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Davis Mills - old spanish trail - 11-03-2022

We watched the Houston/Phil FB game instead of the Series. Phil won 29-17 and Mills was 13 -22 or somewhere around there, two TD's and two int. On one, bad throw. Other at end of game. He was without the two top receivers, including Brandon Cooks, who has issues, or something. Mills also ran 3 times for good enuf yardage. Thomas Booker, who I don't think played in early season games, played about 1/3 of defensive snaps, had several good rushes, and, as usual, never stopped until the whistle. Houston obviously evaluating whether they should ride with Mills. I thought he looked pretty good.

RE: Davis Mills - gocard14 - 11-03-2022

(11-03-2022, 08:43 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:  We watched the Houston/Phil FB game instead of the Series. Phil won 29-17 and Mills was 13 -22 or somewhere around there, two TD's and two int. On one, bad throw. Other at end of game. He was without the two top receivers, including Brandon Cooks, who has issues, or something. Mills also ran 3 times for good enuf yardage. Thomas Booker, who I don't think played in early season games, played about 1/3 of defensive snaps, had several good rushes, and, as usual, never stopped until the whistle. Houston obviously evaluating whether they should ride with Mills. I thought he looked pretty good.

He has looked good overall, honestly the best of the QBs in his class except for maybe Lawrence (Lance gets an incomplete). That said, he is still a low-end starter, probably around the 25-28 range right now and the problem is that his ceiling projects to be lower then others. Plus the team is lest invested in him then other teams are based on draft capital. 

Realistically if you want to win a Super Bowl you need a top 10 QB. Right now, he’s not that, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Texans move on in the next draft. That said, he may have earned himself a career as a high-end backup, which may be the best job in the NFL. 5-10 mil/year to stay ready and not get hit isn’t a bad gig, though I’d also love to see him get a shot as a starter on an actually good team.

RE: Davis Mills - needle - 11-04-2022

Still an enigma. He has the arm talent for sure but way too many interceptions. His receivers at the moment are C-level guys but they made some nice catches and actually helped him out quite a bit against the Eagles. The Texans RB is a burgeoning star. Mills should be playing way better than last year but the Texans really struggle in pass protection and being an NFL QB is not easy.

Also, I feel obligated to repeat what I’ve been posting for years: Trevor Lawrence is never going to be a quality NFL starter and is one of the most overrated NFL prospects of all time.

RE: Davis Mills - lex24 - 11-04-2022

(11-04-2022, 06:27 AM)needle Wrote:  Still an enigma. He has the arm talent for sure but way too many interceptions. His receivers at the moment are C-level guys but they made some nice catches and actually helped him out quite a bit against the Eagles. The Texans RB is a burgeoning star. Mills should be playing way better than last year but the Texans really struggle in pass protection and being an NFL QB is not easy.

Also, I feel obligated to repeat what I’ve been posting for years: Trevor Lawrence is never going to be a quality NFL starter and is one of the most overrated NFL prospects of all time.

Lawrence has shown some improvement.  He has all the skills. Don’t know about the ”intangibles “. Takes time. Especially when it’s on a lousy team.  That goes for all the second year QBs. Mills included.  Gaining consistency and avoiding mistakes. Mills has a good RB.  Receivers are meh.  At best.  Houston will have a high first. We will see, I think, what they think of Mills through that draft.

RE: Davis Mills - msqueri - 11-04-2022

For what it's worth here are the Total QBR rankings for that class of QBs so far this year:

21. Trevor Lawrence
23. Justin Fields
24. Zach Wilson
29. Mac Jones
31. Davis Mills

(Out of 33)

One can quibble with the order but I think it's clear Mills hasn't played well enough to make the Texans' decision remotely difficult. He really needs to turn it on the rest of the way. There are two things working against him. First, not only is his individual performance not great but he hasn't been getting wins, which means that the Texans are in line for a very high pick. One of the things Mills could have done this season to protect himself would have been to have played the Texans into a draft slot in which they could have only gotten a top QB by trading up. Second, the Texans are in line to have two very high picks in this draft. Currently I believe they're in line for the #2 and #9 picks.

The combination of Mills' performance and the Texans' draft slots makes it very likely they'll draft somebody among CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, or Will Levis.

RE: Davis Mills - Phogge - 11-04-2022

Stroud, Young, Hooker, Levis, DTR, Sanders, Richardson...

Can’t see Houston passing on a QB.

RE: Davis Mills - slide - 11-04-2022

(11-04-2022, 07:07 AM)msqueri Wrote:  The combination of Mills' performance and the Texans' draft slots makes it very likely they'll draft somebody among CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, or Will Levis.

I don't see it with Levis.  so far, he has not looked great in the SEC this year.  may be more INTs than TDs.  not much on the ground etc.

RE: Davis Mills - msqueri - 11-04-2022

(11-04-2022, 10:52 AM)slide Wrote:  
(11-04-2022, 07:07 AM)msqueri Wrote:  The combination of Mills' performance and the Texans' draft slots makes it very likely they'll draft somebody among CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, or Will Levis.

I don't see it with Levis.  so far, he has not looked great in the SEC this year.  may be more INTs than TDs.  not much on the ground etc.

I haven't been impressed either but from what I've seen some scouts disagree and still think he's top tier. In any case, after seeing what Josh Allen has become in the NFL no amount of college crappiness will make me rule out a toolsy player.