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WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting; "The 40/100 Club" - 81alum - 01-16-2012

This might be fun and a trip down memory lane for some of you who have followed Stanford Women's Basketball for the whole Tara era.

I found the NCAA statistics site where I could peruse stats that predate those provided online by the Stanford Athletics Department, and for the heck of it I thought I would look to see how many Stanford women there have been who have attempted 100 three point shots and made 40% for a season.  If we did not have anyone that year who accomplished that, I put the best shooter in parentheses.

The answer is:  15 have done it, but it is getting increasingly rare.

During Jennifer Azzi's freshman year there were no three point shots, apparently, or else no stats were kept.  I suspect the three point shot was added in the mid 80s, probably heading into her sophomore year?

I have one question--there was one name that jumped off the stat sheet that I do not remember.  Jamie Carey hit 45.5% her frosh year in 99-00, and then seems to have vanished.  Did she leave the team after that year?

87-88
Jennifer Azzi .433

88-89
Jennifer Azzi .495
Katy Steding .446

89-90
Katy Steding .464
Jennifer Azzi .442

90-91
(Sonja Henning .380)

91-92
Molly Goodenbour .423

92-93
(Molly Goodenbour .385)

93-94
Christy Hedgpath .402
(Bobby Kelsey .445 but took only 72 attempts)

94-95
(Kate Paye .394)

95-96
(Vanessa Nygaard .389)

96-97
Kate Starbird .425

97-98
Vanessa Nygaard .460

99-00
Lauren St. Claire .466
Jamie Carey .455

00-01
Lindsey Yamasaki .425

01-02
Nicole Powell .420
(Sebnem Kimyacioglu .424 on 99 attempts)
(Kelley Suminkski .463 on 82 attempts)

02-03
(Nicole Powell .404 on 89 attempts)
(Sebnem Kimyacioglu .395)

03-04
Susan King Borchardt .437

04-05
Kelley Suminski .419

05-06
Krista Rappahahn .438
Candice Wiggins .433

06-07
Candice Wiggins .441

07-08
(J.J. Hones .378 )

08-09
(Jeanette Pohlen .373)

09-10
(Kayla Pederson .377)

10-11
Jeanette Pohlen .417

WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting; "The 40/100 Club" - 81alum - 01-16-2012

This might be fun and a trip down memory lane for some of you who have followed Stanford Women's Basketball for the whole Tara era.

I found the NCAA statistics site where I could peruse stats that predate those provided online by the Stanford Athletics Department, and for the heck of it I thought I would look to see how many Stanford women there have been who have attempted 100 three point shots and made 40% for a season.  If we did not have anyone that year who accomplished that, I put the best shooter in parentheses.

The answer is:  15 have done it, but it is getting increasingly rare.

During Jennifer Azzi's freshman year there were no three point shots, apparently, or else no stats were kept.  I suspect the three point shot was added in the mid 80s, probably heading into her sophomore year?

I have one question--there was one name that jumped off the stat sheet that I do not remember.  Jamie Carey hit 45.5% her frosh year in 99-00, and then seems to have vanished.  Did she leave the team after that year?

87-88
Jennifer Azzi .433

88-89
Jennifer Azzi .495
Katy Steding .446

89-90
Katy Steding .464
Jennifer Azzi .442

90-91
(Sonja Henning .380)

91-92
Molly Goodenbour .423

92-93
(Molly Goodenbour .385)

93-94
Christy Hedgpath .402
(Bobby Kelsey .445 but took only 72 attempts)

94-95
(Kate Paye .394)

95-96
(Vanessa Nygaard .389)

96-97
Kate Starbird .425

97-98
Vanessa Nygaard .460

99-00
Lauren St. Claire .466
Jamie Carey .455

00-01
Lindsey Yamasaki .425

01-02
Nicole Powell .420
(Sebnem Kimyacioglu .424 on 99 attempts)
(Kelley Suminkski .463 on 82 attempts)

02-03
(Nicole Powell .404 on 89 attempts)
(Sebnem Kimyacioglu .395)

03-04
Susan King Borchardt .437

04-05
Kelley Suminski .419

05-06
Krista Rappahahn .438
Candice Wiggins .433

06-07
Candice Wiggins .441

07-08
(J.J. Hones .378 )

08-09
(Jeanette Pohlen .373)

09-10
(Kayla Pederson .377)

10-11
Jeanette Pohlen .417

WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting; "The 40/100 Club" - 81alum - 01-16-2012

This might be fun and a trip down memory lane for some of you who have followed Stanford Women's Basketball for the whole Tara era.

