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UCLA Looking at Taylor - dabigv13 - 02-11-2024
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-running-short-ucla-narrows-022439406.html
Troy's got a good agent I guess?
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - Softball Fan - 02-11-2024
It's hard to tell from the article if Troy is actively engaged with UCLA or just someone they expressed interest in. If he is talking to UCLA you have to question his commitment to rebuilding Stanford football over the long-term. Not a good sign for recruiting if word goes out he is looking around for the highest bidder.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - needle - 02-12-2024
Pete Thamel w/ESPN reporting UCLA set to hire DeShaun Foster (yes, the former RB). Supposedly UCLA interviewed 11 people for the job, per Thamel.
Link to tweet (can't embed on this site anymore, I don't think): https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1757073269042094407
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - Giants - 02-12-2024
Foster is the choice.
I think this is a good decision. Most importantly, he is excited about the opportunity. UCLA will now be led by a guy who wants to take advantage of the current rules of engagement and is a passionate recruiter.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - StanfordMatt - 02-12-2024
Taylor interviewed over the weekend. His buyout could've been a sticking point with UCLA. Hard to believe given the Big 10 checks they're about to start collecting but UCLA was cheap. Bringing Foster back and keeping the current assistant staff intact is far cheaper than hiring a new coach, paying his buyout and any buyouts for his new assistants, plus being on the hook to pay all of the old assistants from Chip's staff for the next two years.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - Jamesy - 02-12-2024
(02-12-2024, 11:09 AM)StanfordMatt Wrote: Taylor interviewed over the weekend. His buyout could've been a sticking point with UCLA. Hard to believe given the Big 10 checks they're about to start collecting but UCLA was cheap. Bringing Foster back and keeping the current assistant staff intact is far cheaper than hiring a new coach, paying his buyout and any buyouts for his new assistants, plus being on the hook to pay all of the old assistants from Chip's staff for the next two years.
Make of it what you will, but according to this, he turned down the interview request. https://x.com/stanfballupdate/status/1757095056022831205?s=20
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - StanfordMatt - 02-12-2024
A college football coaching interview is one of those funny terms of art that either party can dissect to suit their own purposes.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - Farm93 - 02-12-2024
All part of the game for college football coaches with minimal loyalty or history with their current employer.
Fully expect that if Taylor gets Stanford to 7 or more wins he will then be able to jump to a BigTen or SEC program that can provide more money and a higher profile. Given the transfer portal, when that move happens Taylor will be able to take all the players willing to trade a Stanford degree for a sweet NIL deal and the adoration of 75,000+ very loyal season ticket holders.
Then Stanford football will hope to find another coach willing to take over a depleted roster and presumably with enough passion win to elect to leave Stanford after a year or two of even moderate success.
I just wish a certain Stanford men's basketball coach could get to a similar situation ASAP since it is clear Muir refuses to fire anyone.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - SkiBum80 - 02-12-2024
(02-12-2024, 12:12 PM)Farm93 Wrote: All part of the game for college football coaches with minimal loyalty or history with their current employer.
Fully expect that if Taylor gets Stanford to 7 or more wins he will then be able to jump to a BigTen or SEC program that can provide more money and a higher profile. Given the transfer portal, when that move happens Taylor will be able to take all the players willing to trade a Stanford degree for a sweet NIL deal and the adoration of 75,000+ very loyal season ticket holders.
Then Stanford football will hope to find another coach willing to take over a depleted roster and presumably with enough passion win to elect to leave Stanford after a year or two of even moderate success.
I just wish a certain Stanford men's basketball coach could get to a similar situation ASAP since it is clear Muir refuses to fire anyone.
If only we were a bigger time school where we could be sure to keep our loyal & successful coach... like, say, Michigan.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - qwerty49 - 02-12-2024
(02-12-2024, 01:01 PM)SkiBum80 Wrote:(02-12-2024, 12:12 PM)Farm93 Wrote: All part of the game for college football coaches with minimal loyalty or history with their current employer.
Fully expect that if Taylor gets Stanford to 7 or more wins he will then be able to jump to a BigTen or SEC program that can provide more money and a higher profile. Given the transfer portal, when that move happens Taylor will be able to take all the players willing to trade a Stanford degree for a sweet NIL deal and the adoration of 75,000+ very loyal season ticket holders.
Then Stanford football will hope to find another coach willing to take over a depleted roster and presumably with enough passion win to elect to leave Stanford after a year or two of even moderate success.
I just wish a certain Stanford men's basketball coach could get to a similar situation ASAP since it is clear Muir refuses to fire anyone.
If only we were a bigger time school where we could be sure to keep our loyal & successful coach... like, say, Michigan.
LOL in some alternate universe we have just concluded our 100th unbeaten conference season in the Ivy League, going 9-4 overall, beating Hawaii in the Poke Bowl and with our only losses being OOC to ND, Kal, SJSU, and UC Davis. Rumors of his leaving were quashed when TT signed a 40-year contract extension. It was, of course, "a 40-year decision."
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - 81alum - 02-12-2024
Whether Taylor took the interview or not, I am curious as to why anyone would think to interview him. Why? They must think the 1) he is a good coach, despite his first year at Stanford, and that 2) he is at least open to the idea of getting out.
