The CardBoard
Very, Very Big Recruiting News - Printable Version

+- The CardBoard (https://thecardboard.org/board)
+-- Forum: C-House! (https://thecardboard.org/board/forum-4.html)
+--- Forum: The CardBoard (https://thecardboard.org/board/forum-5.html)
+--- Thread: Very, Very Big Recruiting News (/thread-3420.html)

Pages: 1 2

Very, Very Big Recruiting News - socalstanfan1 - 06-23-2012

Per various twitter accounts (including the reliable Andy Drukarev), 4-star LB Peter Kalambayi commits to Stanford.

Along with Randolph and Savaiinea, the LBs of 2013 (if we hold onto them all) could be the OL of 2012

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - OutsiderFan - 06-23-2012

Kalambayi was a guy I figured would choose the Farm.  My guess is he'll be slated to play inside with Savaiinaea.

If Shaw and co. can pull Anzalone and/or Sherit, it would be quite a LB haul this year.





Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - washingtonismoney - 06-23-2012

Requisite highlight tape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmRV21SKhEw

Ratings-wise, Rivals is  the highest, as he's their 11th best OLB and 80th best player overall. For Scout, he's the #5 ILB and the #99 player. ESPN has taken his page down, but I believe had him as the #299 player overall. 247 has him as a four-star and the #17 ILB; they don't rank him as an overall player.

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - OutsiderFan - 06-23-2012

After watching that video, let me amend my statement and say Kalambayi will be an OLB.  He really plays the edge and uses his hands really well. 

So maybe Stanford is done with LB recruiting for this class, thinking Noor Davis, Blake Martinez, Isaac Savaiinaea, Doug Randolph and Peter Kalambayi are enough LBs over two classes

Now THAT is an offer list - Redrum - 06-23-2012

Big 10:Michigan ,Ohio State , Penn State, Purdue

Big 12:Oklahoma

Pac-12: Oregon  , California

SEC:Florida ,Tennessee, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt, Arkansas

ACC:Duke, Clemson, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia, Va. Tech, Wake Forest, NC St. 

Big East: Boise St., Louisville











Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - yvonne - 06-23-2012

Clearly just a scrub that Texas didn't want, though.

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - socalstanfan1 - 06-23-2012

(06-23-2012, 06:37 PM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:If Shaw and co. can pull Anzalone and/or Sherit, it would be quite a LB haul this year.

Latest rumors swirling around Anzalone is that he is down to three schools, and we are not one of them.  IIRC he wanted to enroll early, so maybe that was a hang up. 

We were recruiting Sherit as a TE, though nearly everyone else is looking at him at DE.  I'm sure if we ended up with both Hunter Henry and Sherit, the coaches might think about him on D, if he can earn the PT.  It says something about the state of the team that players with the talent of Kalambayi, Sherit, and Saviianea might realistically red shirt their first year because we have so much depth at their positions.  Would the two LBs really be able to crack the rotation, either at inside or outside, with Thomas, Skov, Vaughters and Murphy starting, and with K. Anderson, Lancaster, and Tarpley backing up?  Leuders showed improvement last season, and Hemschoot was one of the hot players in the Spring.

Also: one of the big questions when Shaw took over from Harbaugh was what would happen to recruiting.  Would Shaw, with his more reserved style, be able to bring in the same quality of recruits that Harbaugh managed to pull in with his near-manic passion?  About a year and half into the process, I would say that has been answered.  Harbaugh may have been the perfect guy to get the program out of the doldrums and to a place of national prominence; and Shaw may be the perfect guy to keep it there.

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - Hank 91 - 06-23-2012

(06-23-2012, 11:00 PM)socalstanfan1 link Wrote:Harbaugh may have been the perfect guy to get the program out of the doldrums and to a place of national prominence; and Shaw may be the perfect guy to keep it there.

Exactly right.

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - StannyBoy - 06-24-2012

Kalambayi wants to play OLB. Sherit isn't an an OLb. DE or maybe a TE and Anzalone was never big on Stanford so no surprise.

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - OutsiderFan - 06-24-2012

(06-23-2012, 11:58 PM)Hank 91 link Wrote:Harbaugh may have been the perfect guy to get the program out of the doldrums and to a place of national prominence; and Shaw may be the perfect guy to keep it there.

David Shaw has the attitude needed to stay on top in the dog-eat-dog world of big time college football.  He now can walk into any living room or H.S. coach's office in the world and say "no program can match our combination of football and academic excellence," then point to the 977 APR, two consecutive Top 5 finishes, three consecutive Voldemort finalists, three first round NFL picks, and a recent Top 5 recruiting class to prove the point.  No rival coaches can any longer say "Stanford won't win, so don't go there if you want to win."  No rival coaches can say "it's too hard and you won't make it there," because Stanford leads the Pac-12 in APR.  No rivals can say "you can't make it to the NFL at Stanford."

