Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
TreeFitty - 04-19-2012
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/as-good-as-it-gets-vn4vq54-148038285.html
Both hit above the unofficial minimum for QB's of 21, as expected.
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
76lsjumb - 04-19-2012
Interesting quote from the article:
Couch and Leaf were abject failures, Mirer never really made it and Plunkett's career was careening toward oblivion before he righted the ship and won two Super Bowl rings with the Raiders in his mid-30s.
Yeah, other than those two Super Bowl things, the guy was a bust... ???
IIRC, Plunkett was ROY behind an O-line with the Patriots that , in its entirety [and with the second-string thrown in for good measure] probably was slightly less effective than David DeCastro would be if you tied his arms and legs together and blindfolded him. Forget about oblivion, Plunkett had to spend a few years "careening for his life..."
I hope Andrew isn't forced to do the same. I imagine it's a little harder to cattouse people in the NFL...
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 - pincemob - 04-19-2012
Whoa, that is a pretty big disparity. You never know how seriously each guy took the test, and very hard to draw any conclusions based on a 50 question test. With that said, RG3 seemed to take
every competition very seriously and I can't imagine him tanking his Wonderlic. Below is how the Wonderlic maps to other professions, per Wikipedia. The average football player is around 20.Â
Systems Analyst - 32
Chemist 31
Electrical Engineer - 30
Engineer - 29
Programmer 29
Accountant - 28
Executive - 28
Reporter - 28
Teacher - 28
Copywriter - 27
Investment Analyst - 27
Librarian - 27
Electronics technician - 26
Salesperson 25
Secretary - 24
Dispatcher - 23
Drafter - 23
Electrician - 23
Nurse - 23
Bank teller 22
Cashier - 21
Firefighter - 21
General Clerical worker 21
Machinist - 21
Receptionist - 21
Train Conductor - 21
Skilled Craftsman - 18
Security guard 17
Welder - 17
Warehouseman 15
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Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
Griffins78 - 04-19-2012
What does 37 map to?
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
76lsjumb - 04-19-2012
(04-19-2012, 09:19 PM)Griffin78 link Wrote:What does 37 map to?
Two-time Voldemort Trophy Runner-up, apparently... ;)
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
CowboyIndian - 04-19-2012
So he's not only a horse's ass, but a bag of academic hot air, too. Good to know.
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
fullmetal - 04-20-2012
a systems analyst rates higher than an electrical engineer? what?Â
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
CowboyIndian - 04-20-2012
Plunkett's other problem with the Pats...besides a porous OL...was his coach, former Oklahoma head man Chuck Fairbanks, who tried to institute the QB option in the pros with one of the greatest pocket passers of all time. Jim paid for that experiment and he's still paying today.
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
akiddoc - 04-20-2012
RG III was heavily recruited by Stanford and was considered a shoo-in for admission. I wouldn't be too hard on him.
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
CowboyIndian - 04-21-2012
(04-20-2012, 11:04 PM)akiddoc link Wrote:RG III was heavily recruited by Stanford and was considered a shoe-in for admission. I wouldn't be too hard on him.
You wouldn't....I would. Makes the world go 'round.
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
FarmBoy - 04-21-2012
Quote:So he's not only a horse's ass, but a bag of academic hot air, too. Good to know.
I just don't see how you get Griffin's (unofficially reported) Wonderlic score of 24 = "bag of academic hot air". Where has the connection been made between Wonderlic and academics? My understanding of the Wonderlic is that it tests one's ability quickly process and analyze information. It doesn't test how hard you study or the knowledge you've gained over a lifetime of study. RGIII is a poli sci major, for god's sakes. How many poli scie questions do you think are on the Wonderlic?
I strongly suspect that Andrew Luck is the smarter of the two, both academically and native intelligence, but this score says nothing about RGIII's academic credentials. In fact, he's succeeded despite not have a brain that inherently processes and organizes data as quickly as Luck's (assuming these reported scores are accurate.)
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
CowboyIndian - 04-21-2012
Guess it's gotta be the socks, then.
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 - michael - 04-27-2012
Heres some W scores for current QB's in NFL...(notice A. Rodgers, Mannings, Rivers, etc.)
Wonderlic scores for the NFL's starting quarterbacks:
1. Ryan Fitzpatrick 48
2. Alex Smith 40
3. Eli Manning 39
4. Matt Stafford 38
5. Tony Romo 37
6. Aaron Rodgers 37
6. Matt Leinart 33
8. Philip Rivers 33
9. Matt Ryan 32
10. Matt Schaub 32
11. Tom Brady 32
12. Matt Hasselbeck 29
12. Marc Bulger 29
12. Brady Quinn 29
15. Mark Sanchez 28
15. Peyton Manning 28
15. Drew Brees 28
18. Josh Freeman 27
18. Joe Flacco 27
20. Carson Palmer 26
20. Jay Cutler 26
20. Kyle Orton 26
23. Ben Roethlisberger 25
24. Jason Campbell 23
25. Brett Favre 22
25. Tim Tebow 22
25. Chad Henne 22
28. Bruce Gradkowski 19
29. Vince Young 15
30. Donovan McNabb 14
30. David Garrard 14
Unknown: Matt Cassel, Matt Moore
Top quarterback prospects in 2010 NFL draft
Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 36
Colt McCoy, Texas 25
Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame 23
Tebow 22
Other Wonderlic scores of note:
Brian Griese 39
Drew Bledsoe 36
Steve Young 33
John Elway 29
Chad Pennington 25
JaMarcus Russell 14
Mark Brunell 22
Trent Dilfer 22
Michael Vick 20
Daunte Culpepper 18
Dan Marino 15
Randall Cunningham 15
Jim Kelly 15
Terry Bradshaw 15
Chris Leak 8
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
washingtonismoney - 04-27-2012
Looks like "no correlation" is the most likely answer to "how much to Wonderlic scores matter in predicting QB performance?"
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 -
LuckE2Bhere - 04-27-2012
but a regression that reasonably adjusted for other factors could be interesting -- i.e., if a QB had incredible talents, but a lower Wonderlic score, and proved to be a mediocre NFL QB, it might still justify the significance of the indicator.Â
I shudder to think what my wonderlic score would be - Redrum - 04-27-2012
RGIII would kick my ass.Â
Re: I shudder to think what my wonderlic score would be -
CowboyIndian - 04-27-2012
(04-27-2012, 09:26 PM)Redrum link Wrote:RGIII would kick my ass.
Then he'd tell you all about it.
Re: Andrew Luck's Wonderlic: 37, Robert Griffin's Wonderlic: 24 - readarmy1976 - 04-29-2012
If you mention that Andrew Luck is better than RG3 at something, you are a racist biased against black quarterbacks! DO NOT talk about Luck's longer broad jump at 20 pounds heavier or Lucks much higher wonderlick score. Shhhhh!!! Also, do not mention that luck is bigger and stronger. Remember, in this draft, there are really two first picks, Luck and RG3. Don't be a racist. Thanks. :)