Why would they think that? Did something happen to plant those seeds?
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - Farm93 - 02-12-2024
(02-12-2024, 01:59 PM)81alum Wrote: Whether Taylor took the interview or not, I am curious as to why anyone would think to interview him. Why? They must think the 1) he is a good coach, despite his first year at Stanford, and that 2) he is at least open to the idea of getting out.I think the general consensus is that Taylor is a good coach. That first year at Stanford was probably viewed as a positive actually.
Why would they think that? Did something happen to plant those seeds?
Most programs with openings are not going to be like....Michigan. Programs looking for new coaches will generally have teams that struggled, failed to meet expectations and/or can't afford to pay coaches the top rates. For programs in those situations it is best for the new coach to have at least some experience coaching a program going through tough times, ideally navigating those challenges in this new transfer portal environment. Enter Taylor.
If Taylor can get a 2010 type season at Stanford in the next year or two he will likely move on too. That's the industry. I am amazed that he tried after season #1, but he most certainly was not the first Stanford football coach to shop for NFL or higher NCAA offers after year 1 on The Farm.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - gailtate - 02-12-2024
(02-12-2024, 04:55 PM)Farm93 Wrote:(02-12-2024, 01:59 PM)81alum Wrote: Whether Taylor took the interview or not, I am curious as to why anyone would think to interview him. Why? They must think the 1) he is a good coach, despite his first year at Stanford, and that 2) he is at least open to the idea of getting out.I think the general consensus is that Taylor is a good coach. That first year at Stanford was probably viewed as a positive actually.
Why would they think that? Did something happen to plant those seeds?
Most programs with openings are not going to be like....Michigan. Programs looking for new coaches will generally have teams that struggled, failed to meet expectations and/or can't afford to pay coaches the top rates. For programs in those situations it is best for the new coach to have at least some experience coaching a program going through tough times, ideally navigating those challenges in this new transfer portal environment. Enter Taylor.
If Taylor can get a 2010 type season at Stanford in the next year or two he will likely move on too. That's the industry. I am amazed that he tried after season #1, but he most certainly was not the first Stanford football coach to shop for NFL or higher NCAA offers after year 1 on The Farm.
The 1977 coach.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - Goose - 02-12-2024
(02-12-2024, 04:55 PM)Farm93 Wrote: If Taylor can get a 2010 type season at Stanford in the next year or two he will likely move on too. That's the industry. I am amazed that he tried after season #1, but he most certainly was not the first Stanford football coach to shop for NFL or higher NCAA offers after year 1 on The Farm.Do we know he "tried"? Or was it that UCLA called his agent (or him) and offered to talk about the position? I know I have fielded many calls (and actually taken a few interviews) when I had absolutely no intention of leaving my present position. If they were able to change my mind, there would have to have been a real good reason/offer. As it happened, there never was.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - Farm93 - 02-12-2024
(02-12-2024, 05:29 PM)gailtate Wrote:(02-12-2024, 04:55 PM)Farm93 Wrote:(02-12-2024, 01:59 PM)81alum Wrote: Whether Taylor took the interview or not, I am curious as to why anyone would think to interview him. Why? They must think the 1) he is a good coach, despite his first year at Stanford, and that 2) he is at least open to the idea of getting out.I think the general consensus is that Taylor is a good coach. That first year at Stanford was probably viewed as a positive actually.
Why would they think that? Did something happen to plant those seeds?
Most programs with openings are not going to be like....Michigan. Programs looking for new coaches will generally have teams that struggled, failed to meet expectations and/or can't afford to pay coaches the top rates. For programs in those situations it is best for the new coach to have at least some experience coaching a program going through tough times, ideally navigating those challenges in this new transfer portal environment. Enter Taylor.
If Taylor can get a 2010 type season at Stanford in the next year or two he will likely move on too. That's the industry. I am amazed that he tried after season #1, but he most certainly was not the first Stanford football coach to shop for NFL or higher NCAA offers after year 1 on The Farm.
The 1977 coach.
I was thinking about the 1989 and 2007 coaches, but I can only imagine the 1977 coach joined the club too.
When Alabama, Texas, tOSU, LSU or Michigan types have openings one should hope your team's coach is at least on the list with the agent at least fielding a call or two.
For example, does anyone really think Haase would get a call if top hoops programs like Duke, UNC or Kentucky had vacancies?
IMO, much better to have a coach in demand than to have a coach no one wants, but your AD is unwilling to fire.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - 2006alum - 02-12-2024
(02-12-2024, 06:38 PM)Farm93 Wrote: For example, does anyone really think Haase would get a call if top hoops programs like Duke, UNC or Kentucky had vacancies?
Well actually, he'd make an excellent assistant coach in charge of recruiting.... But I suspect that's not what you meant. ;)
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - Spiny_Norman - 02-12-2024
The 1979 coach actually did leave after one year for the NFL.
RE: UCLA Looking at Taylor - BobK - 02-12-2024
Well if I recall correctly there were reasons for Dowhauer leaving and they weren’t the lure of the NFL