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WBB: Stanford 72 UCLA 59 - 81alum - 01-10-2023
Preview:
UCLA is an excellent team this year--certainly better than Cal that almost defeated us in their place. UCLA is 14-2, with one loss being a 9 point loss to South Carolina and the other being at Oregon State with their star Charisma Osborne sitting it out due to injury. They beat Oregon @ Oregon and beat Tennessee easily. They are 8th in the AP, 13th by Massey, and 26th in Net. I trust the AP. In short, their pedigree is outstanding, and they certainly are the best team we have faced this year other than South Carolina--and we get them at their place.
Like Cal, UCLA is led by two superb guards. We Cardboarders wanted both of them at Stanford. Each of these guards also are among the team leaders in rebounds, which I found interesting.
UCLA's leading scorer is 5'9" senior guard Charisma Osborne. She plays 35 minutes a game, scores 17, shoots well enough from 3 (but is not usually an elite long range shooter,) rebounds well, always has a few assists, is a key defender, and shoots 84% of her many free throws. In the past we had elite defenders to guard her, but this will be a new adventure.
UCLA's second leading scorer is 5'11" freshman guard Kiki Rice. Rice is not yet a good three point shooter, but she is scoring 13 ppg on a whopping 47% shooting--clearly she gets a lot of layups and accurate mid range jumpers. She also has 50 assists to 26 turnovers.
Emily Bessoir is a 6'4" sophomore from Germany who gives them real height in the paint but who also shoots 36% of her threes, scores 8ppg. Brink can probably guard her either inside or outside. I expect to see those two battling. On the other hand, against USC in their last game, UCLA started freshman Lina Sontag in place of Emily Bessoir. Sontag is a 6'3" forward. She played 14 minutes and Bessoir came in from the bench and played 30. So Close seems to be experimenting with her lineup and trying to work her freshmen into it.
Gina Conti is a 5'11" grad student guard who transferred from Wake Forest who does a little bit of everything.
The fifth starter has been Camryn Brown, a 5'11" senior guard, but she has not played that many minutes and averages only 3ppg, so I presume she is a stout defender.
UCLA has some outstanding bench players. Londynn Jones, a 5'4" freshman guard has had some outstanding games as she adjusts to college, as has 5'11" Gabriella Jaquez, a 5'11 freshman forward.
As a team, UCLA is smaller and quicker than we are. Fortunately we have played a number of teams that present that kind of challenge, like Cal just did. Close is not my favorite coach, but ever since she shut Chiney down I have learned to respect her defensive adjustments. She is probably pouring over tape from the Cal game as you read this and will take what she can from it. UCLA makes about 6-7 treys a game but shoots free throws very well. They turn the ball over about 14 times a game but make up for a lot of that with a whopping 9 steals per game.
On offense, and coming after the Cal game I think Tara needs to solve our offensive problems, since UCLA poses similar challenges with higher quality players. Given our size advantage she will want us to go inside over and over, where we will have the advantage. But hitting some treys will make that a lot easier.
On defense we will probably guard the paint to prevent the UCLA speedy guards from getting around us for open layups, so UCLA's three point shooting will be tested. Can we guard the mid-range jumpers? Are we quick enough to prevent a 4-guard team from getting layups and doing it without fouling?
We will find out on Friday night.
PS. I went to ESPN Replay to find a previous UCLA game to watch. There isn't a single one available. I do wish Pac 12 networks made replay games available, but they don't.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - jk1926 - 01-10-2023
(01-10-2023, 11:07 AM)81alum Wrote: Preview:
UCLA is an excellent team this year--certainly better than Cal that almost defeated us in their place. UCLA is 14-2, with one loss being a 9 point loss to South Carolina and the other being at Oregon State with their star Charisma Osborne sitting it out due to injury. They beat Oregon @ Oregon and beat Tennessee easily. They are 8th in the AP, 13th by Massey, and 26th in Net. I trust the AP. In short, their pedigree is outstanding, and they certainly are the best team we have faced this year other than South Carolina--and we get them at their place.
Like Cal, UCLA is led by two superb guards. We Cardboarders wanted both of them at Stanford. Each of these guards also are among the team leaders in rebounds, which I found interesting.
