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Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - newguy - 01-28-2026

Did Bill Belichick deserve to be snubbed on the first ballot?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-belichick-hall-of-fame-snub/

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - Jskass - 01-28-2026

just feels like his UNC foray did not help. Still deserves it.

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - Mick - 01-28-2026

Tough call. The pinnacle of achievement as a head coach is Super Bowl victories. Here's the list (super bowl winning coach elected to Hall of Fame is in bold below) current head coaches in italics:

Bill Belichick (6)

Chuck Noll (4)

Joe Gibbs (3) 
Andy Reid (3)
Bill Walsh (3)

Tom Coughlin (2)
Tom Flores (2)
Jimmy Johnson (2)
Tom Landry (2)
Vince Lombardi (2) (and three other NFL Championships)
Sean McVay (2)
Bill Parcells (2) 
George Seifert (2)
Mike Shanahan (2)
Nick Siriani (2) 
Don Shula (2)

Bruce Arians
Brian Billick
Pete Carroll
Bill Cowher
Mike Ditka (elected as player)
Tony Dungy
Weeb Ewbank
Jon Gruden
John Harbaugh
Mike Holmgren
Gary Kubiak
John Madden
Don McCafferty
Mike McCarthy
Doug Pederson
Hank Stram 
Barry Switzer
Mike Tomlin
Dick Vermeil

And to be fair, both Bud Grant and Marv Levy are in the NFL HoF with four Super Bowl losses and zero SB wins each.

Belichick has the second-highest career winning percentage of any NFL head coach not in the Hall of Fame. The highest? George Seifert. Both are egregious omissions. Belichick has the third most NFL wins overall of any coach behind Shula and Halas. Seifert is #38 overall, right behind George Allen and just ahead of Norv Turner and former Stanford coach Denny Green. Acknowledged coaching geniuses Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh are #47 and #51 on the career winning list respectively.

Personally, I think both Belichick and Seifert belong and it is egregious in the extreme that Belichick is not elected. Two big differences between Walsh and Seifert, incidentally; 1) Seifert spent the majority of his HC career under a salary cap, while Walsh had a free spending owner, and 2) Seifert as DC finished in the Top 4 in fewest points allowed six of 10 years.

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - PVTree - 01-28-2026

Not a fan of his, but do believe his achievements merit induction into the HOF.

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - burger - 01-28-2026

There's a lesson here: don't cheat.

There's zero chance that that filming other teams' signals hadn't been going on for a long time.  Zero chance.  And Bob Kraft's good buddy Roger Goodell gave them a slap on the wrist, essentially (losing the last pick in the first round is not a big deal for a team with a ton of talent).

Belichick should have been banned from the league then and there.

(I look forward to some patriots fan on the board here giving me a 14-paragraph response explaining how there was only 1 incident proven and that Bill had nothing to do with it)

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - SkiBum80 - 01-28-2026

(01-28-2026, 09:22 AM)PVTree Wrote:  Not a fan of his, but do believe his achievements merit induction into the HOF.

Agree
Dan Wetzel of ESPN on the case for Belichick:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47748034/belichick-first-ballot-shut-hall-down

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - BostonCard - 01-28-2026

Interesting article about one selector who didn’t vote for Belichek.

https://www.si.com/nfl/hall-of-fame-voter-explains-why-he-didnt-vote-bill-belichick

Not so much a vote against Belichek but a vote for other deserving candidates who have been waiting longer.

BC

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - CompSci87 - 01-28-2026

That sounds like quite a weird voting system, though I must admit I didn't fully understand it from the explanation given.

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - newguy - 01-28-2026

from the Hall of Fame:  
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-belichick-pro-football-hall-of-fame-statement/

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - Mick - 01-28-2026

There are five NFL head coaches who were first-ballot NFL Hall of Fame members. Famously, six-time Super Bowl winner (most by two wins) Bill Belichick was not among them.

Who are the five? Hint: They were the #8, #10, #18, #31, and #44 head coaches in terms of career winning percentage.

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - PVTree - 01-29-2026

Who would be on your Mt. Rushmore of head coaches? 

Lombardi, Walsh, Gibbs, Landry, Shula, Reid, Belichick, Grant, Halas, Coryell, Parcells?

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - PalmTree - 01-29-2026

(01-29-2026, 01:08 AM)PVTree Wrote:  Who would be on your Mt. Rushmore of head coaches? 

Lombardi, Walsh, Gibbs, Landry, Shula, Reid, Belichick, Grant, Halas, Coryell, Parcells?

I'd omit Coryell (never won the SB, not as good an overall regular- or post-season record as others on your list, winning 57% of all games and going 3 -9 in the playoffs, making the playoffs in 6 of 13 years as HC) and add: and maybe  Also instead/ahead of Coryell, I'd consider: Main takeaway for these last two - New Orleans, where coaching careers go to die.....

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - Mick - 01-29-2026

Madden (Highest winning percentage of any coach with 100 or more games).

