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Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - BostonCard - 10-08-2025
What could possibly go wrong?
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6700539/2025/10/08/ncaa-gambling-student-athletes-professional-sports/
BC
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - dabigv13 - 10-09-2025
Quote:“The change allows the NCAA, the conferences and the member schools to focus on protecting the integrity of college games while, at the same time, encouraging healthy habits for student-athletes who choose to engage in betting activities on professional sports,”
LOL, "encouraging healthy habits".
This was a great comment on the article-
Quote:"while, at the same time, encouraging healthy habits for student-athletes who choose to engage in betting activities on professional sports,”
"Kids, here is some crack. We are going to help you develop healthy crack-smoking habits."
Not that I think it will happen anytime soon, but for the good of our society we have to ban widespread sports betting on phones.
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - jacket3ree - 10-09-2025
A lot could go wrong, but isn't that the point? In the unicorn and rainbow idealized version of college athletics, the athletes are just random college students doing the same random and often stupid things other college students can do, like bet on professional sports. Why can't college athletes bet on professional sports if they are 21 or 18 in the handful of states (and D.C.) that allow it? Do college athletes need additional protection that 'normal' 21 year old adults don't? No one is talking about allowing betting on their own games, which turns out happens anyway and shut down a few programs back in the 'pure' '50s.
Ban sports betting on phones? Don't we have the god given right to do stupid ****? I mean you can still smoke or vape if you want; you just can't see Joe Camel on a billboard.
This train left the station long ago. I learned as a freshman that betting on horses in Louisiana was a sunk cost and I've never gambled since. Our morning routine on Saturdays is to go to separate gyms and briefly cross paths with yogurt or whatever watching Gameday on ESPN. My wife loved Corso and she's pretty savvy on all things college football. They were making picks and she said these guys know nothing about college football. I pointed out that some of these picks are against the spread. She said that is stupid; who cares about anything other than who wins? I said billions of dollars do.
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - dabigv13 - 10-09-2025
Quote:Ban sports betting on phones? Don't we have the god given right to do stupid ****? I mean you can still smoke or vape if you want; you just can't see Joe Camel on a billboard.
Great example, let's expound. If we regulated sports betting like we regulated smoking, there wouldn't be ads for it on every sports broadcast. You could only do it in certain locations (say, a casino). Maybe I'm overly paternalistic, but that arrangement seemed to work fine, and I think we should "RETVRN" to how things used to be with sports betting.
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - Mick - 10-09-2025
(10-09-2025, 01:05 PM)dabigv13 Wrote:Quote:Ban sports betting on phones? Don't we have the god given right to do stupid ****? I mean you can still smoke or vape if you want; you just can't see Joe Camel on a billboard.
Great example, let's expound. If we regulated sports betting like we regulated smoking, there wouldn't be ads for it on every sports broadcast. You could only do it in certain locations (say, a casino). Maybe I'm overly paternalistic, but that arrangement seemed to work fine, and I think we should "RETVRN" to how things used to be with sports betting.
Yeah, I long for the good old days when Dan Gilbert was a bookie at Michigan State before he founded Quicken Loan and Rocket Mortgage and bought 100+ buildings in downtown Detroit. And 100 Thieves, the online sports brand.
Would love to have Mr. Gilbert in charge of sports betting. After all, he ran his businesses in such a pristine way...
Dan Gilbert Demands Both Your Money And Your Undying Love | Defector
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - jacket3ree - 10-09-2025
(10-09-2025, 01:05 PM)dabigv13 Wrote:Quote:Ban sports betting on phones? Don't we have the god given right to do stupid ****? I mean you can still smoke or vape if you want; you just can't see Joe Camel on a billboard.
Great example, let's expound. If we regulated sports betting like we regulated smoking, there wouldn't be ads for it on every sports broadcast. You could only do it in certain locations (say, a casino). Maybe I'm overly paternalistic, but that arrangement seemed to work fine, and I think we should "RETVRN" to how things used to be with sports betting.
I'm with you on that - the Draft Kings ads all over the place. The cursory research I've done indicates that comprehensive bans on tobacco product advertisement has lead to a measurable reduction in smoking-related deaths, which I think most reasonable people would agree is a good thing.