The only thing Stanford can't offer is a raucous, 100,000 seat stadium, and it can't even promise a raucous, sold out 60,000.  But, if that is really what you desire more than all the other things Stanford offers, you probably aren't really a fit for Stanford anyway.

In other words, there isn't a program in the country that can offer the academic and football package as Stanford does.  That differentiation from the pack has to give Shaw and co. a ton of confidence that I am quite certain they project on the recruiting trail.
So I have no doubt Shaw will continue recruiting well.

The only question I have about Shaw is his aggressiveness and ability to take risks to get rewards in games.  When you have Andrew Luck, you don't have to take too many risks.  But when you don't, you may need to do some fake punts and field goals.  You may need to go for it on 4th and 5 from the 35 rather than settle for a 52 yd FG attempt.  You may need to do a few onside kicks to gain an extra possession to beat Oregon.

But, if Shaw can get the team to execute at a high level, and maintain an excellent performance standard, he may fall into the Bill Walsh school of thought that taking extra risks and doing gimmicky things to try to win is totally unnecessary.  His team may perform well enough that they really aren't necessary.  And maybe, he won't do an onside kick, but his team will recover Chip Kelly's next time!








Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - needle - 06-24-2012

We may be able to judge Shaw's ability to get highly-recruited players to sign, but that's not the same as a coach's overall skill in recruiting.

Harbaugh and staff (which, of course, included Shaw) did very, very well in identifying guys who had all-conference/NFL potential but weren't quite so highly ranked by the recruiting services. We'll have to wait and see how Shaw and staff fare with talent evaluation.



Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - oman - 06-24-2012

I'm pretty sure they can still say "They can't win without Andrew Luck."  I think it's a terrifically dumb thing to say but I think it will likely change to "They didn't win without Andrew Luck" if we lose to So Cal, Oregon and ND.

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - washingtonismoney - 06-24-2012

It's hard to answer this hypothetical without knowing the circumstances behind it, but I suspect the media/prospects/etc. will assess an 8-4/9-3 type season as a success, particularly if we play the big-time teams on the schedule close.

That might not convince the haters, but as the internetese puts it, "haters gonna hate." They aren't worth worrying over.

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - RickyRicardo - 06-24-2012

Does anyone have film
From this weeks camp?

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - teejers1 - 06-25-2012

Two consecutive Top 5 finishes?  Really?

I believe you are channeling what SHOULD have happened had the coach given Stanford the best chance to win in the Fiesta Bowl (and not put everything onto a true frosh kicker who, by some accounts, looked like he was having a personal hygiene accident on the sidelines before being asked to kick the game-winner).  And if that had happend, then you could have added "back-to-back BCS wins" to Shaw's recruiting pitch.  >:(  >:(  >:(

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - CowboyIndian - 06-25-2012

(06-25-2012, 05:27 PM)teejers1 link Wrote:Two consecutive Top 5 finishes?  Really?

I believe you are channeling what SHOULD have happened had the coach given Stanford the best chance to win in the Fiesta Bowl (and not put everything onto a true frosh kicker who, by some accounts, looked like he was having a personal hygiene accident on the sidelines before being asked to kick the game-winner).  And if that had happend, then you could have added "back-to-back BCS wins" to Shaw's recruiting pitch.  >:(  >:(  >:(

Jesus H. Christ! Let it go, son!

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - washingtonismoney - 06-25-2012

(06-25-2012, 07:13 PM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:Jesus H. Christ! Let it go, son!

So now I guess we know why athletes think God cares about sports?

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - teejers1 - 06-27-2012

The Cardinal haven't even played another football game, so it's hard to "let go" of the most recent memory I have of Stanford football (but that will change).  And besides, I only think about it when people try and say how great the Fiesta Bowl was (or untruthfully state that Stanford finished ranked in the Top 5 in back-to-back seasons, which necessarily assumes a W in the Fiesta Bowl).

Earning a trip to the Fiesta was great;
the weekend in Scottsdale was great;
the Fiesta Bowl itself - and more particularly the last minute - was massively disappointing. 
 

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - oman - 06-27-2012

It was disappointing, but it was also great.

Given that we are closing in on the end of Euro 2012, it was like a great soccer game where we blew it in the penalty kick stage.  Great season, great game.

[Image: umadron.gif]
Ronaldo, pondering Shaw's decision not to let Luck throw into the end zone during the Fiesta Bowl....

Re: Very, Very Big Recruiting News - washingtonismoney - 06-27-2012

Not letting Ronaldo kick being the equivalent of not letting Luck go for it?

Actually, I think Ronaldo not attempting a kick was the bigger blunder.