The CardBoard
More Important to ND Football than Michigan - Printable Version

+- The CardBoard (https://thecardboard.org/board)
+-- Forum: C-House! (https://thecardboard.org/board/forum-4.html)
+--- Forum: The CardBoard (https://thecardboard.org/board/forum-5.html)
+--- Thread: More Important to ND Football than Michigan (/thread-3895.html)


More Important to ND Football than Michigan - Farm93 - 09-25-2012

Well, well, well.

We probably knew this was coming, but ND has officially ditched Michigan.  ND has to make room for those ACC opponents, and Michigan was always suspected to be on the list to ditch.

Notre Dame's AD clearly values Stanford though.

"Swarbrick said then that he hoped the football scheduling agreement could begin in the 2014 season, and he stressed that Navy, Stanford and USC were the rivals he felt were most important for the Irish to keep on an annual basis."

Wow!  Navy is an easy win for Notre Dame every year, and they almost always play in South Bend.  So that annual contest's value is obvious even discounting the tradition.  SC is very important to ND, sure.  And in that group is a home and home series with Stanford.  Huh?

Have to say, I do not put the Notre Dame rivalry in Stanford's top 3.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8423552/notre-dame-fighting-irish-opts-series-michigan-wolverines

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - pauloalto - 09-25-2012

By scheduling both Southern California and Stanford they will be sure to play in recruit-rich California every year.

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - CowboyIndian - 09-25-2012

(09-25-2012, 11:32 AM)anmalanman link Wrote:By scheduling both Southern California and Stanford they will be sure to play in recruit-rich California every year.

And....if history is a guide for this action...they expect to win 8 out of every 10 of their games against us. Foolhardy decision on their part!

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - fullmetal - 09-25-2012

So we get NBC coverage for a game and a shot to take down an overrated/overranked opponent every year?  Yes, please!

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - jayasena - 09-25-2012

Well, we are their "aspirational peer" :P

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - yvonne - 09-25-2012

I don't know whether Denny Green's posting a trophy on a media guide is an indication of what the current team thinks or feels any more than what John Brodie's coach had relevance to what the 1970-71 Rose Bowl teams thought and felt.

Didn't Denny Green get a trophy for being the California champion?

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - FarmBoy - 09-25-2012

I would think the players love the chance to go into South Bend and get a win in front of all those (delusional) Irish fans. And the band sure has a good time with the school's place in society (or at least they had, before they were muzzled and neutered by the AD.) And like it or not, they fill seats in Stanford Stadium, even on Thanksgiving Saturday, which has got to be more fun than playing in front of a sparse crowd for a game against Oregon St.

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - Oasis - 09-25-2012

Jack Swarbrick went to Stanford Law School...maybe that has something to do with it.  I'm surprised ND would turn loose of Michigan.  That's got to be as lucrative a game as there is anywhere.

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - fullmetal - 09-25-2012

Maybe the negotiation with the Michigan AD didn't go so well?  Michigan probably needs to fatten up its out-of-conference schedule with another easier games these days--you know, the $EC way of football.

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - Gauss - 09-25-2012

(09-25-2012, 11:32 AM)anmalanman link Wrote:By scheduling both Southern California and Stanford they will be sure to play in recruit-rich California every year.

That's pretty much it. They kinda like playing with another prestigious University that every once in a while has a good football team.
But if Stanford were to relocate to Idaho (with all the prestige and tradition), ND would probably discover a rivalry with Kal!

(09-25-2012, 12:06 PM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:And....if history is a guide for this action...they expect to win 8 out of every 10 of their games against us. Foolhardy decision on their part!

Well, 6.5 games out of 10, to be precise.
We're doing better lately!

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - CowboyIndian - 09-25-2012

(09-25-2012, 02:54 PM)Gauss link Wrote:[quote author=CowboyIndian link=topic=6525.msg48369#msg48369 date=1348600007]
And....if history is a guide for this action...they expect to win 8 out of every 10 of their games against us. Foolhardy decision on their part!

Well, 6.5 games out of 10, to be precise.
We're doing better lately!
[/quote]

Not sure how you can be precise about THEIR expectations, but I'm listening.

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - jacketree - 09-25-2012

(09-25-2012, 09:58 AM)Farm93 link Wrote:Wow!  Navy is an easy win for Northern Indiana Parochial College every year, and they almost always play in South Bend.  So that annual contest's value is obvious even discounting the tradition. 

Navy is almost always an easy win for the Irish, but they play Navy every year for reasons that go beyond a W, or just 'tradition.'

The series is one of the oldest inter-sectional rivalries and  has endured for decades largely because of a promise made during World War II. ND’s enrollment was severely impacted by the war, to the point of threatening its continued viability. The Navy stepped in and made their campus a major training site, poured considerable resources into the school, and, some might argue, essentially saved it.  As a result, the Irish promised Navy there would always be a spot on their football schedule as long as Navy wanted it.

Navy in turn likes that spot on the Irish schedule despite winning only three times in the past 45 years. (Or something like that.)  It is able to tell recruits they will play ND all four years they are at the Academy – with two trips to N.otre Dame Stadium, and two other games played in a big stadium somewhere like Baltimore, New York, Washington, Florida, or Dublin.  I also read somewhere that the ND/Navy game funds the Academy's entire athletic budget for a year, but I'm not sure I really believe that.

Now if the Irish would just start up a Sprint team there could be serious payback ;D


Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - Hurlburt88 - 09-26-2012

Heard from HS friend of mine who works at ND that they value us because of their academic aspirations . . . love their name being associated with ours

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - Farm93 - 09-26-2012

(09-25-2012, 07:41 PM)jacketree link Wrote:[quote author=Farm93 link=topic=6525.msg48358#msg48358 date=1348592325]

Wow!  Navy is an easy win for Northern Indiana Parochial College every year, and they almost always play in South Bend.  So that annual contest's value is obvious even discounting the tradition. 

Navy is almost always an easy win for the Irish, but they play Navy every year for reasons that go beyond a W, or just 'tradition.'

The series is one of the oldest inter-sectional rivalries and  has endured for decades largely because of a promise made during World War II. ND’s enrollment was severely impacted by the war, to the point of threatening its continued viability. The Navy stepped in and made their campus a major training site, poured considerable resources into the school, and, some might argue, essentially saved it.  As a result, the Irish promised Navy there would always be a spot on their football schedule as long as Navy wanted it.

[/quote]

Yes, this was the tradition that I had in mind when I said tradition.  It seems like NBC spends 90 minutes before the Navy game going on and on  and on about this stuff.  Didn't really want to push through all of the Navy Notre Dame ties, but it seemed clear that if Notre Dame could have only one OOC game it would be Navy for any number of reasons. 

Re: More Important to ND Football than Michigan - fullmetal - 09-26-2012

That tidbit has given me some respect for ND...may they continue that tradition.