I found the NCAA statistics site where I could peruse stats that predate those provided online by the Stanford Athletics Department, and for the heck of it I thought I would look to see how many Stanford women there have been who have attempted 100 three point shots and made 40% for a season.  If we did not have anyone that year who accomplished that, I put the best shooter in parentheses.

The answer is:  15 have done it, but it is getting increasingly rare.

During Jennifer Azzi's freshman year there were no three point shots, apparently, or else no stats were kept.  I suspect the three point shot was added in the mid 80s, probably heading into her sophomore year?

I have one question--there was one name that jumped off the stat sheet that I do not remember.  Jamie Carey hit 45.5% her frosh year in 99-00, and then seems to have vanished.  Did she leave the team after that year?

87-88
Jennifer Azzi .433

88-89
Jennifer Azzi .495
Katy Steding .446

89-90
Katy Steding .464
Jennifer Azzi .442

90-91
(Sonja Henning .380)

91-92
Molly Goodenbour .423

92-93
(Molly Goodenbour .385)

93-94
Christy Hedgpath .402
(Bobby Kelsey .445 but took only 72 attempts)

94-95
(Kate Paye .394)

95-96
(Vanessa Nygaard .389)

96-97
Kate Starbird .425

97-98
Vanessa Nygaard .460

99-00
Lauren St. Claire .466
Jamie Carey .455

00-01
Lindsey Yamasaki .425

01-02
Nicole Powell .420
(Sebnem Kimyacioglu .424 on 99 attempts)
(Kelley Suminkski .463 on 82 attempts)

02-03
(Nicole Powell .404 on 89 attempts)
(Sebnem Kimyacioglu .395)

03-04
Susan King Borchardt .437

04-05
Kelley Suminski .419

05-06
Krista Rappahahn .438
Candice Wiggins .433

06-07
Candice Wiggins .441

07-08
(J.J. Hones .378 )

08-09
(Jeanette Pohlen .373)

09-10
(Kayla Pederson .377)

10-11
Jeanette Pohlen .417

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - CompSci87 - 01-16-2012

Wikipedia has a short summary of Jamie Carey's career: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Carey.

People like to cite her case and argue that Stanford's doctors were too conservative in not clearing her to play, since she later played successfully at Texas and in the WNBA, but from what I've read online in other places about how severe her symptoms were -- she never really fully recovered -- I think Stanford's decision was very reasonable. If you google her name you'll find lots of articles. The one that was most telling for me was a 2007 article in the Chronicle of Higher Education, but they seem to have moved that article behind a pay wall since I read it.


Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - CompSci87 - 01-16-2012

Wikipedia has a short summary of Jamie Carey's career: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Carey.

People like to cite her case and argue that Stanford's doctors were too conservative in not clearing her to play, since she later played successfully at Texas and in the WNBA, but from what I've read online in other places about how severe her symptoms were -- she never really fully recovered -- I think Stanford's decision was very reasonable. If you google her name you'll find lots of articles. The one that was most telling for me was a 2007 article in the Chronicle of Higher Education, but they seem to have moved that article behind a pay wall since I read it.


Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - CompSci87 - 01-16-2012

Wikipedia has a short summary of Jamie Carey's career: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Carey.

People like to cite her case and argue that Stanford's doctors were too conservative in not clearing her to play, since she later played successfully at Texas and in the WNBA, but from what I've read online in other places about how severe her symptoms were -- she never really fully recovered -- I think Stanford's decision was very reasonable. If you google her name you'll find lots of articles. The one that was most telling for me was a 2007 article in the Chronicle of Higher Education, but they seem to have moved that article behind a pay wall since I read it.


Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - CompSci87 - 01-16-2012

On the history of the 3-point shot, I found an article that says the Pac-10 introduced it in 1986-87. If the women's team didn't have any 3-pointers that season, I suppose it might be that only the men introduced it in 86-87 while the women waited until 87-88. Just guessing there.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=675171

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - CompSci87 - 01-16-2012

On the history of the 3-point shot, I found an article that says the Pac-10 introduced it in 1986-87. If the women's team didn't have any 3-pointers that season, I suppose it might be that only the men introduced it in 86-87 while the women waited until 87-88. Just guessing there.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=675171

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - CompSci87 - 01-16-2012

On the history of the 3-point shot, I found an article that says the Pac-10 introduced it in 1986-87. If the women's team didn't have any 3-pointers that season, I suppose it might be that only the men introduced it in 86-87 while the women waited until 87-88. Just guessing there.