UCLA's leading scorer is 5'9" senior guard Charisma Osborne. She plays 35 minutes a game, scores 17, shoots well enough from 3 (but is not usually an elite long range shooter,) rebounds well, always has a few assists, is a key defender, and shoots 84% of her many free throws. In the past we had elite defenders to guard her, but this will be a new adventure.
UCLA's second leading scorer is 5'11" freshman guard Kiki Rice. Rice is not yet a good three point shooter, but she is scoring 13 ppg on a whopping 47% shooting--clearly she gets a lot of layups and accurate mid range jumpers. She also has 50 assists to 26 turnovers.
Emily Bessoir is a 6'4" sophomore from Germany who gives them real height in the paint but who also shoots 36% of her threes, scores 8ppg. Brink can probably guard her either inside or outside. I expect to see those two battling. On the other hand, against USC in their last game, UCLA started freshman Lina Sontag in place of Emily Bessoir. Sontag is a 6'3" forward. She played 14 minutes and Bessoir came in from the bench and played 30. So Close seems to be experimenting with her lineup and trying to work her freshmen into it.
Gina Conti is a 5'11" grad student guard who transferred from Wake Forest who does a little bit of everything.
The fifth starter has been Camryn Brown, a 5'11" senior guard, but she has not played that many minutes and averages only 3ppg, so I presume she is a stout defender.
UCLA has some outstanding bench players. Londynn Jones, a 5'4" freshman guard has had some outstanding games as she adjusts to college, as has 5'11" Gabriella Jaquez, a 5'11 freshman forward.
As a team, UCLA is smaller and quicker than we are. Fortunately we have played a number of teams that present that kind of challenge, like Cal just did. Close is not my favorite coach, but ever since she shut Chiney down I have learned to respect her defensive adjustments. She is probably pouring over tape from the Cal game as you read this and will take what she can from it. UCLA makes about 6-7 treys a game but shoots free throws very well. They turn the ball over about 14 times a game but make up for a lot of that with a whopping 9 steals per game.
On offense, and coming after the Cal game I think Tara needs to solve our offensive problems, since UCLA poses similar challenges with higher quality players. Given our size advantage she will want us to go inside over and over, where we will have the advantage. But hitting some treys will make that a lot easier.
On defense we will probably guard the paint to prevent the UCLA speedy guards from getting around us for open layups, so UCLA's three point shooting will be tested. Can we guard the mid-range jumpers? Are we quick enough to prevent a 4-guard team from getting layups and doing it without fouling?
We will find out on Friday night.
PS. I went to ESPN Replay to find a previous UCLA game to watch. There isn't a single one available. I do wish Pac 12 networks made replay games available, but they don't.
Found these on youtube. Probably can find the USC-UCLA contests as well.
UCLA at South Carolina full game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6i9vbQjMg&t=20s
UCLA vs Marquette (Battle 4 Atlantis Championship Game) full game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUJk66uRfYc
UCLA at Oregon game highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Rn8iK8sGs
UCLA at Oregon State game highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkJtgazAFDM
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - 81alum - 01-10-2023
Thank you jk1926! Very helpful!
Already I learned that UCLA uses a "chuck and chase" strategy on offense, which means taking a shot and having all 5 players converge for an offensive rebound. What that means is IF we come up with the rebound there should be opportunities to score in transition. That is probably why their speedy guards have so many rebounds, but there is a downside to this strategy.
Also, UCLA really really likes the mid range jumpers. We will need to do something about them. I know Tara wants opposing teams to take those shots, but UCLA has players who hit them at very high percentages and they need to be defended in the mid range.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - 81alum - 01-13-2023
According to the UCLA student paper, Charisma Osborne is not close to being fully healthy yet. She sat out (and UCLA lost) to Oregon State, then she went 2-16 against USC in a come-from-behind squeaker. So UCLA may be 8th in the nation, but the last two games they have not been at their best.
https://dailybruin.com/2023/01/13/ucla-womens-basketball-braces-for-underdog-matchup-against-stanford
Freshman guard Londynn Jones has been blossoming while Osborne has been injured--perhaps more than the other freshman Kiki Rice as of late. Jones shoots the three quite well to go along with a good overall game. Without her, UCLA would have lost to USC.
