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MBB: Stanford 91 -- Montana 68 - skip75 - 11-07-2025
Stanford will try to make it 2-0 vs. Big Sky opponents as they take on the Montana Grizzlies. Montana won the Big Sky championship last season and, despite losing 10 players, is the pre-season favorite to repeat. They have opened the season with a 106-41 win over Northwest Indian College and a 73-59 win over Ottawa University of Arizona.
Starters for both games were:
#0 Money Williams 6'4"/211 Jr G from Oakland HS (a state champion at Damian Lillard's alma mater). Led the Grizzlies in scoring (13.2ppg) and assists (3.1apg) last season and was named 2nd team All-Big Sky. He is the pre-season pick as Big Sky MVP.
#32 Te'Jon Sawyer 6'8"/255 Gr F from SF and Salesian College Prep via Cal Baptist and SF City College. The only other returning Grizzly, he scored 9.4ppg and pulled down 4.1rpg last season.
#24 Kenyon Aguino 6'7"/222 Fr F - a 3-time New Mexico Gatorade Player of the Year and a part of 4 straight state championship teams.
#4 Tyler Thompson 6'6"/195 RFr G
#8 Tyler Isaak 6'4"/190 Jr G from Danville (San Ramon Valley HS) via Cal Baptist & Citrus College.
Looks to me like Stanford has a possibility of some real depth this season. It will be interesting to see the development of that depth and how deep a rotation will be used during the non-league portion of the schedule. Hopefully they will pile up a lot of wins along the way.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - GK3 - 11-07-2025
(11-07-2025, 04:27 PM)skip75 Wrote: Stanford will try to make it 2-0 vs. Big Sky opponents as they take on the Montana Grizzlies. Montana won the Big Sky championship last season and, despite losing 10 players, is the pre-season favorite to repeat. They have opened the season with a 106-41 win over Northwest Indian College and a 73-59 win over Ottawa University of Arizona.
Starters for both games were:
#0 Money Williams 6'4"/211 Jr G from Oakland HS (a state champion at Damian Lillard's alma mater). Led the Grizzlies in scoring (13.2ppg) and assists (3.1apg) last season and was named 2nd team All-Big Sky. He is the pre-season pick as Big Sky MVP.
#32 Te'Jon Sawyer 6'8"/255 Gr F from SF and Salesian College Prep via Cal Baptist and SF City College. The only other returning Grizzly, he scored 9.4ppg and pulled down 4.1rpg last season.
#24 Kenyon Aguino 6'7"/222 Fr F - a 3-time New Mexico Gatorade Player of the Year and a part of 4 straight state championship teams.
#4 Tyler Thompson 6'6"/195 RFr G
#8 Tyler Isaak 6'4"/190 Jr G from Danville (San Ramon Valley HS) via Cal Baptist & Citrus College.
Looks to me like Stanford has a possibility of some real depth this season. It will be interesting to see the development of that depth and how deep a rotation will be used during the non-league portion of the schedule. Hopefully they will pile up a lot of wins along the way.
Agreed. This team is probably capable of far more improvement over the season than last years team. Ebuka is alreay an eye opener and Okpara has clearly improved over last year and the two have some synergy. When Ebuka made a drive and had no shot, instead of turning it over he seemed to know exactly where Okpara would be and hit him in the hands for a lay in. That is a two we shouldl be very glad to have.
Benny is Benny and we know what he will give us. Big question is whether the two DII/III transfer have what it takes to contribute at this level. This very small sample says probably yes, but just how big that contribution can be is hard to say and it remains to see how fast our Belgian big man develops. It will be a long seaon but probably the most interesting to watch in a number of years. Ebuka is worth buyinig a ticket.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - SkiBum80 - 11-07-2025
It's hard to think of losing Maxime to graduation, one of the best players for us in a long time, and yet have a better team this season?
But I agree it may be possible.
On a very small sample size, if we are indeed better, I'd start by attributing it to a faster tempo led by Okorie who has a knack for making things happen.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - scorecard - 11-07-2025
(11-07-2025, 06:32 PM)GK3 Wrote: Agreed. This team is probably capable of far more improvement over the season than last years team. Ebuka is alreay an eye opener and Okpara has clearly improved over last year and the two have some synergy. When Ebuka made a drive and had no shot, instead of turning it over he seemed to know exactly where Okpara would be and hit him in the hands for a lay in. That is a two we shouldl be very glad to have.
Clearly we should be recruiting more Nigerian bballers and athletes in general! Nneka and Chiney, Kiki Iriafen, KZ Okpala, and hopefully Ebuka and Okpara, and Nora Ezike too. Quite a few standouts in other sports as well.