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=675171

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

Thanks for the information on Jamie Carey.  I finally did find a Stanford press announcement on what was thought to be the end of her career:

http://www.gostanford.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/110700aaa.html

And I did track down the NCAA rule change:  the three point shot was introduced to women's college basketball in 1987 (one year after the Pac-10 added it for men.)  Jennifer Azzi came in 1986, so there were no three point shots her freshman year.



Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

Thanks for the information on Jamie Carey.  I finally did find a Stanford press announcement on what was thought to be the end of her career:

http://www.gostanford.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/110700aaa.html

And I did track down the NCAA rule change:  the three point shot was introduced to women's college basketball in 1987 (one year after the Pac-10 added it for men.)  Jennifer Azzi came in 1986, so there were no three point shots her freshman year.



Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

Thanks for the information on Jamie Carey.  I finally did find a Stanford press announcement on what was thought to be the end of her career:

http://www.gostanford.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/110700aaa.html

And I did track down the NCAA rule change:  the three point shot was introduced to women's college basketball in 1987 (one year after the Pac-10 added it for men.)  Jennifer Azzi came in 1986, so there were no three point shots her freshman year.



Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

One other tidbit.  Those old annual reports also give all the attendance figures.  When Jennifer Azzi was a frosh, total home attendance for Stanford was 5,925.  When she graduated (Stanford's first national championship year), total home attendance was 63,743. 

Last year, for comparison, attendance was 82,263.

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

One other tidbit.  Those old annual reports also give all the attendance figures.  When Jennifer Azzi was a frosh, total home attendance for Stanford was 5,925.  When she graduated (Stanford's first national championship year), total home attendance was 63,743. 

Last year, for comparison, attendance was 82,263.

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

One other tidbit.  Those old annual reports also give all the attendance figures.  When Jennifer Azzi was a frosh, total home attendance for Stanford was 5,925.  When she graduated (Stanford's first national championship year), total home attendance was 63,743. 

Last year, for comparison, attendance was 82,263.

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

Bonnie Samuelson is possibly on track to join the 40/100 club, if she gets enough playing time to make 100 attempts.  So far she is .418 on 55 attempts. 

Here are our current shooters with percent/attempts (more than 20 attempts):

Bonnie Samuelson .418 on 55 attempts
Taylor Greenfield .378 on 37 attempts
Toni Kokenis .328 on 61 attempts
Sara James .286 on 21 attempts
Lindy LaRocque .278 on 72 attempts

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

Bonnie Samuelson is possibly on track to join the 40/100 club, if she gets enough playing time to make 100 attempts.  So far she is .418 on 55 attempts. 

Here are our current shooters with percent/attempts (more than 20 attempts):

Bonnie Samuelson .418 on 55 attempts
Taylor Greenfield .378 on 37 attempts
Toni Kokenis .328 on 61 attempts
Sara James .286 on 21 attempts
Lindy LaRocque .278 on 72 attempts

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - 81alum - 01-16-2012

Bonnie Samuelson is possibly on track to join the 40/100 club, if she gets enough playing time to make 100 attempts.  So far she is .418 on 55 attempts. 

Here are our current shooters with percent/attempts (more than 20 attempts):

Bonnie Samuelson .418 on 55 attempts
Taylor Greenfield .378 on 37 attempts
Toni Kokenis .328 on 61 attempts
Sara James .286 on 21 attempts
Lindy LaRocque .278 on 72 attempts

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - Yellowlab - 01-18-2012

(01-16-2012, 06:23 PM)81alum link Wrote:Bonnie Samuelson is possibly on track to join the 40/100 club, if she gets enough playing time to make 100 attempts.  So far she is .418 on 55 attempts. 

Here are our current shooters with percent/attempts (more than 20 attempts):

Bonnie Samuelson .418 on 55 attempts
Taylor Greenfield .378 on 37 attempts
Toni Kokenis .328 on 61 attempts
Sara James .286 on 21 attempts
Lindy LaRocque .278 on 72 attempts

I might go out on a limb and argue that you should never be a member of the 20/100 club.

Re: WBB: History of Stanford 3 pt. shooting - Yellowlab - 01-18-2012

(01-16-2012, 06:23 PM)81alum link Wrote:Bonnie Samuelson is possibly on track to join the 40/100 club, if she gets enough playing time to make 100 attempts.  So far she is .418 on 55 attempts. 

Here are our current shooters with percent/attempts (more than 20 attempts):

Bonnie Samuelson .418 on 55 attempts
Taylor Greenfield .378 on 37 attempts
Toni Kokenis .328 on 61 attempts
Sara James .286 on 21 attempts
Lindy LaRocque .278 on 72 attempts

I might go out on a limb and argue that you should never be a member of the 20/100 club.