Halas (second most wins)

Shula (most wins, two super bowls)

Walsh (West Coast offense, three SB wins, spurred two more)

Belichick (6 SB wins, third most wins)

Lombardi (2 SB wins, three NFL championships, 2nd highest win percentage of any coach with 100 or more games)

Great anecdote by Madden. Someone asked him who was the greatest coach, and he replied Lombardi...when asked why, he said, "Lombardi talked about one play, the power sweep...for eight hours. And he didn't repeat himself."

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - SkiBum80 - 01-29-2026

Apologies in advance for going a bit off topic.
The discussion of greatest alltime Coaches and thinking of Lombardi got me to thinking how his famous quote might go over for different groups.

Lombardi:  Gentlemen, this is a Football!

USC:  Hang on Coach, you're going to fast
Stanford Philosophy club:  In a metaphysical sense, is the football aware of its existence?
OJ:  I didn't do it
Bill Clinton:  It depends on what your definition of "is" is
Tom Brady: It looks a little overinflated to me, let me fix that..
Australian Football club:  You call that wimpy thing a football?
Macbeth:  Football is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - Giants - 01-29-2026

Belichick deserves the honor.  Period. 

The voting system is to blame.  Of the five senior/administrative candidates, electors could only choose three.  If all five were worthy of the honor, why restrict the vote to three?  

Ridiculous…..

My Mt. Rushmore…

Halas
Lombardi
Walsh
Belichick

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - TonyLima - 01-29-2026

(01-28-2026, 05:48 AM)newguy Wrote:  Did Bill Belichick deserve to be snubbed on the first ballot?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-belichick-hall-of-fame-snub/
At least the baseball HOF has an excuse: the baseball writers (re: press) cast the votes. What’s football’s reason?

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - Mick - 01-29-2026

(01-29-2026, 02:44 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  
(01-28-2026, 05:48 AM)newguy Wrote:  Did Bill Belichick deserve to be snubbed on the first ballot?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-belichick-hall-of-fame-snub/
At least the baseball HOF has an excuse: the baseball writers (re: press) cast the votes. What’s football’s reason?

I think you have a couple of issues here.

1) The 80% threshold is onerous. 40 of 50 have to vote for the candidate.
2) Each voter is limited to selecting a maximum three of five final ballot candidates.
3) There is a lengthy winnowing process before the final vote.
4) Voter identities are secret (maybe not the best kept secret) and they are threatened if they publicize their votes.
5) The committee is media-heavy and invitation only.
6) Smaller secretive group allows a few dissenters to block candidates

Therefore, the NFL has more controversy than the other sports. MLB has a 75% approval for candidates, but there is a 10 year eligibility window, and a veteran's committee afterward...and they are allowed to vote for up to ten per ballot. And they publicize their vote totals.

NBA has 24 on the committee, and majority approval after multi-stage review, similar to the NHL and MLS.

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - TonyLima - 01-29-2026

(01-29-2026, 02:58 PM)Mick Wrote:  
(01-29-2026, 02:44 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  
(01-28-2026, 05:48 AM)newguy Wrote:  Did Bill Belichick deserve to be snubbed on the first ballot?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bill-belichick-hall-of-fame-snub/
At least the baseball HOF has an excuse: the baseball writers (re: press) cast the votes. What’s football’s reason?

I think you have a couple of issues here.

1) The 80% threshold is onerous. 40 of 50 have to vote for the candidate.
2) Each voter is limited to selecting a maximum three of five final ballot candidates.
3) There is a lengthy winnowing process before the final vote.
4) Voter identities are secret (maybe not the best kept secret) and they are threatened if they publicize their votes.
5) The committee is media-heavy and invitation only.
6) Smaller secretive group allows a few dissenters to block candidates

Therefore, the NFL has more controversy than the other sports. MLB has a 75% approval for candidates, but there is a 10 year eligibility window, and a veteran's committee afterward...and they are allowed to vote for up to ten per ballot. And they publicize their vote totals.

NBA has 24 on the committee, and majority approval after multi-stage review, similar to the NHL and MLS.

TYVM!

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - fullmetal - 01-29-2026

He'll get in eventually.  If he doesn't care to think about the consequences of dating someone a whole generation younger than his daughter, then surely he doesn't care about how long it takes for him to make the HOF.

RE: Belichick Snubbed for Hall of Fame - 82lsju - 01-29-2026

(01-29-2026, 02:58 PM)Mick Wrote:  I think you have a couple of issues here.

1) The 80% threshold is onerous. 40 of 50 have to vote for the candidate.
2) Each voter is limited to selecting a maximum three of five final ballot candidates.
3) There is a lengthy winnowing process before the final vote.
4) Voter identities are secret (maybe not the best kept secret) and they are threatened if they publicize their votes.
5) The committee is media-heavy and invitation only.
6) Smaller secretive group allows a few dissenters to block candidates

Therefore, the NFL has more controversy than the other sports. MLB has a 75% approval for candidates, but there is a 10 year eligibility window, and a veteran's committee afterward...and they are allowed to vote for up to ten per ballot. And they publicize their vote totals.

NBA has 24 on the committee, and majority approval after multi-stage review, similar to the NHL and MLS.

so there are 50 voters and each gets three votes so 150 total votes so at best you could elect three people and at worst zero.