Hoping that Ebuka is the 2nd coming of Brevin Knight, a one-man press breaker with the ability to penetrate into the lane and break down defenses who turned around the entire trajectory of our bball team. That's a big ask and we'll see if he can keep up his hot start as we play better competition. Didn't really expect this from someone who only averaged 13 pts in high school, but his early Stanford tape is very impressive so far.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - skip75 - 11-07-2025
Stanford favored by 11.5, over/under is 149.5. Implied score of 80.5-69.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - BostonCard - 11-08-2025
WEll, good start for the Cardinal. It’s 9-0 after about 5 minutes.
BC
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - needle - 11-08-2025
Feels like Montana is getting some open three-point shots, but not making them. Okpara not having nearly as good of a game as against Portland State. Okorie hit a nice little midrange jumpshot. Is there anything he can't do?
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - BostonCard - 11-08-2025
Final was 91-68. Okorie had 29 points. What’s the Stanford record for points by a freshman?
BC
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - PVTree - 11-08-2025
Agarwal injured? He's not in the box score.
Batson is in the box score.
SkiBum80 - SkiBum80 - 11-08-2025
(11-08-2025, 04:14 PM)PVTree Wrote: Agarwal injured? He's not in the box score.Saw fleeting screen note that yes Agarwal injured & day to day
Batson is in the box score.
Great game
Okorie acting like a team leader… as a freshman?!
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - PalmTree - 11-08-2025
(11-08-2025, 04:02 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Final was 91-68. Okorie had 29 points. What’s the Stanford record for points by a freshman?
BC
For a single game:
1) 31 pts by Kanaan Carlyle vs WSU on 1/18/24
T2) 30 pts by Chasson Randle vs ASU on 3/7/2012 & by Todd Lichti vs Seton Hall on 12/22/1988
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - BACardinal - 11-08-2025
(11-08-2025, 04:14 PM)PVTree Wrote: Agarwal injured? He's not in the box score.
Batson is in the box score.
Agarwal is sick and listed as day to day
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - needle - 11-08-2025
I'm an AJ Rohosy fan!
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - burger - 11-08-2025
Okorie was sensational, and he's already clearly the team's best player. What a find by the coaching staff!
Small sample size alert: Okorie is currently 8th in D-I in scoring, and he leads all freshmen.
I was expecting a not-so-good season for the team after losing our top 3 players from last year, but now my expectations are starting to grow...
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - FarmTeam - 11-08-2025
(11-08-2025, 05:16 PM)BACardinal Wrote:(11-08-2025, 04:14 PM)PVTree Wrote: Agarwal injured? He's not in the box score.
Batson is in the box score.
Agarwal is sick and listed as day to day
I was at the game. Agarwal wasn't even on the bench, so he must be pretty sick!
Okorie is special. Wow. Plays with pace but not frantic or out of control. Great body control and can finish at the rim. Nice shooting stroke. And his quickness and anticipation on defense was harassing.
I don't think there's all that much talent on this roster other than Okorie though. Imo, the other high-minutes guys are ok-ish ACC players: Okpara, Agarwal, Geiler, Camman. I don't think we'll be at the very bottom of the ACC like was projected by many, but keeping my expectations well in check. Defense will be solid but exposed against good teams by our lack of athleticism, and I don't think any of those guys (with the possible exception of Okpara) will be able to score with any consistency against the good teams either. I hope I'm wrong though!
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - GK3 - 11-08-2025
(11-08-2025, 05:39 PM)burger Wrote: Okorie was sensational, and he's already clearly the team's best player. What a find by the coaching staff!
Small sample size alert: Okorie is currently 8th in D-I in scoring, and he leads all freshmen.
I was expecting a not-so-good season for the team after losing our top 3 players from last year, but now my expectations are starting to grow...
I am ancient enough to have had season tickiets when Brevin was a frosh. It may be blasphemous to say I think Ebuka is better now than Brevin was at the same point, but he may also have a better supporting cast. I hope we can limit his early season minutes so he stays healthy
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - needle - 11-08-2025
(11-08-2025, 05:48 PM)FarmTeam Wrote:(11-08-2025, 05:16 PM)BACardinal Wrote:(11-08-2025, 04:14 PM)PVTree Wrote: Agarwal injured? He's not in the box score.
Batson is in the box score.
Agarwal is sick and listed as day to day
I was at the game. Agarwal wasn't even on the bench, so he must be pretty sick!
Okorie is special. Wow. Plays with pace but not frantic or out of control. Great body control and can finish at the rim. Nice shooting stroke. And his quickness and anticipation on defense was harassing.
I don't think there's all that much talent on this roster other than Okorie though. Imo, the other high-minutes guys are ok-ish ACC players: Okpara, Agarwal, Geiler, Camman. I don't think we'll be at the very bottom of the ACC like was projected by many, but keeping my expectations well in check. Defense will be solid but exposed against good teams by our lack of athleticism, and I don't think any of those guys (with the possible exception of Okpara) will be able to score with any consistency against the good teams either. I hope I'm wrong though!
