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Cal fans revolt... - 82lsju - 04-03-2025

looks like we are indirectly causing some heartburn among Cal fans regarding how set up Andrew Luck as GM vs how they have set up Ron Rivera as GM

Quote:In the days following the announcement, Kennedy was one of two California Legends Collective board members to release statements saying that they would withhold their personal donations until UC Berkeley followed Stanford’s lead. 

Kennedy sent his message to the collective’s donor group, which he then shared with SFGATE. After complimenting Lyons and Rivera for getting this hire done, Kennedy wrote that he wasn’t fond of the lack of clarity surrounding the organizational structure of the football program. While Stanford’s announcement clearly stated that football would be under Luck’s direction and control, Cal’s, per Kennedy, left too many unaddressed concerns. For instance, how can Rivera oversee football if no one actually reports to him?

“Until I know the answers to the questions I posed above, I won’t personally invest more money in this enterprise,” he wrote. “More importantly, I cannot in good conscience ask any of you to do the same. I simply do not believe that Cal football can possibly succeed without some significant changes to how we have operated to date.”



https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/cal-donors-standoff-with-athletic-department-20253399.php


RE: Cal fans revolt... - JohnR34231 - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 09:38 AM)82lsju Wrote:  looks like we are indirectly causing some heartburn among Cal fans regarding how set up Andrew Luck as GM vs how they have set up Ron Rivera as GM

Quote:In the days following the announcement, Kennedy was one of two California Legends Collective board members to release statements saying that they would withhold their personal donations until UC Berkeley followed Stanford’s lead. 

Kennedy sent his message to the collective’s donor group, which he then shared with SFGATE. After complimenting Lyons and Rivera for getting this hire done, Kennedy wrote that he wasn’t fond of the lack of clarity surrounding the organizational structure of the football program. While Stanford’s announcement clearly stated that football would be under Luck’s direction and control, Cal’s, per Kennedy, left too many unaddressed concerns. For instance, how can Rivera oversee football if no one actually reports to him?

“Until I know the answers to the questions I posed above, I won’t personally invest more money in this enterprise,” he wrote. “More importantly, I cannot in good conscience ask any of you to do the same. I simply do not believe that Cal football can possibly succeed without some significant changes to how we have operated to date.”



https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/cal-donors-standoff-with-athletic-department-20253399.php

Yeah Cal fans are pretty revolting.


RE: Cal fans revolt... - fullmetal - 04-03-2025

Beat me to it.  

kal fans should have been thinking about the cost of the stadium renovation a long time ago if they really cared about their program.  Fun to watch their big donor base vote with their pocketbooks now too.  There's no direction over there, just haphazard and wishful thinking from people who are hoping to eventually jump ship before the piper has to be paid.


RE: Cal fans revolt... - Giants - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 09:38 AM)82lsju Wrote:  looks like we are indirectly causing some heartburn among Cal fans regarding how set up Andrew Luck as GM vs how they have set up Ron Rivera as GM

Quote:In the days following the announcement, Kennedy was one of two California Legends Collective board members to release statements saying that they would withhold their personal donations until UC Berkeley followed Stanford’s lead. 

Kennedy sent his message to the collective’s donor group, which he then shared with SFGATE. After complimenting Lyons and Rivera for getting this hire done, Kennedy wrote that he wasn’t fond of the lack of clarity surrounding the organizational structure of the football program. While Stanford’s announcement clearly stated that football would be under Luck’s direction and control, Cal’s, per Kennedy, left too many unaddressed concerns. For instance, how can Rivera oversee football if no one actually reports to him?

“Until I know the answers to the questions I posed above, I won’t personally invest more money in this enterprise,” he wrote. “More importantly, I cannot in good conscience ask any of you to do the same. I simply do not believe that Cal football can possibly succeed without some significant changes to how we have operated to date.”



https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/cal-donors-standoff-with-athletic-department-20253399.php

It was assumed by the major donors that Rivera was brought in to oversee the football program (a la Luck).  In fact, he was not given full control by the Chancellor.  The result of the Chancellor’s misstep is a major pushback by the donor community.  It a classic Berkeley bureaucratic mess that turned what could have been a big plus into an even bigger minus.  Nothing is ever easy for our friends in East Bay.


RE: Cal fans revolt... - newguy - 04-03-2025

(04-03-2025, 10:45 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:  Yeah Cal fans are pretty revolting.

agreed.
and i think the best time for Cal to resolve this mess is sometime this Fall.


RE: Cal fans revolt... - lex24 - 04-04-2025

Stanford last beat Cal in 2020.  Stanford has had one of its worst 4 year stretches in its  history.  The football coach got fired for verbally abusing women.  He also wasn’t much of a coach to begin with.  

And you’re talking about Cal having issues?

(04-03-2025, 10:53 AM)fullmetal Wrote:  Beat me to it.  

kal fans should have been thinking about the cost of the stadium renovation a long time ago if they really cared about their program.  Fun to watch their big donor base vote with their pocketbooks now too.  There's no direction over there, just haphazard and wishful thinking from people who are hoping to eventually jump ship before the piper has to be paid.

Cal didn’t have the luxury of Arrillaga.  

Barbour also misled everyone when she quoted a number of “guaranteed” seat license commitments.  They were anything but guaranteed; and those sales didn’t materialize.

That said, Cal’s program is in better shape than Stanfords.  But that is an exceedingly low bar.


RE: Cal fans revolt... - jacket3ree - 04-04-2025

One correction, Lex. This is THE worst four year stretch in Stanford football history, not one of them. 

I also take umbrage that Cal fans are revolting. My wife and daughter are not revolting. I wonder if in weird bizarro parallel universe world where Cal offered the fellowship instead of Stanford, or even if I had access to that magical $12,000 for a year of grad school in Berkeley, or I had asked my father for the money when he knew full well I had full rides to Stanford and MIT or could take one of three well-paying (but not what I was looking for long-term) job offers instead, he would have said, "sure, Go Bears," and I'm on BearInsider right now saying how Stanford fans aren't revolting, my (different) wife and (different) daughter (or son) aren't revolting. They were actually my first choice until, well you know, the money wasn't there.

Yes, I said it. Stanford was my financial safety school.