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EDSBS giveth... - dabigv13 - 09-17-2012

and it continues to giveth...but not if you're at work!!

First, Stanford features prominently in Prevail and Ride's MSPaint recap of the weekend in CFB. This is extremely NSFW, unless your work is ok with a Stanford tree with MSPAINT testicles on Lane Kiffin's head.

http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2012/09/ms-shamepaint-cfb-week-3.html

Second, EDSBS has a link to an LSUFreek GIF of David Shaw daggering Lane Kiffin, while the Stanford tree wordlessly watches on. For those unaware, Daggering is a Jamaican dancehall dance craze. It's easier if you look it up. Marginally NSFW.
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http://goo.gl/6lilN
**/edit** wow that is really annoying. Can we just get rid of the replacements for commonly URL'd things like U.S.C and C.A.L. etc? Seriously?

And finally, this linked article from Bruce Feldman. Favorite recap of the game, mainly for this quote from the best Stanford student:
Quote:One young girl in a red Stanford sweatshirt -- she couldn't have been more than 18 -- rushed up to Lane Kiffin and just started screaming, "[Bleep] you, Lane Kiffin! [Bleep] you, you [bleepin'] loser!"
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http://goo.gl/FMrf9
**/edit2**Wow, didn't realize this URL got cardboarded as well....yeah getting to be obnoxious

And just for good measure, also from EDSBS, a youtube clip of that fateful final drive. Awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5GFuvRIF7g

Re: EDSBS giveth... - Hank 91 - 09-17-2012

I'm sorry, but what language was that post written in? Can I download the proper compiler someplace?

Re: EDSBS giveth... - estephan500 - 09-17-2012

he just said "there are balls at this URL, and balls at this one, and this one."

actually I am deeply appreciative for that video of the last SC drive...

Re: EDSBS giveth... - dabigv13 - 09-17-2012

Sorry, on call and didn't really pay too much attention to clarity with that post. Heavy acronym usage and references to relatively obscure Jamaican dance fads, mixed with my own post-post editorializing, not exactly crystalline. Also I've been on a bit of a Pynchon binge and I'm afraid it's rubbing off on me.

But yeah, estephan pretty much summed it up. Balls. Crudely drawn balls.

Re: EDSBS giveth... - fullmetal - 09-18-2012

My take on the last drive (comments welcome)--

First play:
First and ten, U$C Right tackle #77 Kevin Graf blows it completely, whiffing a block as Stanford #42 Alex Debniak lines up outside of him and jukes past him inside to get to Draco.  Wow.  Sure, Debniak is lined up covering the tight end, and maybe the tight end was supposed to block him, but both tight end and split end (WR) release downfield immediately.  Malfoy is taken down by Debniak, but the pass is complete to Telfer for a gain of 1 as the Stanford secondary comes in immediately and tackles.

There was just a lot of space between the RG and RT in the SC line.  Stanford #90, DE Josh Mauro, is lined up over the RG and moves to his right, which caused the RG to move with him, which created that space.  Debniak takes two steps towards Graf, freezing Graf, and then moves laterally while out of Graf's arms' reach.  Barkley was under center and made the throw falling backward, which was good since it would have been a safety otherwise.  Never had a chance, as he was backpedaling the whole play.  I feel like Graf thought the TE was going to block Debniak.


Second play:
Second and nine, Barkley in the shotgun, one back and tight end to his left, two receivers wide left, one wide right.  Freshman U$C receiver #15 Nelson Agholor from the right runs a ~16-yd crossing route and catches the ball right just outside the right hash mark (beating Terrence Brown in man), but #29 Ed Reynolds is there to lay a hit that separates the ball from Nelson, who is 6'1" 185 lbs.  Reynolds, a junior, is 6'2" 207 lbs and running in at an angle to meet Nelson.  Pop.  Oh also, Debniak lines up with a hand in the dirt in the same place covering the TE, who makes momentary contact with Debniak before releasing.  Graf picks up Debniak as he backpedals, and they move past Barkley before Debniak ducks under Graf to the right and lays hands on Barkley just enough to knock him sideways a bit.  The pressure is there Matt.  You can sense it through the Force, can't you?