Question for you though on phones and ease of placing bets. If it needs to be done through bookies instead of in the safety of your Android, is that better? (Honest question, not rhetorical.) I don't gamble on line or IRL, so I don't understand the cyber equivalent of some goon coming in the night to break kneecaps.
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - BostonCard - 10-09-2025
Well, for starters if I get into gambling debt I don’t think any shady character is going to ask me to shave points at my rec league basketball game.
BC
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - Leftcoast - 10-10-2025
Now THAT'S a shame. I put $50 down at 2:1 for you guy to beat Dean's Barbershop Quintet on Saturday. How am I gonna make that good?
(10-09-2025, 06:53 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Well, for starters if I get into gambling debt I don’t think any shady character is going to ask me to shave points at my rec league basketball game.
BC
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - BostonCard - 10-29-2025
A few updates:
The NCAA has put the proposal on hold, in light of, well, what happened in the NBA.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-sports-betting-rules-legislation-criticism/
Greg Sankey, the NCAA commissioner, sent a letter to the NCAA begging them not to do it.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/46758191/sankey-implores-ncaa-axe-ruling-allowing-pro-sports-betting
The problem is that sports leagues in general are completely hypocritical on this matter. Here’s an editorial calling out the NBA for going all in on sports gambling to revise interest.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/28/opinion/sports-gambling-major-leagues.html?smid=bsky-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Lots of quotable from the editorial
Quote:For years, the leagues, networks and sports books have pretended that gambling is just another way to “engage fans.” Officials pointed to last week’s arrests as proof that the system is catching bad actors. But the rising frequency of these scandals, and the public’s fading trust, points to an industry rotting from the inside — one that rewards corruption, punishes transparency and treats addiction as a business model. The same institutions that claim to protect the integrity of the game have built an economy dependent on its erosion. And the deeper the rot goes, the more it misleads fans that gambling isn’t just part of sports, but part of being American.
There are some common sense solutions in there. I don’t think we will ever get the genie back into the bottle, and I know plenty of people whose enjoyment of the game is enhanced by putting a bit of money on the line, but don’t wager more than they can afford to lose.
But like a lot of pernicious habits, unfortunately this is an industry that profits from vulnerable populations, and, studies have shown that the small proportion of people who are problem gamblers are the source of the largest share of profits for the platforms.
BC
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - lex24 - 10-29-2025
3 to 1 it doesn’t pass….
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - Mick - 10-29-2025
(10-29-2025, 02:51 PM)BostonCard Wrote: A few updates:
The NCAA has put the proposal on hold, in light of, well, what happened in the NBA.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-sports-betting-rules-legislation-criticism/
Greg Sankey, the NCAA commissioner, sent a letter to the NCAA begging them not to do it.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/46758191/sankey-implores-ncaa-axe-ruling-allowing-pro-sports-betting
The problem is that sports leagues in general are completely hypocritical on this matter. Here’s an editorial calling out the NBA for going all in on sports gambling to revise interest.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/28/opinion/sports-gambling-major-leagues.html?smid=bsky-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Lots of quotable from the editorial
Quote:For years, the leagues, networks and sports books have pretended that gambling is just another way to “engage fans.” Officials pointed to last week’s arrests as proof that the system is catching bad actors. But the rising frequency of these scandals, and the public’s fading trust, points to an industry rotting from the inside — one that rewards corruption, punishes transparency and treats addiction as a business model. The same institutions that claim to protect the integrity of the game have built an economy dependent on its erosion. And the deeper the rot goes, the more it misleads fans that gambling isn’t just part of sports, but part of being American.
There are some common sense solutions in there. I don’t think we will ever get the genie back into the bottle, and I know plenty of people whose enjoyment of the game is enhanced by putting a bit of money on the line, but don’t wager more than they can afford to lose.
But like a lot of pernicious habits, unfortunately this is an industry that profits from vulnerable populations, and, studies have shown that the small proportion of people who are problem gamblers are the source of the largest share of profits for the platforms.