Close has been playing 5 freshmen at least 15 minutes each--by far the heaviest reliance on freshmen (which was, after all, the #1 class) in the country. I shudder to think what they will all be like as seniors. But maybe they will all transfer somewhere.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - Maple Leaf - 01-13-2023
(01-13-2023, 12:42 PM)81alum Wrote: According to the UCLA student paper, Charisma Osborne is not close to being fully healthy yet. She sat out (and UCLA lost) to Oregon State, then she went 2-16 against USC in a come-from-behind squeaker. So UCLA may be 8th in the nation, but the last two games they have not been at their best.
https://dailybruin.com/2023/01/13/ucla-womens-basketball-braces-for-underdog-matchup-against-stanford
Freshman guard Londynn Jones has been blossoming while Osborne has been injured--perhaps more than the other freshman Kiki Rice as of late. Jones shoots the three quite well to go along with a good overall game. Without her, UCLA would have lost to USC.
Close has been playing 5 freshmen at least 15 minutes each--by far the heaviest reliance on freshmen (which was, after all, the #1 class) in the country. I shudder to think what they will all be like as seniors. But maybe they will all transfer somewhere.
Well tonight when UCLA plays Stanford there is the opportunity watch the current #1 freshman class against the #1 freshman class from 4 years ago also known as the Funky Four.
Spike - Spike - 01-13-2023
We are 8 1/2 point favorites!
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - Softball Fan - 01-13-2023
Mike Wilbon on ESPN's Pardon the Interruption show predicted a win for UCLA. I don't think he follows WBB all that closely.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - martyup - 01-13-2023
Just have fun and love each other. Can't lose.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - skip75 - 01-13-2023
(01-13-2023, 05:19 PM)paloalto Wrote: Mike Wilbon on ESPN's Pardon the Interruption show predicted a win for UCLA. I don't think he follows WBB all that closely.I'm pretty sure that Wilbon is close to the Rice family and that his pick was more with his heart than his head.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - Card10Fan - 01-13-2023
I’ll be at the game. Predicting a Stanford victory and hope we learned lessons being on the road at Cal. Go Card!
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - martyup - 01-13-2023
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Hoping to see lots of these when we're on offense.
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Bam!! Kiki with the mid-range to start the game.
Tight game in the first quarter. Both teams shooting pretty well.
We're shooting too many 3s. We need to get the ball into the paint.
We lead 18-17 at the end of the first. I don't like our shot selections. We need to be more patient and work for the better shot.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - BostonCard - 01-13-2023
18-17 after 1. Iriafen has 6.
BC
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - TheFarm07 - 01-13-2023
We lead 18-17 after one quarter.
Jones can frustrate and amaze within a span of a couple minutes. She attempted a low-percentage 3-pointer (missed) and then an ill-advised pass, but then followed it up with a reverse layup and scrambled for a loose ball leading into an Iriafen basket.
Interesting that Tara took three starters out in the middle of the quarter (Brink, Iriafen, and Jones) and let Belibi, Bosgana and Prechtel play the bulk of the second half of the first.
We had some bad turnovers and the Bruins are hot from three-point range. Also felt that we did not battle for some 50/50 rebounds as much as I had hoped too.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - mbdude - 01-13-2023
Ucla is able to set screens for their 3 point shooters
And why is brink on perimeter
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - martyup - 01-13-2023
(01-13-2023, 09:29 PM)mbdude Wrote: And why is brink on perimeter
That!
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - BostonCard - 01-13-2023
It’s halftime and we are tied at 32. Jones has 8.
BC
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - martyup - 01-13-2023
Refs decided to start calling ticky tack fouls, except for Haley getting mugged on the last shot before the end of the half and no call.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - cardfan77 - 01-13-2023
How was that not a foul?
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - TheFarm07 - 01-13-2023
Tied at 32 at the half.
Our offense is really struggling and disjointed; I am listening to Tara right now and she's right. The team is not taking good shots and look tentative and unsure of themselves. We are not playing with authority or confidence on the offensive end.
Jones picked a bad game to lapse into her silly turnovers habit, two head-scratching passes right into the opponents' hands and one off her thigh.
Defensively, we are not doing a terrible job. 33% for UCLA overall, though we should tighten our long range defense, as the Bruins are up to 37.5% on three-pointers. No one is in double figures for them yet. Bessoir has been the most efficient at 3/4; Osborne is 2/10 and Rice is just 1/3.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ UCLA Friday 8pm - M T - 01-13-2023
Anyone else watching on Sling and having it hang (forever) sometimes? I haven't seen that before, but it has happened at least 5 times in this game. I restarted my browser, but it continues.