Ed Reynolds is the man here.


Third play:
Third and nine, five wide, three left and two right, with Draco under center.  Stanford has five men on the defensive line (it's AJ Tarpley lined up over the center, ha).  Skov is lined up over the right tackle behind the line, while Debniak is on the line but standing up, over to the right tackle's right (at that 4-technique spot that apparently he owns this drive).  Curtis McNeal is lined up in the slot to the right, and way off to the right is Robert Woods.  At the snap, Debniak drops back into coverage, while Skov abuses the right tackle, again moving into space to the tackle's left.  The rest of the offensive line has shifted way left to deal with the three rushers on the line and a fourth blitzer from the defensive backfield (yeah, Stanford rushed five).  Skov was held by our friend Graf and did not reach Barkley (I think he could have sacked him!), but he sure reminded Barkley that the ball needed to be gone, pronto.

Debniak drops back into coverage, and McNeal runs right at him before veering a bit right downfield.  Debniak stays home in his shallow zone and doesn't bite as Terrence Brown picks up coverage on McNeal (well, I think he would have if the ball had gone to McNeal).  Woods, from outside, drives an underneath shallow slant route and catches the ball just left of the right hashmark, but Debniak is there to drag him down.  How shallow was the route?  $C gains five yards on the play when they needed nine.  Well, this is four-down territory anyway.  Good assignment football.  No way Terrence Brown, who was playing with a 5-yd cushion, could have covered that himself, but Debniak was there to cover the underneath routes.


Fourth play:
Fourth and four, Barkley under center, two wide left and one wide right, TE to the right, and one in the backfield.  Stanford rushes five again.  Agholor, the far left receiver, takes a five-yard out route, forcing CB Barry Browning to stay with him.  The inside left receiver runs outside #15 Amanam and then drifts toward the sideline to make that one-foot-inbounds catch.  Sophomore safety #8 Jordan Richards was lined up 18 yards from the LOS on that side and backpedaled to start the play, which meant Amanam was left in one-on-one coverage for the intermediate out route.  Great play by Marqise Lee.  Whichever Stanford outside rusher who picked up the left tackle absolutely abused the left tackle and nearly got to Barkley in time before the LT just fell on him.  First down, $C.


Fifth play:
First and ten, Barkley under center at the left hash, one wide left, a slot receiver right, wideout on the right, and Silas Redd offset to the left in the backfield.  Stanford shows four men not named Skov on the line and rushes a slightly different set of four that does include Skov, who was lined up 3-4 yards back from the LOS just about covering the tight end.  But there was another down lineman to Skov's right--the tight end's left (the other 4-tech spot).  Both the down lineman and Skov rush.  The tight end releases past Skov (always a bad idea), looking like a hot route, but Silas Redd also wheels out left in a hot route.  The left tackle backpedals and picks up the yet-unidentified Stanford down lineman, leaving Skov an interstate-wide path to Barkley.  Just like before, the other Stanford pass rushers move the other way, which helps create that open lane.  Barkley backpedals the whole way for his life and throws to Redd, but the pass is behind Redd for an incomplete.  Skov does not knock down Barkley, for which Skov will curse Crom's name momentarily.



Re: EDSBS giveth... - fullmetal - 09-18-2012

Sixth play:
Second and ten, Barkley in the gun, twins split left, one receiver split right, TE to the right, and Redd to Barkley's left.  Agholor is the inside left receiver and runs that same ~15-yard out route with the outer left receiver running that decoy shallow out.  Whereas Amanam was beat by Agholor to the sideline, Chase Thomas mysteriously releases Agholor five yards deep and camps the middle before realizing the ball is going over his head.  Ed Reynolds was 15 yds deep but didn't get to Agholor in time to cover him.  Reynolds drags Agholor down as he's going out of bounds, but Reynolds ends up doing so from behind Agholor because Agholor was moving so quickly and maybe Reynolds didn't have the best angle.  Commentators call it a gain of 20.