BC
Look up Brian Patrick Molony, former banker, embezzled $10 million between 1980 and 1982 at the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce. He wasn't discovered by the bank, the police were investigating his bookie and caught him. Philip Seymour Hoffman played him in the movie...
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - PVTree - 10-29-2025
Gambling on college campuses? No way!
If it's true that it is already happening, then I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - PalmTree - 10-29-2025
(10-29-2025, 03:30 PM)PVTree Wrote: Gambling on college campuses? No way!
If it's true that it is already happening, then I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
I'll bet you are.....
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - BostonCard - 10-29-2025
There is lots of data out there that shows that as you remove barriers and make gambling “frictionless” there is more of it, and that can be particularly bad for problem gamblers. I think it’s unlikely that gambling companies would pay tens of millions of dollars for ads in the Super Bowl or sponsorships of leagues if they didn’t believe that there would be a return on investment. Yeah, maybe even if you make it illegal gambling won’t go away altogether, but as a first step maybe don’t have in your face advertising all the time, don’t allow incentives to get people hooked, don’t legitimize it by having leagues give develop “partnerships” with gambling companies, etc. WIll there always be some gambling? Sure. But that doesn’t mean that we have zero agency and that we can’t curb the most pernicious practices.
BC
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - dabigv13 - 10-30-2025
This is the land of the free, BC. SCOTUS sez we gotta let the kids gamble. Those ads are free speech. What are you, some kinda communist?
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - fullmetal - 10-30-2025
Corporations should be allowed to leech money from people's worst instincts (to their detriment), and that makes for a good society, I guess.
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - BostonCard - 10-30-2025
Note the Supreme Court only said that the federal government can’t stop states from allowing gambling (or, more specifically, they can’t allow it in one state (Nevada), but not others). But states aren’t forced to allow it, and I believe that technically, neither California nor Texas does.
BC
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - Hieronymus - 10-30-2025
(10-10-2025, 01:19 PM)Leftcoast Wrote: Now THAT'S a shame. I put $50 down at 2:1 for you guy to beat Dean's Barbershop Quintet on Saturday. How am I gonna make that good?
(10-09-2025, 06:53 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Well, for starters if I get into gambling debt I don’t think any shady character is going to ask me to shave points at my rec league basketball game.
BC
And yet that would be only slightly more obscure then some prop bets you actually could make.
Last year Max Jones over/under .5 steals ASU vs. Kansas St anyone?
RE: Proposal to allow College athletes to bet on pro sports - Mick - 01-15-2026
(10-29-2025, 03:30 PM)PVTree Wrote: Gambling on college campuses? No way!
If it's true that it is already happening, then I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
The Athletic's article: "Federal prosecutors charge 20 men with alleged conspiracy to manipulate college basketball games" indicates 39 players were involved in shaving points. Players were offered between $10k and $30k per game to shave points. Colleges included DePaul, Nicholls State, Tulane, La Salle, Fordham, Northwestern State, Saint Louis, Buffalo, Robert Morris, Southern Miss, North Carolina A&T, Coppin State, University of New Orleans, Abilene Christian, Alabama State and Kennesaw State.
Federal prosecutors charge 20 men with alleged conspiracy to manipulate college basketball games - The Athletic
76lsjumb - 76lsjumb - 01-15-2026
(01-15-2026, 09:37 AM)Mick Wrote:(10-29-2025, 03:30 PM)PVTree Wrote: Gambling on college campuses? No way!
If it's true that it is already happening, then I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
The Athletic's article: "Federal prosecutors charge 20 men with alleged conspiracy to manipulate college basketball games" indicates 39 players were involved in shaving points. Players were offered between $10k and $30k per game to shave points. Colleges included DePaul, Nicholls State, Tulane, La Salle, Fordham, Northwestern State, Saint Louis, Buffalo, Robert Morris, Southern Miss, North Carolina A&T, Coppin State, University of New Orleans, Abilene Christian, Alabama State and Kennesaw State.
Federal prosecutors charge 20 men with alleged conspiracy to manipulate college basketball games - The Athletic
Saint Louis, huh? I thought the end of that game looked a little fishy… :-)