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Freshmen Report - Hank 91 - 10-25-2012

Here's a review of the freshmen, with input from Pep Hamilton. Good stuff.

http://stanford.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1427055

Freshmen Report - Hank 91 - 10-25-2012

Here's a review of the freshmen, with input from Pep Hamilton. Good stuff.

http://stanford.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1427055

Re: Freshmen Report - 76lsjumb - 10-25-2012

Thanks for posting.  A great antidote for having spent too much time pondering the "Nunes looks terrible" thread...  :)

Re: Freshmen Report - 76lsjumb - 10-25-2012

Thanks for posting.  A great antidote for having spent too much time pondering the "Nunes looks terrible" thread...  :)

Re: Freshmen Report - CowboyIndian - 10-25-2012

Didn't know Rector was hurt. He might have helped....or not.

Re: Freshmen Report - CowboyIndian - 10-25-2012

Didn't know Rector was hurt. He might have helped....or not.

Rector - Redrum - 10-26-2012

Didn't know Rector was hurt. He might have helped....or not.

Legs that work, eyes that focus, hands that hold onto things, a sense of where/how to go.  The four basics

Montgomery has the legs and eyes bit, it's the hands thing that has us worried
Terrell  has the legs, eyes and (particularly) hands but there is a QB eye problem (not looking for him)
Ertz has all four in spades.
Whitfield hasn't had enough reps to let us know how good he is.
Patterson: depends on which JRP shows up.  Sometimes its hands, sometime its knowing where to go, always flashing promise.

conclude that given how no other WRs have made their mark, they are undeveloped / deficient in one or another...so, yeah, it's a good bet that Rector could have helped.

On the others:  Several observers are seeing that Kyle Murphy is getting more and more playing time compared to Peat, who everyone thought was the sure-fire (near) starter as a freshman.  Speculation is that Murphy is less physically developed but has a real brain for the game and is ahead on technique and catching on to the college game.

Rector - Redrum - 10-26-2012

Didn't know Rector was hurt. He might have helped....or not.

Legs that work, eyes that focus, hands that hold onto things, a sense of where/how to go.  The four basics

Montgomery has the legs and eyes bit, it's the hands thing that has us worried
Terrell  has the legs, eyes and (particularly) hands but there is a QB eye problem (not looking for him)
Ertz has all four in spades.
Whitfield hasn't had enough reps to let us know how good he is.
Patterson: depends on which JRP shows up.  Sometimes its hands, sometime its knowing where to go, always flashing promise.

conclude that given how no other WRs have made their mark, they are undeveloped / deficient in one or another...so, yeah, it's a good bet that Rector could have helped.

On the others:  Several observers are seeing that Kyle Murphy is getting more and more playing time compared to Peat, who everyone thought was the sure-fire (near) starter as a freshman.  Speculation is that Murphy is less physically developed but has a real brain for the game and is ahead on technique and catching on to the college game.

Re: Freshmen Report - washingtonismoney - 10-26-2012

Disagree slightly, Redrum: Terrell's got good hands and fight, but he doesn't separate particularly well. Guess that'd go with "legs" in your rubric. He'd be fine as your third or fourth guy; instead, he's the closest thing to a reliable receiver. Good times!

Re: Freshmen Report - washingtonismoney - 10-26-2012

Disagree slightly, Redrum: Terrell's got good hands and fight, but he doesn't separate particularly well. Guess that'd go with "legs" in your rubric. He'd be fine as your third or fourth guy; instead, he's the closest thing to a reliable receiver. Good times!

Terrell - Redrum - 10-26-2012

It might be that he's not getting open,  but even some TV game commentators have dissected plays where Nunes just didn't see Terrell / or chose wrongly to whom he threw.  One was an INT.  So,  I don't know who is to blame.  Enough instances show up on replay that I have to believe he knows how to and sometimes can get open.  That seems to be all-star WR criteria for us this season.  ( blush from embarrassment )

Terrell - Redrum - 10-26-2012

It might be that he's not getting open,  but even some TV game commentators have dissected plays where Nunes just didn't see Terrell / or chose wrongly to whom he threw.  One was an INT.  So,  I don't know who is to blame.  Enough instances show up on replay that I have to believe he knows how to and sometimes can get open.  That seems to be all-star WR criteria for us this season.  ( blush from embarrassment )

Re: Freshmen Report - FarmBoy - 10-26-2012

But to be fair, the TV commentators have also pointed out times where Toilolo as matched up 1:1 with a DB on the outside and Nunes failed to recognize the mismatch. I believe this happened in the red zone against ND a couple of times. Nunes not seeing it doesn't mean it's not happening.

Re: Freshmen Report - FarmBoy - 10-26-2012

But to be fair, the TV commentators have also pointed out times where Toilolo as matched up 1:1 with a DB on the outside and Nunes failed to recognize the mismatch. I believe this happened in the red zone against ND a couple of times. Nunes not seeing it doesn't mean it's not happening.

Re: Freshmen Report - Renaissance Man - 10-26-2012

I think that Nunes' biggest deficiency is hitting receivers as they make their breaks--he stares them down, and waits to see if they actually get open before delivering the ball.  The result of this is that receivers never seem to have separation.  I think Terrell will be a good NFL player who is excellent on special teams and as a sure-handed slot receiver who will suddenly be open on third down much more often than he was in college.

Re: Freshmen Report - Renaissance Man - 10-26-2012

I think that Nunes' biggest deficiency is hitting receivers as they make their breaks--he stares them down, and waits to see if they actually get open before delivering the ball.  The result of this is that receivers never seem to have separation.  I think Terrell will be a good NFL player who is excellent on special teams and as a sure-handed slot receiver who will suddenly be open on third down much more often than he was in college.

Re: Freshmen Report - CowboyIndian - 10-26-2012

Also to be fair...sometimes the commentators have their heads wedged. I recall a few times where they (multiple games, multiple commentators) were criticizing Nunes for missing an open guy, particularly Toilolo, and there was no way in hell he was open. Nunes would have been lambasted for throwing to him.

Re: Freshmen Report - CowboyIndian - 10-26-2012

Also to be fair...sometimes the commentators have their heads wedged. I recall a few times where they (multiple games, multiple commentators) were criticizing Nunes for missing an open guy, particularly Toilolo, and there was no way in hell he was open. Nunes would have been lambasted for throwing to him.

Re: Freshmen Report - Card Fan in OR - 10-26-2012

Quote:Hamilton's take: "Barry is just a special, special player with the ball in his hands, but in order to step on the field for us here at Stanford, you need to be able to play without the ball. As soon as he learns protections and can get a better sense of all the responsibilities that we ask our running backs to manage, he's going to have an opportunity to be a special player for us."

In an article replete with praise, this seems like a pretty strong criticism of young Mr. Sanders. Hope Barry J. learns what he needs to learn. I look forward to watching him play.

Re: Freshmen Report - Card Fan in OR - 10-26-2012

Quote:Hamilton's take: "Barry is just a special, special player with the ball in his hands, but in order to step on the field for us here at Stanford, you need to be able to play without the ball. As soon as he learns protections and can get a better sense of all the responsibilities that we ask our running backs to manage, he's going to have an opportunity to be a special player for us."

In an article replete with praise, this seems like a pretty strong criticism of young Mr. Sanders. Hope Barry J. learns what he needs to learn. I look forward to watching him play.