Seventh play:
First down and ten--Barkley under center, a TE to the left and one back.  Oh, and there receivers somewhere, but it doesn't matter because with 1:16 left to play in the game and only one timeout, Lane Kiffin calls a run play to Curtis McNeal who's dropped 2.5 yards behind the LOS.  This is a disastrous play--by the time McNeal secures the ball, you know, as he's running downhill--there are FOUR Stanford rushers in the backfield, and only one of those guys is being blocked.  Yeah, three Stanford rushers got through the line just like that.  I think the right guard got juked a bit, but the reason the $C OL was largely ineffective was that three of Stanford's rushers lined up outside of the weakside tackle (the inside-most of whom still got past the guard).  Yeah, what's up unbalanced defensive line.  The lone blocked rusher met the left tackle and still found his way to McNeal eventually.  Those four guys were Mauro, Thomas, Gardner, and Amanam.  Not who you want partying two yards into your offensive backfield.  The clock keeps ticking.


Eighth play:
Second and ten.  Josh Mauro abuses Cyrus Hobbi and puts the hobbit on the ground.  Mauro lines up over the right guard and heads straight for Hobbi at the snap.  Hobbi's feet can't back up quickly enough and he just rolls straight back, holding onto Mauro and bringing them both down.  Barkley is backing up to avoid this trainwreck, but Mauro doesn't stay still once he hits the ground.  Straight out of a sci-fi horror movie, Barkley finishes his dropback only to see Mauro on all fours lunging at his feet--and successfully grabbing Barkley's left leg.  Barkley throws the ball away over the middle as Mauro convinces Barkley to take a seat.  Hobbi gets flagged for holding but the penalty is declined.  Big effort play from Mauro to take his man out and then get to Barkley.

Ninth play:
Third and twelve.  But wait, the refs back the ball up--I guess maybe Shaw changed his mind about declining the penalty?  Whatever.  Second and 22.  Barkley under center, one back, and twins left and right both split from the line (about a man's distance).  Both outside receivers run shallow out routes, and both inside receivers go deep.  Stanford rushes five--two guys on islands to either side, and a group of three in the middle.  Trent Murphy is the originally the farthest outside (just outside the right tackle), but he sweeps inside behind Tarpley and Mauro, who are getting ridiculous push on three $C OL.  How ridiculous was this push?  Well, Curtis McNeal was in for blocking purposes, but the two-on-three matchup had pushed right past McNeal heading into the backfield, so as Murphy swept off to his right, McNeal had stepped up to block, only to find that the man he was supposed to block had just blown right past him.  He sticks his arm out to slow Murphy, but it's not very effective.  Because Murphy is sweeping in behind five guys shoving each other, Barkley never really sees Murphy coming.  And Murphy only needed to take about three more steps to reach Barkley once he saw him.  On top of that, Amanam, who was lined up far off the right tackle, came flying through a second after Murphy wrapped up Barkley.  Sacktown.  Timeout, U$C.

Matt Barkley could have dumped off to one of the shallow out routes, but I think his attention was focused deep trying to read the safety(ies).  He had to bet on his line giving him time, and that didn't work out.  When you're facing second and 22 with less than 2 min to play and down 7 pts, you probably swing for the fences when you can.  The (de)-fence got to Matt first.


Tenth play:
Third and 28 with 43 seconds to play.  False start from the U$C left tackle, who gets jumpy as a Stanford linebacker runs in front of the center to show blitz.  Commentators mention the noise contributing to the nerves of the sophomore LT.  Third and 33.  Barkley in the gun with a tight end to the left, and nothing else will matter.  Four man rush--two guys lined up over both guards, and two lined up outside of both edges of the line (the TE to the left and the RT to the right).  At the snap, the TE runs straight ahead, and Chase Thomas cuts in.  Our friend, the left tackle, hesitates momentarily and is beaten by Thomas around to Barkley, who had the misfortune of not seeing both his tackles being beaten by the Stanford edge rush.  Curtis McNeal, the offset back, stepped up into the pocket where no rushers were.  In fact, he was releasing out of the pocket just as Barkley hit the ground.  Way to be aware?