In terms of scoring, I have my eye on the Belgian, Giltay, who did not play today. Others like Skrinda. We also (surely) have not seen the best of Donavin Young. I'm pretty excited to see what might blossom with those guys.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - CTcard - 11-08-2025
(11-08-2025, 05:49 PM)GK3 Wrote: I am ancient enough to have had season tickiets when Brevin was a frosh. It may be blasphemous to say I think Ebuka is better now than Brevin was at the same point, but he may also have a better supporting cast. I hope we can limit his early season minutes so he stays healthy
Brevin is the obvious comparison here.
Ebuka is a better shooter and scorer of course, lots of point guards were.
I don't think Ebuka is quite as quick, but I think he is the closest on that score that we have seen in a pg.
However, Ebuka only has 4 total assists so far. Not sure how many Brevin had at this point but one of his magical qualities was to get other guys baskets who had ... limited offensive skills.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - FarmTeam - 11-08-2025
(11-08-2025, 06:30 PM)CTcard Wrote:(11-08-2025, 05:49 PM)GK3 Wrote: I am ancient enough to have had season tickiets when Brevin was a frosh. It may be blasphemous to say I think Ebuka is better now than Brevin was at the same point, but he may also have a better supporting cast. I hope we can limit his early season minutes so he stays healthy
Brevin is the obvious comparison here.
Ebuka is a better shooter and scorer of course, lots of point guards were.
I don't think Ebuka is quite as quick, but I think he is the closest on that score that we have seen in a pg.
However, Ebuka only has 4 total assists so far. Not sure how many Brevin had at this point but one of his magical qualities was to get other guys baskets who had ... limited offensive skills.
Ebuka is taller and built more solidly, and, yes, not quite as lightning fast as Brevin was but fast enough! Brevin's support cast as a freshman wasn't any better than this one. It did get better though (Tim Young, Art Lee, Pete Sauer, etc). If we can hang onto him (a big "if"), hopefully same is true. In Kyle I trust.
(11-08-2025, 06:01 PM)needle Wrote:(11-08-2025, 05:48 PM)FarmTeam Wrote:(11-08-2025, 05:16 PM)BACardinal Wrote:(11-08-2025, 04:14 PM)PVTree Wrote: Agarwal injured? He's not in the box score.
Batson is in the box score.
Agarwal is sick and listed as day to day
I was at the game. Agarwal wasn't even on the bench, so he must be pretty sick!
Okorie is special. Wow. Plays with pace but not frantic or out of control. Great body control and can finish at the rim. Nice shooting stroke. And his quickness and anticipation on defense was harassing.
I don't think there's all that much talent on this roster other than Okorie though. Imo, the other high-minutes guys are ok-ish ACC players: Okpara, Agarwal, Geiler, Camman. I don't think we'll be at the very bottom of the ACC like was projected by many, but keeping my expectations well in check. Defense will be solid but exposed against good teams by our lack of athleticism, and I don't think any of those guys (with the possible exception of Okpara) will be able to score with any consistency against the good teams either. I hope I'm wrong though!
In terms of scoring, I have my eye on the Belgian, Giltay, who did not play today. Others like Skrinda. We also (surely) have not seen the best of Donavin Young. I'm pretty excited to see what might blossom with those guys.
I was sitting behind the bench. I'll pay extra for the entertainment value of watching Kyle in action, lol. Needless to say, he is intense and shows it.
I was wondering why Skrinda and Giltay weren't playing. I assumed it's because they're not deserving of minutes yet. Which makes them projects.
Skrinda finally came in during mid-second half and I never took my eyes off of him. Yep, he's a project. Looked tentative and the coaches were instructing him every moment (maybe too much), but you could see some talent. At risk of sounding ridiculous, he reminded me of Raynaud as a frosh. Good size, moves ok, really nice shooting touch, a little bit lost. I remember during Raynaud's freshman year complaining constantly that he didn't play more. I chalk that up to the reign of error of Jerod Haase and Bernard Muir, who incompetently and criminally kept extending Haase as we all know.
The Belgian didn't play and, like I said, I'm assuming that's for a reason. Toure also got a few minutes as one of our big men and looked lost and a little underwhelming talent-wise. And don't get me started on Cameron Grant. He had a couple of nice moments, but he's not an ACC-level player in my book. I'm assuming/hoping he was just getting Agarwal's minutes.
RE: MBB: Stanford vs. Montana 1PM Saturday, ACCNX - midnight21 - 11-08-2025
Encouraging performance to start the year, especially given how short-handed we are. Okorie already appears to be our best guard since Randle.
I also found confirmation on X/Twitter that in addition to Agarwal and Young, Stinson and Giltay were unavailable today. My guess is Batson was also out. With those guys in the lineup, it seems highly unlikely that Grant or Toure will be in the rotation.
Excited to see this team get healthy and develop over the course of the season. Kyle seems to have us on a great trajectory.