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NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - burger - 11-08-2022
The Times has an article today on sex and NIL deals for women athletes. There are several good quotes from Tara and Haley Jones.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/08/sports/ncaabasketball/olivia-dunne-haley-jones-endorsements.html
I don't spend much time on social media, so this was news to me. Interesting story.
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - Treebound - 11-08-2022
Thanks for sharing this Burger. It does paint both Tara and Haley Jones in a positive light, which is great for Stanford. It's too bad that the NIL rule came about after Katie Ladecky decided to leave the womens swim team. The NIL rules would have allowed her to stay on the Stanford team and still earn those 7 figure deals. The cooperatives came about as a way to manipulate the intent of NIL and enable it to be used for recruiting purposes. I continue to believe/hope that it will be reigned in and restructured, but right now it's the wild, wild west...or maybe the wild, wild Southeast Conference.
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - cardcrimson - 11-08-2022
(11-08-2022, 08:19 AM)Treebound Wrote: Thanks for sharing this Burger. It does paint both Tara and Haley Jones in a positive light, which is great for Stanford. It's too bad that the NIL rule came about after Katie Ladecky decided to leave the womens swim team. The NIL rules would have allowed her to stay on the Stanford team and still earn those 7 figure deals. The cooperatives came about as a way to manipulate the intent of NIL and enable it to be used for recruiting purposes. I continue to believe/hope that it will be reigned in and restructured, but right now it's the wild, wild west...or maybe the wild, wild Southeast Conference.
I may be wrong, Katie enrolled at Stanford in 2016, turned pro in 2018, finished her coursework in 2020 and graduated in 2021. Don't think NIL made any difference to Katie's situation, even with it, she would have used up her four years at Stanford before she made the move to Florida. She is not swimming for the Gators NCAA team, she's practicing with the graduate team . . . .
Here's an article on the apparent reasoning.
https://www.si.com/olympics/2021/09/22/katie-ledecky-changes-training-base-university-of-florida-nesty
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - lex24 - 11-08-2022
Paywall. Only saw the picture. If “sex-appeal” is part of the equation. Well, duh…… That’s inherent in advertising.
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - msqueri - 11-08-2022
(11-08-2022, 08:19 AM)Treebound Wrote: Thanks for sharing this Burger. It does paint both Tara and Haley Jones in a positive light, which is great for Stanford. It's too bad that the NIL rule came about after Katie Ladecky decided to leave the womens swim team. The NIL rules would have allowed her to stay on the Stanford team and still earn those 7 figure deals. The cooperatives came about as a way to manipulate the intent of NIL and enable it to be used for recruiting purposes. I continue to believe/hope that it will be reigned in and restructured, but right now it's the wild, wild west...or maybe the wild, wild Southeast Conference.
Agree with you that hopefully the current NIL landscape is a blip on a longer trajectory toward a more rationalized system and realize the "wild, wild Southeast Conference" was a fun rhetorical flourish, but for what it's worth something that's been interesting about NIL so far is that an analysis by conference heading into the season found that the SEC was bringing up the rear in NIL deals:
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/opendorse-big-ten-leads-division-i-in-nil-compensation-insights-activity-name-image-likeness/
A year prior the Big 10 was also found to be the top NIL dog by a separate analysis:
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/big-ten-leads-all-conferences-in-nil-compensation-activity/
I'm not sure what the ground truth is as it's early and still opaque days when it comes to this landscape. But it seems clear the Big 10 is a very major player.
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - SamuelMcF - 11-08-2022
(11-08-2022, 08:52 AM)msqueri Wrote: Agree with you that hopefully the current NIL landscape is a blip on a longer trajectory toward a more rationalized system and realize the "wild, wild Southeast Conference" was a fun rhetorical flourish, but for what it's worth something that's been interesting about NIL so far is that an analysis by conference heading into the season found that the SEC was bringing up the rear in NIL deals:
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/opendorse-big-ten-leads-division-i-in-nil-compensation-insights-activity-name-image-likeness/
A year prior the Big 10 was also found to be the top NIL dog by a separate analysis:
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/big-ten-leads-all-conferences-in-nil-compensation-activity/
I'm not sure what the ground truth is as it's early and still opaque days when it comes to this landscape. But it seems clear the Big 10 is a very major player.
From the first article:
"Opendorse released updated data Tuesday, which ran through August, reflecting new information on where transactions are taking place and which sports have found success. As it has been since the NIL software initially released data last fall, the Big Ten remains the leader for NIL compensation and activity.
The release of this type of data from major NIL service providers is probably the best glimpse of the market the public can receive at this point in time. With the number of NIL deals being disclosed somewhere below 50 percent, marketplace data is truly the best glimpse. All data from Opendorse comes from the activity on their products."
These figures are only for NIL deals occurring on Opendorse's platform. Opendorse is located in...drumroll please...Lincoln, Nebraska. Home of a certain Big Ten team, and right in the Big Ten footprint. Every one of their "school testimonials" are from Big Ten coaches/ADs/media people. So of course the Big Ten leads on it!
I'd take this with a hail-sized grain of salt, and it strikes me as incredibly misleading for On3 to claim that a platform based in, and started for, Big Ten country generalizes to the whole NIL landscape.
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - BostonCard - 11-08-2022
Wasn’t Texas A&M the NIL biggie last year, to the point that Nick Saban lamented competing against its big wallet? I believe the aggies had the top recruiting class.
BC
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - Phogge - 11-09-2022
Don’t prefer blonds.
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - 2006alum - 11-09-2022
(11-09-2022, 12:43 AM)Phogge Wrote: Don’t prefer blonds.Relax, they don't prefer you, either.
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - Phogge - 11-09-2022
Always relaxed son. On the road GUE.
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - BostonCard - 11-09-2022
(11-08-2022, 08:43 AM)lex24 Wrote: Paywall. Only saw the picture. If “sex-appeal” is part of the equation. Well, duh…… That’s inherent in advertising.
Yeah, that's basically the article...
Quote:But the new flood of money — and the way many female athletes are attaining it — troubles some who have fought for equitable treatment in women’s sports and say that it rewards traditional feminine desirability over athletic excellence. And while the female athletes I spoke to said they were consciously deciding whether to play up or down their sexuality, some observers say that the market is dictating that choice.
...
Scroll through the social media posts from female college athletes across the United States and you will find that a significant through line on many of the women’s accounts is the well-trod and well-proven notion that sexiness sells. Posts catering to traditional ideals about what makes women appealing to men do well, and the market backs that up.
I know, dog bites man; news at 11.
BC
RE: NY Times on sex and NIL with lots of Stanford content - burger - 11-09-2022
(11-08-2022, 08:43 AM)lex24 Wrote: Paywall. Only saw the picture. If “sex-appeal” is part of the equation. Well, duh…… That’s inherent in advertising.
Use reader mode in firefox.