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Sunday's Open Scrimmage - Hank 91 - 08-19-2012

For those not lucky to be there, Dave Lombardi is streaming play-by-play via Twitter. Follow the feed here:

https://twitter.com/davidmlombardi

Great stuff.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - Hank 91 - 08-19-2012

It certainly seems like Nottingham outperformed Nunes, for what it's worth.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - BobK - 08-19-2012

Physically it's Nottingham in my mind but more than that to being a QB. 

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - ebarws6 - 08-19-2012

Was really impressed by all of the young speedsters today. Wright, Sanders, and Young all looked like big playmakers. On defense, Alex Carter looked like he had the makings of an elite back, excited to see him develop.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - Hank 91 - 08-19-2012

Drukarev's first report on the scrimmage, and it's free!
http://stanford.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1398606

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - FarmBoy - 08-20-2012

For those fretting over the reported uneven performance of the Stanford offense and the solid, but no overwhelming, play from our QB's,  take solace in a report from Garry Paskwietz that the U.SC scrimmage was pretty ugly.

Quote:At that point the majority of the starters re-entered, and Barkley immediately hit Marqise Lee for a quick first down. Redd added a couple runs for another first down. Barkley hit Robert Woods for 17 yards and it looked like the offense might be picking up some steam, but then a Barkley pass was tipped at the line, which George Uko intercepted.

On his next drive, Barkley tried to hit Curtis McNeal out of the backfield, but Scott Starr was right there for the interception.

Whether you have the Voldemort front runner or a QB battle, the defense is almost always ahead of the offense at this point in the cycle.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - Spiny_Norman - 08-20-2012

Whether Nottingham or Nunes, it may be appropriate to remember Andrew Luck's first game as a redshirt frosh starter vs. WSU in 2009.  Luck was working behind an experienced line with a 1000 yard RB behind him (Toby) and a budding star WR (Owusu) to throw to.  Luck's stat line:  11-for-23 for 193 yards and one touchdown.  Stanford rushed the ball 42 times that day.

Set your expectations accordingly.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - washingtonismoney - 08-20-2012

Luck was armed and operational by game 2 against Wake Forest. 23/34 for 276 yards, 2 TDs 1 INT. It was apparent to me immediately, at least, that we had a good one on our hands. Of course the magnitude of that became clear by the end of the year, but still.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - OutsiderFan - 08-20-2012

To me the biggest news about the scrimmage was the fact Alex Carter started, Terrence Brown made every tackle, and Stanford seems to have four very capable CBs.  I'm still not convinced the Free Safety position isn't that strong, but having solid CBs, with a strong pass rush will mitigate that position's weakness as much as possible.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - washingtonismoney - 08-20-2012

Fowkes's recap touts the cornerbacks, saying "This might be the best cornerback group Stanford has seen in years"

http://www.examiner.com/article/stanford-opens-practice-for-open-house

As regards the safeties...I'm hopeful that we'll be fine with the starters, but the depth worries me quite a bit.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - washingtonismoney - 08-20-2012

Was Luck not great in the second half? I suppose so, but he was so good in the first. At any rate, I spread the blame around for that game to encompass Harbaugh's playcalling, a BS clipping call, the defense, and so on.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - slide - 08-20-2012

(08-20-2012, 02:38 PM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:To me the biggest news about the scrimmage was the fact Alex Carter started, Terrence Brown made every tackle, and Stanford seems to have four very capable CBs.  I'm still not convinced the Free Safety position isn't that strong, but having solid CBs, with a strong pass rush will mitigate that position's weakness as much as possible.

Carter and Lyons were the #2 CBs with Brown and Browning as the #1s.  per another report Amanam and Harris were the nickel CBs.  Pippens is running at #5 CB.

for Stanford, this is a very deep group.



Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - 81alum - 08-20-2012

I agree that it took Luck a season to develop his full potential.  In 2009 he was a very efficient passer behind the running of Toby, but his completion rate was still just 56.2%  I remember thinking that he was very good, but even by the end of that season it was hard to say that he would become one of the best college quarterbacks of all time.  His stats for that year were nothing better than what half a dozen other great Stanford quarterbacks had achieved.

Next season he was passing 70.7% and was up to a whopping 170.2 efficiency rating.  Then we knew he was special.

So even if one of our young quarterbacks were as talented as Luck, we can expect at least some inconsistency and growing pains.  And my guess is that this is  optimistic. 

I would say that a 2009-like season is a good goal under the circumstances.  It may be achievable since our defense will be better even if our offense is not quite as good.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - FarmBoy - 08-21-2012

For me, it was the Oregon game in 2009 that made me realize Luck was special. Yes, that game was the Toby show, but without Luck's play making, we wouldn't have beaten the Ducks. Chip Kelly said as much after the game.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - washingtonismoney - 08-21-2012

(08-20-2012, 10:53 PM)81alum link Wrote:I agree that it took Luck a season to develop his full potential.  In 2009 he was a very efficient passer behind the running of Toby, but his completion rate was still just 56.2%  I remember thinking that he was very good, but even by the end of that season it was hard to say that he would become one of the best college quarterbacks of all time. 
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I would say that a 2009-like season is a good goal under the circumstances.  It may be achievable since our defense will be better even if our offense is not quite as good.

Luck's completion rate was highly deceptive--it was because Harbaugh had Luck throw many deep bombs to take advantage of defenses stacking the box against him. Luck's running ability substituted largely for the short and medium passing game. Nevertheless, Luck had a yards per attempt of 8.9, which topped the Pac-10, and was a truer indication of his ability.

Luck's freshman numbers stacked up against anyone's his first year. By anyone, I do mean anyone. It was pretty clear to me by the end of the year that he was a special quarterback.

Anyway, if we get a year equivalent to Luck 2009 from our quarterback, 10 wins would be an easy goal for us. with outside chances at BCS and even national championship. I don't expect anyone that good.

Re: Sunday's Open Scrimmage - oman - 08-21-2012

If our secondary gets it together we can do it all.  We need our quarterback(s) to be solid to be in position to win, but we need the secondary to be really good for us to have a shot at a memorable season.