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SJS to announce new athletic director - yvonne - 05-24-2012

San Jose State's athletic director left for Memphis April 16. Today, the school is introducing its new AD.

Are we choosing to be more deliberate with the search, or is there something more attractive about SJSU? All I've heard about are people who don't want to be the Stanford AD.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - washingtonismoney - 05-24-2012

Probably choosing to be deliberate. It took months between Leland and Bowlsby and I don't see any reason why it has to be done immediately anyway. Better to get it done right than quickly after all.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - yvonne - 05-24-2012

Wow. That puts things into a different perspective.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - Farm93 - 05-24-2012

SJSU is in a vastly different situation.  The SJSU AD job is not exactly the best AD position in the land.  SJSU has big time budget challenges.  SJSU has little alumni support for athletics.  SJSU has an attendance problem with football.  SJSU has chronic athlete graduation rate issues.  Oh, and SJSU is fighting a brutal game of musical conference chairs.  They found a spot, but it is not out of the question that some other school will bump them out if they can't get an AD to show the world they are serious about improving their programs.

Meanwhile, at Stanford, the Stanford AD is widely regarded as a destination job.  Budget challenges are smaller.  Student-athlete problems are minor.  The job requires fundraising and lobbying for university support to admit a few athletes.  The job also requires running around the country attending sport championships and picking up awards.  Those are all things ADs probably like about their job.  Musical conference chairs, NCAA graduation rate challenges, crumbling infrastructure, shrinking budgets, and little community support for athletics are probably not desirable.

SJSU's goal? Fill the position ASAP with anybody with a pulse because the department's future is in question.
Stanford's goal?  Find a quality AD, but no need to just pick the next warm body that comes along.

I thought Stanford was pretty much on the record with a belief that the AD will be hired before September.  Perhaps that was just a local writer's projection, but I was not expecting an announcement before the CWS.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - 71Bear - 05-24-2012

Destination job?

Bowlsby - left to become Commissioner of the Big XII
Leland - left to become a VP at Pacific and subsequently was named AD at UOP
Geiger - left to become AD at Maryland

Personally, I don't think there is any such thing as a destination job in any industry. 

Having said that, I concur with those who suggested that the new SJSU AD was a poor choice.  Hiring a guy who was fired from his previous job because of his inability to follow the rules is the first step on the road to perdition....

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - yvonne - 05-24-2012

Bowlsby's job is a step up. Leland may have received strong suggestions to find a new position. Geiger, now that's a head scratcher! I think he was largely responsible for creating the excellence in Stanford's overall athletic program.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - Leftcoast - 05-24-2012

Read the comments on Wilner's blog .... the SJSU guys are ECSTATIC at the choice.

All the cautionary comments are coming from Pac 12 fans or non-SJSU alums.  Wow -  Are they really that blinded by Boise's rise that they are willing to accept such ugly baggage?  I guess so.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - Leftcoast - 05-24-2012

When did Geiger leave?  1989?  I'm not sure Stanford was the NCAA powerhouse they are now back then plus he left for Ohio State which probably dwarfed us in terms of salary, budget and prestige in those days.  I bet he thought it was a no-brainer.

Scratch that .... just remembered he left for Maryland, not Ohio State.  Ok, I'm stumped.  He was an East Coast guy though.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - yvonne - 05-24-2012

Geiger was AD from 1979-1990, according to his Wikipedia entry. During that time, Stanford won the following national championships:

[tt]1979-80 Women's Swimming (AIAW)  1-AIAW Claudia Kolb Thomas
1979-80 Men's Tennis 6* Dick Gould
1980-81 Men's Water Polo 4* Dante Dettamanti
1980-81 Men's Tennis 7* Dick Gould
1981-82 Men's Water Polo 5* Dante Dettamanti
1981-82  Women's Tennis 2-- 1-NCAA, 1-AIAW Frank Brennan
1982-83 Women's Swimming 2-- 1-NCAA, 1-AIAW George Haines
1982-83 Men's Tennis 8* Dick Gould
1983-84 Women's Tennis 3-- 2-NCAA, 1-AIAW Frank Brennan
1984-85 Men's Swimming 2 Skip Kenney
1985-86 Men's Water Polo 6* Dante Dettamanti
1985-86 Men's Swimming 3 Skip Kenney
1985-86 Women's Tennis 4-- 3-NCAA, 1-AIAW Frank Brennan
1985-86 Men's Tennis 9* Dick Gould
1986-87 Men's Water Polo 7* Dante Dettamanti
1986-87 Men's Swimming 4 Skip Kenney
1986-87 Women's Tennis 5-- 4-NCAA, 1-AIAW Frank Brennan
1986-87  Baseball 1 Mark Marquess
1987-88 Men's Tennis 10* Dick Gould
1987-88 Women's Tennis 6-- 5-NCAA, 1-AIAW Frank Brennan
1987-88 Baseball 2 Mark Marquess
1988-89 Women's Swimming 3-- 2-NCAA, 1-AIAW Richard Quick
1988-89 Men's Tennis 11* Dick Gould
1988-89 Women's Tennis 7-- 6-NCAA, 1-AIAW Frank Brennan
1989-90 Women's Basketball 1 Tara VanDerveer
1989-90 Women's Tennis 8-- 7-NCAA, 1-AIAW Frank Brennan
1989-90 Men's Tennis 12* Dick Gould
[/tt]

