 07:59 AM)CTcard Wrote:  
(08-29-2022, 05:36 AM)VB Card Wrote:  Stanford Daily offense preview 

https://stanforddaily.com/2022/08/28/stanford-football-offensive-preview/

Not a bad summary for a student article, all in all. 
He does seem awfully confident in a running back with 26 career carries. 
And, it seems obligatory to try to reconcile the following two statements:
"McKee’s top tier arm strength and accuracy will make him one of the top quarterbacks in the conference, if not the country, this upcoming season."
versus
"Pro Football Focus had him in the bottom five of Power Five quarterbacks last season"

It's a very good article, as far as these things go. Reactions to the article/your comments:

* Smith is a very intriguing, mysterious player for 2022. Based on his career trajectory thus far, it would be shocking if he were great. On the other hand, the buzz is really significant and he has everything one could wish for in terms of supporting cast. I don't think he has to be very good to have a 1000 yard season and, as far as casual observers are concerned, that would essentially be prima facie evidence he's good, as most people are quick to credit/blame running backs for their stats regardless of how good/bad the situation is. I'm finding myself thinking Smith will have a significant year even despite his piddling 26 career games.

* The reference could have been more clearly written in the article but you're somewhat mischaracterizing the PFF reference. It's not bottom five of Power Five QBs last season, it's bottom five of Power Five QBs last season when under pressure. Nonetheless, it's true PFF didn't like McKee last season - they had him 51st of 63 Power Five QBs. Personally, I agree with the article's characterization of McKee as being very good when healthy. The only games that were significantly worse than what the opposing pass defense typically allowed were Kansas State (Jack West!), Utah (no McKee or any receivers other than Yurosek and Wilson), Oregon State (no McKee, WR corps still banged up), and Cal (McKee coming off injury and played crappy). In the other eight games (read: when McKee was healthy/playing/not coming back from injury), our passing game consistently put a lot of pressure on opposing defenses relative to what they typically allowed. I think it's reasonable for us to expect a lot out of McKee. But certainly the PFF skepticism last year is interesting.

* It will be interesting to see the early season lineup at OL, whether it's gelled, and how quick the hook is for any under-performing player as we'll have a proven starter ready to go off the bench. Like the article, I anticipate Hornibrook will leap-frog Miller based on what we're hearing from practices, which is an interesting development as Miller has tended to be the 1A option at guard during their careers and PFF, at least, does not think Hornibrook has been better than Miller. Something interesting happened this off-season if Hornibrook leap-frogged. It will also be interesting, of course, whether Hinton has massively improved and, if not, how quick the hook is given Miller waiting in the wings. By the way, the article talked about Hinton having the worst PFF grade in Shaw's history, but it's actually the worst PFF grade by a starting lineman in Pac-12 history.

* One can always quibble/have one's own views on grades. I'd probably say QB is a B+, running back is a B- (closer to C+ than B for me given depth/health history), wide receiver is an A, tight end is an A-, and offensive line is a B+.

* I agree with the article that that layout of the offensive roster has no excuse but to be one of the best in the conference. USC has better talent but aside from that there's no more than one or two teams in the conference who'd get grades as good as the above from me.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - Phogge - 08-29-2022

(08-28-2022, 02:33 AM)newguy Wrote:  
(08-26-2022, 08:11 AM)Phogge Wrote:  Chronicle has always been a Cal paper. Just like the plates on my wife’s car.

My truck has Gator plates.

i'm not an MFCC, but i recommend swapping out her plates for Stanford plates.

Okay, I'll bite. What is an MFCC? I can guess one version of MF.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - gailtate - 08-29-2022

(08-27-2022, 07:02 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(08-26-2022, 09:03 AM)Phogge Wrote:  The Chron picked up the story inside on page 4 I think. Many more paras and it was the digital edition. Read on Lex.

I did.  When you click on an article it pulls up so it’s a single article on the page.  And provides both the first page and whatever page the article goes to.   That was where the “split” occured.
(08-26-2022, 04:37 PM)gailtate Wrote:  I read this days ago. Very unfortunate comment by a kid who is NOT a kid. Think about this. Plunkett, Bunce, Benjamin, Dils, Schonert, Elway, Stenstrom, Husak, Luck, Hogan...Ever read any of them publicly declare that their offense would be "unstoppable"? Jeezus.

