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Stanford and Road Trips - mbdude - 09-13-2024
How Stanford Planned for Long Road Trips in Conference Realignment
Please excuse if posted before.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - SkiBum80 - 09-13-2024
Appreciate posting the link.
Good article, I'd not seen it yet.
Agree with a lot of the plans going on about managing the travel.
However, as one who has taken many cross-country flights, and continues to do so, at an age when many contemporaries are retiring, some personal feedback that varies a bit from some points in their plan:
-- I absolutely recommend a nap on a flight if you can. Even if daytime. Rather than disrupt sleep patterns, it can help counter some effects of jet lag.
-- I shudder when I read about travel plans that are going to arrive at 4 or 5 am in the morning back to Stanford. This is extremely bad planning and will have days-long impact on screwing up their sleep. So much better to stay overnight hotel locally after the presumably east coast late afternoon or night game. Then make the entire travel home all on the next day. Yes you "lose" a day. But you keep your normal sleep going and there's very little jet lag impact compared to the attempt to save a day by starting the travel earlier, only to arrive in middle of night, and your jet lag is severe and your sleep is all out of whack for possibly days.
-- Further to my prior point, and perhaps goes without saying, but avoid red-eye flights back east like the plague.
-- All this above assumes flying public. If flying charter there is some more flexible scheduling possible as more chance to spread out and sleep more on a charter.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - BobK - 09-13-2024
Football is charter. Both basketballs will be charter. Stanford is working on charters for more
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - johnbar - 09-14-2024
Yahoo sports (apparently) posted a tiktok claiming Stanford WVB will be traveling the most miles of any fall college team: 33,700.
Kami Miner reposted it as an IG reel; I don't have a link.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - 82lsju - 09-14-2024
(09-14-2024, 09:07 AM)johnbar Wrote: Yahoo sports (apparently) posted a tiktok claiming Stanford WVB will be traveling the most miles of any fall college team: 33,700.
Kami Miner reposted it as an IG reel; I don't have a link.
you can see the video here as well
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=395913996862359
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - GK3 - 09-14-2024
(09-13-2024, 03:11 PM)SkiBum80 Wrote: Appreciate posting the link.Unfortunately, the older you get the harder long flights are to recover from. I finally told my employer that if they wanted me to continue these long flights, they paid for First Class or I would find a reason not to go. 20 years after retiring, traveling Tourist class is almost impossible for someone in their 80s and standing well over 6 ft.
Good article, I'd not seen it yet.
Agree with a lot of the plans going on about managing the travel.
However, as one who has taken many cross-country flights, and continues to do so, at an age when many contemporaries are retiring, some personal feedback that varies a bit from some points in their plan:
-- I absolutely recommend a nap on a flight if you can. Even if daytime. Rather than disrupt sleep patterns, it can help counter some effects of jet lag.
-- I shudder when I read about travel plans that are going to arrive at 4 or 5 am in the morning back to Stanford. This is extremely bad planning and will have days-long impact on screwing up their sleep. So much better to stay overnight hotel locally after the presumably east coast late afternoon or night game. Then make the entire travel home all on the next day. Yes you "lose" a day. But you keep your normal sleep going and there's very little jet lag impact compared to the attempt to save a day by starting the travel earlier, only to arrive in middle of night, and your jet lag is severe and your sleep is all out of whack for possibly days.
-- Further to my prior point, and perhaps goes without saying, but avoid red-eye flights back east like the plague.
-- All this above assumes flying public. If flying charter there is some more flexible scheduling possible as more chance to spread out and sleep more on a charter.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - Sakibomb25 - 09-15-2024
(09-13-2024, 03:11 PM)SkiBum80 Wrote: -- I shudder when I read about travel plans that are going to arrive at 4 or 5 am in the morning back to Stanford. This is extremely bad planning and will have days-long impact on screwing up their sleep. So much better to stay overnight hotel locally after the presumably east coast late afternoon or night game. Then make the entire travel home all on the next day. Yes you "lose" a day. But you keep your normal sleep going and there's very little jet lag impact compared to the attempt to save a day by starting the travel earlier, only to arrive in middle of night, and your jet lag is severe and your sleep is all out of whack for possibly days.
Great thought in theory… but who is footing the bill for the extra night for the student athletes and coaches?
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - M T - 09-15-2024
I like the stay-over concept, but does it work with the NCAA rules about a day off per week? IDK. Consider you might like to practice the nighr after daytime away matches. Or use the evening for video review or prep as a group. Or, gasp, study time.
As for the added cost, it is probably in the noise. Currently the school doesn’t pay the athletes per day other than $30 per diem. The school is feeding them whether at home or away. It might involve a bit more cost for the bus and one more night hotel. If it saves a charter flight by using commercial flights, it should be cheaper. Unless you’re flying them all first class.
But the other added cost is missing classes. Since every sport except football probably has a Sunday match as the last match on a trip, that is probably the most critical cost. At least for schools that still care about athletes also being students (the NCAA seems to)
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - James Dean - 09-15-2024
I would like to see us only schedule OOC games in California.
SJSU, Davis, Cal Poly, San Diego. Maybe Pacific time zone - OSU, WSU, Portland.
Yes, that would mean dumping Notre Dame.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - 82lsju - 09-15-2024
(09-15-2024, 12:39 PM)James Dean Wrote: I would like to see us only schedule OOC games in California.
SJSU, Davis, Cal Poly, San Diego. Maybe Pacific time zone - OSU, WSU, Portland.
Yes, that would mean dumping Notre Dame.
the ND contract expires after this season unclear if it will get renewed.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - fullmetal - 09-15-2024
(09-15-2024, 03:19 PM)82lsju Wrote: the ND contract expires after this season unclear if it will get renewed.
I've always felt that the ND game was of great benefit for national exposure, but now that Stanford plays in the ACC, maybe I should reconsider. It's always great to beat them though.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - VB Card - 09-15-2024
ND has to play an average of 5 ACC schools a year as part of their deal with the conference. It may be in their best interest to continue to schedule Stanford. However, this season's ND/Stanford game does not count towards that ACC average.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - Mick - 09-15-2024
(09-15-2024, 12:39 PM)James Dean Wrote: I would like to see us only schedule OOC games in California.
SJSU, Davis, Cal Poly, San Diego. Maybe Pacific time zone - OSU, WSU, Portland.
Yes, that would mean dumping Notre Dame.
Yes on Pac-12 schools...OSU, WSU, SDSU, hopefully to add SJSU and UNLV. Then Davis, Sac St., Cal Poly as NCAA rules allow. I'll pass on Big 12 and Big 10 schools.
RE: Stanford and Road Trips - 82lsju - 09-15-2024
(09-15-2024, 04:39 PM)VB Card Wrote: ND has to play an average of 5 ACC schools a year as part of their deal with the conference. It may be in their best interest to continue to schedule Stanford. However, this season's ND/Stanford game does not count towards that ACC average.
looking here
https://fightingirishwire.usatoday.com/lists/notre-dame-future-schedule-football/
there do not appear to be openings through 2034 for playing ND as part of the ACC rotation, of course that rotation could change but I would guess the Stanford, Cal, and SMU get tacked on to the end of the current schedules.