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Rampant cheating - BostonCard - 10-01-2022
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Yes, someone cheated in a fishing competition.
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/27/1125316142/chess-magnus-carlsen-hans-niemann-cheating
But if fishing is too low brow for you, cheating allegations have surfaced in the world of professional chess.
I get the ole SEC adage “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”, but seriously, wtf is wrong with the world?
BC
RE: Rampant cheating - PVTree - 10-01-2022
Also in poker.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indy100.com/amp/poker-cheating-scandal-robbi-lew-2658369109
RE: Rampant cheating - BostonCard - 10-01-2022
Bad link. This one? https://www.indy100.com/sport/poker-cheating-scandal-robbi-lew
I’m shocked that there would be cheating in poker.
BC
RE: Rampant cheating - CompSci87 - 10-01-2022
(10-01-2022, 09:43 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I’m shocked that there would be cheating in poker.
https://youtu.be/SjbPi00k_ME
RE: Rampant cheating - Phogge - 10-01-2022
At least there is no cheating in marriage.
RE: Rampant cheating - newguy - 10-02-2022
(10-01-2022, 11:57 PM)Phogge Wrote: At least there is no cheating in marriage.hey, men have needs.
RE: Rampant cheating - BostonCard - 10-02-2022
Laughed at this one…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-chess-players-cheat-is-any-game-safe-11664482311?mod=djemwhatsnews
BC
RE: Rampant cheating - ca245 - 10-04-2022
Another cheating accusation.
And now poker?
RE: Rampant cheating - cardcrimson - 10-04-2022
(10-04-2022, 11:15 AM)ca245 Wrote: Another cheating accusation.
And now poker?
Shown a few posts above. . . .
RE: Rampant cheating - BostonCard - 10-04-2022
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chess-cheating-hans-niemann-report-magnus-carlsen-11664911524?mod=djemwhatsnews
Yikes, evidently the investigation showed that Niemann did, in fact, cheat, which he admitted.
BC
RE: Rampant cheating - newguy - 10-04-2022
some of Niemann's over-the-board games have a 100% correlation to Stockfish, which is the top-ranked chess engine.
it's rare for any human player to have a correlation above 80%. even Fischer during his 20-game winning streak had a correlation below 80%.
RE: Rampant cheating - CompSci87 - 10-04-2022
(10-04-2022, 10:08 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://www.wsj.com/articles/chess-cheating-hans-niemann-report-magnus-carlsen-11664911524?mod=djemwhatsnews
Yikes, evidently the investigation showed that Niemann did, in fact, cheat, which he admitted.
BC
The report that WSJ references is available in full: https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/hans-niemann-report
RE: Rampant cheating - BostonCard - 10-07-2022
When I started this thread, little did I know that *checks notes* Irish Dancing(?!) would be implicated in a cheating scandal, but here we are.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-dancing-rocked-by-major-allegations-of-competition-fixing-involving-dance-teachers-and-judges-42043659.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
BC
RE: Rampant cheating - BostonCard - 10-07-2022
Apparently, I’m not the only one to have picked up on the rampant cheating…
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/06/chess-cheating-candal-poker-wpt-tour
But, I mean, who could have guessed that there would be a cheating scandal in cycling too?
BC
RE: Rampant cheating - ca245 - 10-11-2022
Even in Fat Bear Week :)
LINK
RE: Rampant cheating - cardcrimson - 10-12-2022
(10-07-2022, 10:21 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Apparently, I’m not the only one to have picked up on the rampant cheating…
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/06/chess-cheating-candal-poker-wpt-tour
But, I mean, who could have guessed that there would be a cheating scandal in cycling too?
BC
How did the list not include the Patriots?
RE: Rampant cheating - martyup - 10-12-2022
In my lifetime, I've personally encountered cheating in numerous competitions, especially when judging is subjective, and other endeavors. Included in this list is rodeo, wrestling (folk and freestyle), dance marathon, costume contests, Monopoly board games, school exams, speeding, employee timecards, card games, theft, litigation (judges and lawyers), and many others I've allowed my mind to forget.
IMO, cheating is instinctual in human beings. Breaking rules to gain advantage is highly seductive. Most of us are only dissuaded from cheating by the risk of being caught and the consequences that follow. Some, very few IMO, have a personal moral code that allows them to resist the temptation to cheat. Many others are guided by religion, which almost universally proscribes cheating.
The less risk averse a person is, the more likely they will break rules. Our prisons are full of persons with little or no risk aversion.
RE: Rampant cheating - BostonCard - 10-12-2022
How does one cheat at theft?
BC
RE: Rampant cheating - oldalum - 10-12-2022
No honor among thieves?
RE: Rampant cheating - M T - 10-12-2022
I'm no philosopher but ....
If you and I are running from a tiger chasing us, is it cheating if you can run faster? Should you have to carry some heavy stones so you don't run faster? Is it cheating if I hang onto your belt so you don't get far ahead?
Can you cheat at solitaire? Who did you cheat?
Was it cheating when Stanford could offer athletes a better 40-year view of their college years?