BFD.  But  anyone making any comment about Stanford football that is positive is going to draw your ire.  They very well may stink as much as you want them to.

No, they will draw my fair comments. Same as I just drew yours. BTW, had some urine leaked into your Granola the morning I drew YOUR ire? No response necessary. Because I don't give a ****.  Hope your day improves.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - SamuelMcF - 08-29-2022

(08-29-2022, 12:19 PM)gailtate Wrote:  
(08-27-2022, 07:02 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(08-26-2022, 09:03 AM)Phogge Wrote:  The Chron picked up the story inside on page 4 I think. Many more paras and it was the digital edition. Read on Lex.

I did.  When you click on an article it pulls up so it’s a single article on the page.  And provides both the first page and whatever page the article goes to.   That was where the “split” occured.
(08-26-2022, 04:37 PM)gailtate Wrote:  I read this days ago. Very unfortunate comment by a kid who is NOT a kid. Think about this. Plunkett, Bunce, Benjamin, Dils, Schonert, Elway, Stenstrom, Husak, Luck, Hogan...Ever read any of them publicly declare that their offense would be "unstoppable"? Jeezus.

BFD.  But  anyone making any comment about Stanford football that is positive is going to draw your ire.  They very well may stink as much as you want them to.

No, they will draw my fair comments. Same as I just drew yours. BTW, had some urine leaked into your Granola the morning I drew YOUR ire? No response necessary. Because I don't give a ****.  Hope your day improves.

"No response necessary" in a response is funny.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - BostonCard - 08-29-2022

Probably worth noting when evaluating McKee’s performance that we had one of the crappiest running games in the conference, and defenses could prep to defend the pass.

PFF grades are supposed to take into account the players actions in isolation, but how do you take into account an opposing defense playing not to let the passing game beat them.

BC

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - lex24 - 08-29-2022

(08-29-2022, 12:19 PM)gailtate Wrote:  
(08-27-2022, 07:02 PM)lex24 Wrote:  
(08-26-2022, 09:03 AM)Phogge Wrote:  The Chron picked up the story inside on page 4 I think. Many more paras and it was the digital edition. Read on Lex.

I did.  When you click on an article it pulls up so it’s a single article on the page.  And provides both the first page and whatever page the article goes to.   That was where the “split” occured.
(08-26-2022, 04:37 PM)gailtate Wrote:  I read this days ago. Very unfortunate comment by a kid who is NOT a kid. Think about this. Plunkett, Bunce, Benjamin, Dils, Schonert, Elway, Stenstrom, Husak, Luck, Hogan...Ever read any of them publicly declare that their offense would be "unstoppable"? Jeezus.

BFD.  But  anyone making any comment about Stanford football that is positive is going to draw your ire.  They very well may stink as much as you want them to.

No, they will draw my fair comments. Same as I just drew yours. BTW, had some urine leaked into your Granola the morning I drew YOUR ire? No response necessary. Because I don't give a ****.  Hope your day improves.

You never miss an opportunity to tell us how crappy everything relating to Stanford football is. So, why the hissy fit?

Innocuous comment from the QB. You gotta slam. Jeezus.

Try prunes.  They might help.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - cardcrimson - 08-29-2022

To be fair, I wasn't sure where the OP was going. A criticism on the Chronicle, or on the QB for the quote. . . .

The green Sporting Green of my youth is sadly long since gone. Loved it back in the day. As for Tanner, an immature quote, but I sure hope he's right.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - JohnR34231 - 08-30-2022

(08-29-2022, 09:11 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  To be fair, I wasn't sure where the OP was going. A criticism on the Chronicle, or on the QB for the quote. . . .

The green Sporting Green of my youth is sadly long since gone. Loved it back in the day. As for Tanner, an immature quote, but I sure hope he's right.

I thought Tanner was just expressing the EUTM that people complain the team doesn't have any more.

RE: Aug26 Chronicle artcle - VB Card - 08-30-2022

And the defense preview. 

https://stanforddaily.com/2022/08/30/stanford-footballs-new-look-defense-ready-to-show-improvement-in-2020/