He wasn't particularly good at hiring football coaches, but he hired both Monty the Traitor and Tara Vanderveer.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - Farm93 - 05-24-2012

(05-24-2012, 01:27 PM)Leftcoast link Wrote:When did Geiger leave?  1989?  I'm not sure Stanford was the NCAA powerhouse they are now back then plus he left for Ohio State which probably dwarfed us in terms of salary, budget and prestige in those days.  I bet he thought it was a no-brainer.

Scratch that .... just remembered he left for Maryland, not Ohio State.  Ok, I'm stumped.  He was an East Coast guy though.
Boise could have been a big loser in the football conference realignments.  The school is in a small town, bad time zone and small state.  There is nothing noteworthy in the football history for the school, town, state or regional.  Yet amazingly, Boise was a desirable catch.

Meanwhile SJSU seems to have so many things going for it.  Big city, big state, a state known with a rich football history and football talent.  Yet amazingly, SJSU has been struggling.  So if someone could make Boise into a player in football and the sports conference games, that person has to be considered a good catch for SJSU.

SJSU is so close to losing football and even D1 status forever, that even I can understand their willingness to look beyond some potential character flaws.  Good for them on finding someone willing to take on the SJSU challenges.

You sound EXACTLY like the San Jose faithful - Redrum - 05-24-2012

"SJSU seems to have so many things going for it.  Big city, big state, a state known with a rich football history and football talent."

All 27 of them.

They ALL almost committed simultaneous suicide when Hawaii got the bid to join the Mountain West and that conference told San Jose to go suck it.    They kept saying the Bay Area TV market alone would have merited an invitation.  And they cited the Big city, big state, a state known for a rich football history and talent.    What they DIDN"T mention:  SJSU has sucked and does suck at the actual playing football thing. It has a small stadium that seldom fills for games.  They don't mention their egregious graduation rate but are quick to chant a list of excuses about how SJSU serves a different student body and should be cut some slack.  In short,  they focus on the BIG picture,  sort of piggy-backing on Bay Area demographics and audience share.  On what makes San Jose worthy of a bigger athletic stage...well,  not so much detail.  But, they're in the MW soon and McIntyre seems to know what he's doing as a coach.  So, maybe they have turned the corner.

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - 71Bear - 05-24-2012

Boise was a mid sized fish in a tiny pond.  SJSU is a minnow in an ocean.  There is no way to compare the two.  In the pecking order of Bay Area sports, SJSU sports rank last behind all the pro teams, all the Stanford teams and all my Alma Mater's teams.  They are a nose ahead of DeLaSalle football.  Boise football was the number #1 sports team in the state of Idaho.....

Once the new AD surveys the landscape, I think he will yearn for a return to the days of blue turf instead of the 10K crowds at Spartan Stadium....



Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - yvonne - 05-25-2012

Mark Purdy's column today focuses on the issues Garvin mentioned above. It appears that SJS fans like Purdy as much as we like Wilner, but they express it with a much higher level of discourse, which you can read below the column.


The news story says Bleymaier was the only candidate interviewed.

Quote:The former UCLA tight end was the only
candidate interviewed for the position, which was posted approximately two weeks ago. Interim athletic director Marie Tuite was interested in the position but did not apply after sensing SJSU's interest in Bleymaier, according to multiple sources. Her future with the school is uncertain.
President Mohammad Qayoumi called the search "fair" and "open" and said he consulted with Cedric Dempsey, the former NCAA president who advises state universities on executive searches. When asked why no one else was interviewed, Qayoumi explained that he likes to move quickly.
"When you have great candidates and you have a public process," he said, "people tend to withdraw."


Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - yvonne - 05-25-2012

(05-24-2012, 10:08 PM)71Bear link Wrote:Boise was a mid sized fish in a tiny pond.  SJSU is a minnow in an ocean.  There is no way to compare the two.  In the pecking order of Bay Area sports, SJSU sports rank last behind all the pro teams, all the Stanford teams and all my Alma Mater's teams.  They are a nose ahead of DeLaSalle football.  Boise football was the number #1 sports team in the state of Idaho.....

Once the new AD surveys the landscape, I think he will yearn for a return to the days of blue turf instead of the 10K crowds at Spartan Stadium....

The Chron didn't bother to send anybody down, and went with a three-paragraph AP story.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/05/24/sports/s103829D46.DTL

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - Farm93 - 05-25-2012

71bear, SJSU is a small time player, but the days of being a viable small time player on the west coast are numbered.  If they can't get into a stable conference now they would likely need to run $10 million type deficits every year.  And NO UC or CSU school should be allowed to continue with that crazy lack of budget discipline.  Right? ;)

SJSU is literally going to sink or swim in 2012 - 2014.  SJSU is clearly the last kid picked to join the MWC party.  In the MWC SJSU could become a credible mid-major type program. Chuckle at the idea, but that should be the SJSU goal.

This hire is important to SJSU because it seems possible that the MWC could be suffering from selection remorse.  Without an AD, SJSU could have been kicked out of their new club.  If that happened, SJSU probably would fall out of D-1A Football.  The goal seemed clear get an AD ASAP to make sure that the MWC keeps us in their mix.  And, better yet, get an AD that knows some of these MWC people to try to secure the spot.  That is my non-SJSU view.

Then if I were a fan of SJSU I could imagine that I would see the possibility that if this AD could get Boise State to become a national power in FBS football, then anything is possible.  And that would mean that getting SJSU to a top 40 level of play could happen.

I am not saying I believe that emerging SJSU football power story, but I am saying I understand how the SJSU community could believe, or even needs to believe in the possibility of, that story. 

Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - 71Bear - 05-25-2012

No need to wink Farm 93...

I am on record that the UCBerkeley Athletic Budget is unreasonably bloated.  I believe strongly that my Alma Mater should slash enough programs (down to the NCAA minimum, if necessary) to get to a point where they no longer require subsidies from the Chancellor.  It is unconscionable for a public university to fund athletics with monies that should be going to reducing tuition costs and providing financial aid to qualified students.  UCLA is running close to break even.  Why should UCBerkeley need an annual $5-8 million subsidy?

NOTE:  My opinion has not been received favorably by my fellow Old Blues.  I guess they have forgotten the critical thinking skills we were taught at UCBerkeley in the late 60's/early 70's.  QUESTION AUTHORITY! 

P.S.  If things don't improve financially, I think the next step is to turn the Berkeley and Los Angeles campuses into Graduate Schools exclusively and pushing undergrads to the other campuses.  Creative thinking is needed if the University system is to live within their means..

Bottom Line:  The compact the University made with the citizens of California - to provide a superior education at an affordable price has been broken.  It is still a superior education but not at an affordable price.  What happened to the "Promise"?

Ummmm. Baldwin's "consistent" winning at SJSU - Redrum - 05-25-2012

Yielded an  18-27 record.    His year-by-year record posted only one winning season.  4-7,4-8,3-7, 7-5.  Apparently Baldwin has some chops as an OC,  but the label "winner"  has eluded him.  What Baldwin-led teams DID do is play Stanford like a $5 banjo.
Amazing how he managed that,  but as Davey Crockett (or was it Fess Parker?) said  "It ain't braggin' if you really done it."

I confess - Redrum - 05-26-2012

I had to look up Baldwin's exact record.  What I did remember was how San Jose fans bemoaned his bolting after posting just one good season.  His departure after a 7-5 season ushered in the lamented Dr. Fitz Hill years which are viewed as a combination Great Depression and Dark Ages by long suffering SJSU fans.  All 27 of them.

Re: Ummmm. Baldwin's "consistent" winning at SJSU - CowboyIndian - 05-26-2012

(05-25-2012, 02:22 PM)Redrum link Wrote:  but as Davey Crockett (or was it Fess Parker?) said  "It ain't braggin' if you really done it."

I believe it was that noted backwoodsman, Walt Whitman...looking here a lot like one William Bonney.
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Re: SJS to announce new athletic director - washingtonismoney - 05-26-2012

Thought it was Dizzy Dean who came up with it.