One wonders about the wisdom of sitting in the shotgun when two edge rushers are lined up, uncovered, motors revving.


Eleventh, and final play of the drive:
Fourth and 40.  Stanford rushes three against the OL plus a TE.  No one gets close to Barkley.  Everyone else is playing prevent defense like it's 2006 in what looks like a  3-4-3-1.  The ball sails over Woods' head past the sideline, uncatchable and incomplete.  That's the game.

defensive line questions, observations... - ChicagoCard - 09-18-2012

So Mauro has moved a little ahead of Henry Anderson, or more that it was primarily a lineup geared toward pass rushing? Looks like we've seen the defensive line go as deep as H. Anderson, Mauro, Parry, Gardner and Stephens (no significance of my order here). Has Hopkins played, or Shittu? Trent Murphy seems the classic hybrid outside linebacker / defensive lineman. Good thing Debniak has emerged as a speedier OLB type.

I get that it's all in fun - Redrum - 09-18-2012

But that could easily have been us with Tommy Trojan draping his big ones on our head.  The Shaw/Kiffin motion thingee wasn't all that clever.

In general I loved the Feldman piece.  But even on first reading his account of the the young girl scream f*** you (multiple times) at Lane Kiffin...well, it made me wonder.  Was Feldman actually there on the field, on the USC side, to witness that in person?  Maybe he's working on his next book:  The Fall of Troy and deliberately got field credentialed so he could see close up just what went on along the Trojan sideline.  Maybe.  Maybe he stormed the field along with all the other kids.  Maybe the young girl was his daughter, who, IIRC, is a Stanford freshman this year.  Maybe. 

Or, maybe I can go ponder the fine moral distinctions between me jumping up in my den and screaming "F*** you,  Kiffin!" during the game and a young girl screaming it in Kiffin's face.  If it actually happened.

Re: EDSBS giveth... - FarmBoy - 09-18-2012

Quote:Was Feldman actually there on the field, on the the University of South Central side, to witness that in person?

Perhaps he got the quote from Michael Weinreb, from Grantland, who apparently was on the sideline during the game.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8391106/lane-kiffin-usc-was-supposed-challenge-national-title-season-ran-stanford-again

My favorite quotes from the article:

Quote:When the Cardinal required a touchdown with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter, they turned to an onomatopoeic tight end named Zach Ertz ("Rhymes with Hertz," according to the pronunciation guide I was given in the press box, which felt kind of like a veiled O.J. joke, given the circumstances.)

Weinrub also states definitively that Stanford owns U.SC

Oh, I would NEVER scream obsceneties at Kiffin - Redrum - 09-18-2012

...so obviously I'm referring to the scene described by Feldman

NICE JOB, Fullmetal !! - Redrum - 09-18-2012

Who knew crew guys were so analytic, so disciplined in exposition...yet, somehow lyrical?

Thanks for taking the time.  When can we expect the full game version?

Re: EDSBS giveth... - fullmetal - 09-18-2012

:) Bah, I pounded that out at midnight...which quickly turned into 3AM.  Film study takes a long time for the uninitiated (and with low-res video--hard to see players' numbers).  I can write better given sleep and more caffeine, I swear.

But it was fun.  And time-consuming.  And not something I could easily do for an entire game.  But if this was to happen for an entire game, we might be able to answer ChicagoOutsider's question about where our pass-rushers sit on the depth chart.

What Derek Mason does with his front seven is not rocket science, imho, but it WORKS because U$C for some reason just doesn't get it (maybe the line protection adjustments weren't made correctly--paging Khaled Holmes on line 1).  I have to believe that after McNeal gets creamed by a party of four in his own backfield that all resistance has been beaten out of the OL.  Ben Gardner, who beats the right guard inside, makes initial contact and is the hero of the play.  McNeal might have broken upfield if not for that--we had one guy covering an A-gap, it seems, and two LBs in the middle of the field in coverage.

I hope the AD keeps Derek Mason happy.